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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:08 am


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:39 am


Alsalam Alaykum ~

Ya Allah Ya Rahmanu Ya Raheem be with our muslim Brothers and Sisters at Ghaza and All the world, Ya Allah Protect them always, and May allah Bless their souls.. and they will get straight to Jennah [[ Inshallah ]] .. we must keep praying for them and our sisters/brothers at Ghaza and Palastine, We Shall Always have something called Faith & Hope .. and Allah shall be with us Always!!

> > i wish if u could become Proud & whole again =) !!

[[ Ya Allah Let This Ummah Rise Again ]]

Allahu-Akbar !!

Wussalam ~

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Sir_Zaki

PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:09 am


Shoulden't this be a General Discussions?

Look what happends....

With a country that don't get help from the other muslim country's...

And a land ruled on by satans...

May Allah help them! And give them peace, and give them what they require!
PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:37 pm


Zaki, are you saying that the Jews are "Satans?" I thought, or could have sworn, that Islam was peaceful and loving, and yet you call others Satans? My Grandparents are Jewish, and, not only that, but two of them survived concentration camps during the Holocaust! And you call them Satans? They are kind people!

Also, if Gaza would actually follow some of the peace treaties it has with Israel, then maybe this wouldn't have happened. You know, it may be really weird for you to know this, but when the Palestinians were firing rockets into Israel, did you expect the Israelis to sit back and let the rockets just blast their homes of the planet? No! If Gaza would acknowledge the fact that it isn't supposed to be firing rockets at Israel, then it wouldn't be bad.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:15 am


mazuac
Zaki, are you saying that the Jews are "Satans?" I thought, or could have sworn, that Islam was peaceful and loving, and yet you call others Satans? My Grandparents are Jewish, and, not only that, but two of them survived concentration camps during the Holocaust! And you call them Satans? They are kind people!

Also, if Gaza would actually follow some of the peace treaties it has with Israel, then maybe this wouldn't have happened. You know, it may be really weird for you to know this, but when the Palestinians were firing rockets into Israel, did you expect the Israelis to sit back and let the rockets just blast their homes of the planet? No! If Gaza would acknowledge the fact that it isn't supposed to be firing rockets at Israel, then it wouldn't be bad.


So you are saying that THROWING rockets at Israelis is worth the ATTACK and worth the over 300 killed Palestinians or even more!!?? and of course more than 1000 were injured, i mean come on!! if the rockets is a weapon that would BLAST their homes and destroy them, then i guess it would be the strongest weapon. and u still call it '' rockets '' attacks how many Israelis were killed from that??! did it get their whole family killed and made blood everywhere and cause everyone to just cry ?? [[ I DON'T THINK SO ]] Israelis have put the palestinians out of their houses and destroyed their properties while they were in it and with out their knowledge!! not even the WHOLE world could convince me that it is alright to do that because the poor palestinians deserves it!!! and if u want to enter and destroy a country which is NOT urs then YOU are the one who deserves every the destroy !!

[[ Ya Allah Be With The Palestinians ]]
PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:20 am


Yes, more people Palestinians have died from Israel than Israelis from Palestinians, but you must understand, Israel wouldn't be attacking Palestine if it wasn't threatening them. Look at WW2. The USA had been neutral until Pearl Harbor. We hadn't done anything wrong, and yet, over 2,000 people were killed from the Pearl Harbor attack. Israel, if I recall, controls most of the energy and food that goes into Palestine, and they haven't harmed them. Until, that is, Palestine acted up. Just like when the Japanese acted up with Pearl Harbor and brought us into WW2, Palestine has acted up and brought Israel into war with it.

Could you expect Israel, a country with a huge military, to just sit by and let Palestine continue to assault the country? Israel got pissed off at Palestine, and, as said before, started bombing it. If Palestine would speak peacefully instead of bombing them, situations such as these could be avoided.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:11 am


Alsalam Alaykum ~

Are you trying to convince me that Israel had ALL the rights to terror the Palestinians, kill them all and bomb them??
and i shall tell you that It is V. natural to act up on the PEOPLE who wants to rob ur land, rob ur house and ur properties D:PLUS, when did Palestinians ever act up on israel?? i don't remember any acts that killed over 10,000 people in this LONG war like Israel did to them!! Palestinians might've killed 100 Israelis or even less ~ so stop this stupid discussion that is based on something NOT REAL !! i mean come on.. Palestine wants peace and their whole country to be back ! coz it's their land and their country!!
In what right and In what reason Israel come out of no where and rob the Palestinians lands and properties?!? just because they don't have a country, doesn't mean they shall take the poor palestinian's!!


