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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:53 pm


Okay, I was talking to Beth about a week or so ago, and I asked her about my idea, and she liked it.
So, every Wednesday, I am going to post the lesson from the Tuesday night Bible lesson I have, so it can be discussed.
Also, if we have a lesson on Wednesday, I'll post that on Thursday.
So, we'll try it and see how it all works out.
So, the first post will be tomorrow.
Sound good?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:53 pm


Okay... Last night, we learned about the birth of Christ. Hopefully, most of you know this by now, but just in case you don't, I'll go over the basics, and some misconceptions.
Mary was going to have a baby from the Holy Spirit. When Joseph heard this, he planned to divorce her quietly to spare her from public disgrace. However, an angel appeared to him and told him that it was okay, it was going to be a Son of God, and Joseph was to name him Jesus, the Annointed One. For it was written in prophecy that the virgin would give birth, and he was to be called Immanuel. He was to come from Israel. The census was approaching, and Joseph was to return to Bethlehem, his home town. The inns were full at the time of His birth, so he was born in a stable, probably in a manger. Then, a guiding star appeared and Three Wise men went to it. Along the way they met Herod, who told them to tell him of the child's location. They showered the King of Kings with gifts of gold and spices. Having been warned not to see Herod again, they went another route back home. Herod then ordered every boy of a certain age to be killed, so an angel warned Mary and Joseph to take Jesus to Egypt, which they did.

Misconceptions:
The Wise Men met Jesus when he was two years old, not at birth.
The guiding star did not take them directly to Jesus.

So, there you have it.
Feel free to discuss or add details I may have forgotten.

We did not have a lesson today, so there will be nothing new tomorrow.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:37 pm


Wow. Another week, yet...
No one's here.
Hm.
No Youth Group until January, due to Christmas.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:01 am


How do you know He was two, and how do you know the star didn't lead directly to Christ? I believe, I may be wrong, it says the opposite in the Bible.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:19 am


I believe it says that the star led them to the area Christ was in, although I could very well be wrong. I also believe it says that it took the wise men two years to get to Him once they knew He was born, and I think they knew almost immediately.
I don't know the Bible verse off the top of my head, but I will look it up and post my findings here.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:29 am


Matthew 2: 16-17 says,
When Herod realized that he had been outwitted by the Magi, he was furious, and he gave orders to kill all the boys in Bethlehem and its vicinity who were two years old and under, in accordance with the time he had learned from the Magi.17Then what was said through the prophet Jeremiah was fulfilled.

This implies that Christ must have been two years old, or Herod will have killed many more children than would have been neccessary and would have wasted a lot of time.
It does say, however, that the star stopped directly over the spot where Christ was born.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:53 am


But it says AND UNDER, meaning that he was under 2. I believe it was within a few days that they met Jesus, but it really doesn't matter.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:56 am


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But it says AND UNDER, meaning that he was under 2. I believe it was within a few days that they met Jesus, but it really doesn't matter.

That's a good point. But, let's say he was three days old. That means Herod wasted time killing everyone who was between 362 days old and two years old. But it's a possibility he did that so people wouldn't know he was targeting Christ.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:41 pm


Yes, I agree with that, but we will never know, at least in this lifetime.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:31 pm


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Yes, I agree with that, but we will never know, at least in this lifetime.

Not in this world, no.
Well, that concludes that lesson, finally. Once I get Beth's "OK", I guess I'll start a new one, with something that I found to be very interesting, yet something very controversial.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:46 pm


Alright everyone, here's the scoop: Mint ice cream...
Okay, not really. The new topic will be up by Friday.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:32 pm


Oh, I'm curious.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:02 pm


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Oh, I'm curious.


That's what I was hoping for.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:00 pm


Now, here we are. Friday. Wow, this week went quickly.
Our topic? Capital punishment/death penalty.
We will quickly go over, in the next few posts, reasons for/against it.
I, personally, am for it, as I will go over when we get to that point.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:03 pm


Okay. First, we'll go with the "against."
The European Union bans capital punishment.
The United Methodist Church, along with other Methodist churches, also condemns capital punishment, saying that it cannot accept retribution or social vengeance as a reason for taking human life. The Church also holds that the death penalty falls unfairly and unequally upon marginalized persons including the poor, the uneducated, ethnic and religious minorities, and persons with mental and emotional illnesses The General Conference of the United Methodist Church calls for its bishops to uphold opposition to capital punishment and for governments to enact an immediate moratorium on carrying out the death penalty sentence.

Someone (couldn't find who,) said this:

If you support the death penalty [for murder] and only one single innocent person is killed, and killing an innocent person is murder, then you become murderers. So, you also deserve to be killed. This is the paradox of the death penalty, and you cannot avoid this paradox.

Another argument against it is that the wrong people can be killed.
Some have claimed that as many as 39 executions have been carried out in the U.S. in face of compelling evidence of innocence or serious doubt about guilt.

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