Wasalam.Peace Up ~
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:17 pm


You know what, I have thought about this from an unbiased opinion.

You are correct. Well, first of all, it would be better for peace, that is for sure.

And you are right, Palestine does not deserve all the crap that Israel gives them, and I have to say, I don't agree with the tactics that Israel has used to stop the Palestinian attacks on Israel.

However, Palestine is very anti-Semitic against Jews.

In fact, I am curious, why is there so much hate for the Jews? I understand that the fact that they are in a former Palestinian-Muslim occupied area, and are close to Jerusalem, but... why all the hate?

Dark_Sunshin, you are right. Palestine doesn't deserve such harsh tactics from the Israelis, I am sorry... I was saying my former posts from a biased view. Forgive me?


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:48 am


Alsalam Alaykum ~

hehe, sure thing wink ! glad u found out the real view about it ~

and to answer ur question i shall tell you this Is a very frequent question that have been asked by the Western World many times but unfortunately instead of seeking the right answer of the question they try to find answers from them selves.

To answer this question I'd like to ask you:
- What did you do to the Jews during the WW1 and WW2?
- What did we do when you killed and burned the Jews?

The answer of the first question is very easy. It was the Europeans who burned the Jews. The Jews were bad people in their eyes. They hade to take dirt job if they took any!

The answer of the second question is more easier! The Muslims took care of the Jews and welcomed them to our countries. They could live with us.

To show how grateful they were and to show how satisfied they were they threw us out from our country.

And that's where our history starts!

The Jews want to throw out the Palestinians that are there and take over our mosque and they do that by shooting little innocent children with their technical weapons that they get from the USA and many other countries who manufacture weapons.. among them Sweden and the disgusting Arabs in 26 arab countries sleep deeply, and the European mass medium show 0,05% of the truth and hide 99,95% of the rest.

The mass medium knows this very well but they don't want to show a bad image of Israel and the European mass medium feel ashamed to show that they do exactly the same thing as they did during WW2.

Who's paying the bill? The little innocent children....


Wasalam ~
PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:27 am


Thank you! :]

And I would like to clarify some stuff about World War Two. It wasn't the Europeans. It was the Germans. More specifically, the Nazis, and, even more specifically, Adolf Hitler.

They put Jews in death camps, gassed them, cooked them, tortured them... That is why many other nations helped them. And, if I remember correctly, Israel was given to the Jews by the United Nations as, almost an apology for what had occurred to them.

And yes, they want the Dome of the Rock, but they are not stupid, they wouldn't tear that mosque down to rebuild their temple. If they did that country would be blasted off the planet quicker than you could say "hudilgyfjlqwasDFVHLDSGFYWHJL."

And, I don't think that the Israelis target little children during wars...

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Three Mile Sprint

PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:00 am


Really the quicker the Hammas Terroists give up the better, thoug the Israli response might be a tad excessive, Hammas really shouldent have launched rockets the freaking second the ceasefire stopped.

It's like poking a tiger with a stick over, and over and over again, are you really suprised that eventually the Tiger is going to get fed up and rip your face off?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:15 am


Syrokal
Really the quicker the Hammas Terroists give up the better, thoug the Israli response might be a tad excessive, Hammas really shouldent have launched rockets the freaking second the ceasefire stopped.

It's like poking a tiger with a stick over, and over and over again, are you really suprised that eventually the Tiger is going to get fed up and rip your face off?
Mhm. As I said before, the Israeli tactics may be a bit excessive, but... they got mad at Palestine.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:22 am


Also, an interesting video I stumbled upon~

http://sderot.aish.com/SderotPetitions/MissilesFromGaza.php

I think it has a valid point~
PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:59 am


Syrokal
Really the quicker the Hammas Terroists give up the better, thoug the Israli response might be a tad excessive, Hammas really shouldent have launched rockets the freaking second the ceasefire stopped.

It's like poking a tiger with a stick over, and over and over again, are you really suprised that eventually the Tiger is going to get fed up and rip your face off?
But! Then LIONS(Muslims)! LOTSA LIONS! Whill beat up the tiger(Israel)!

And what does Hamas do? I though it was a name of some leader...

Sir_Zaki



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Feral Faun

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:28 am



Actually, I'm quite glad Israel acted this way. Why? Maybe because the normal Palestinians will finally realize that Hamas is the cause of misery for them. Hamas has violated all sorts of peace treaties, even with Egypt mediating. And Hamas is also quite content with killing its own people, children included, without any Israeli help.

The Israelies at least had the guts to WARN PEOPLE AHEAD of time that they were going to be bombing in a particular area. stare

extreme-Palestinians got their asses handed to them, and deserved it.

Though, it would have been better for Israel if they offered more medical aid...


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