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i hate to have a big argument if people decide they arn't gonna believe, but i am going to point out what i KNOW as canon for the Forgotten Realms setting.

1.) Myrkul is a god of Death that was slain long ago. he was replaced by cyric, who then lost that part of his portfolio to Kelemvor, a LN more honourable god of the Dead, who is more about gentle repose than killing. not to say that in this RP Myrkul can't come back. *shrugs.* in which case, sucks for you Kel.

2.) All Deities in FR get their power from worshippers. just to clear that up. that's the whole reaosn the god Myrkul died in the first place. the gods neglected their worshippers, too caught up with warring over the divine ranks and portfolio spheres, so Ao, who is like Jehova in FR, forced them all to walk the planet in their avatars, slayable and mortal. this was called the Time of Troubles, wen gods walked the face of Faerun. many gods died and many mortals ascended. it was a dramatic shift, taking 2 years before they learned their lesson. that's why their are so many wierdos on the Faerunian Pantheon.... >>

3.) Lucifer DOES exist, under a different name, Azazel, in FR. All the Demon Lords and Princes have realms in the Lower Planes of the FR Cosmology. And one of the Faerunian gods, Ilmater, is based entirely off of Jesus of Nazareth. he was a monk rather than a carpentr, but yes he was a mortal preacher who was martyred during the Time of Troubles and was Exalted by Ao, made a god, and given a seat in teh House of the Triad, a plane that is akin to Heaven, with an Angelic Court run by a Tribunal of Solars (a type of angel), and headed by three deities of Lawfull Good alignment: Tyr (god of Justice and Chivalry, not like that Germanic god he is modeled after, though in appearance he is the same, with missing hand and eye), Ilmater (god of healing, suffering, and martyrdom, like the latin-american version of Jesus), and Torm (god of Guardians, protectors, and honour).

4.) There is even an Uber Deity, Ao, who is like God in the Abrahamic Religions, except that he does not directly effect mortals and does not grant spells to worshippers. in this he is more modeled after a pagan concept of just the pregentor force of creation and balance. He created teh first 2 Goddesses, Selune (goddess of Light and the Moon), and Shar (goddess of Darkness and Forgetfullness). these two deities created the goddess Chauntea, the representation of the Planet Toril itself. Chauntea bgged for warmth to grow things on her body, and so Selune created the sun god, Lathander. Shar hated the light and tried to douse it. this cause a war between the two, which resulted in the creation of many terrible gods of death and war and disease and other harmfull concepts. the creation of the goddess of magic is especially interesting: Selune took her own magical essenc and hurled it at Shar. it tore through her and took her magical essence with it. it formed into the goddess Mystril, who was not only the goddess of magic, but WAS magic itself! she is the source of all magic on Faerun. she IS the Weave. though eons later Shar created what is known as the Shadow Weave by lacing her own dark energies into the negetive spaces between the Weave. where as Mystra and the Weave are on and the same and she would die if the Weave was destroyed, the Shadow Weave is only a creation that, while completely under Shar's control and jurisdiction, can be ended without killing her.

just thought that this info could be usefull to know... i'll put it in a thread maybe in the Dark Elf Lore forum?

... *double blink.* .. ok? i tend to do alot of crossrefferencing, even just in my spare time.

hmm... interesting, but something that pisses me off...

well, it is not that the shadow weave was part of the weave, but that it only could exist inthe negatove spaces of the weave, so, no weave, no place for shadow weave to exist.

this spell plague crap is rediculous though.... why are the novelists killing off gods like this!?

Mystra was one of the most integral gods of the entire forgotten realms settinG! gonk she WAS the magic in D&D in that setting! her role at least had survived through having the god-power drained, her reincanation, her being slaynand replaed... but now she gets killed? i swear i shall not read any more of these books! stressed they ar egoing to hell! all teh plotlines are crap!

*shrugs.* sounds plausible.. still i don't like the 4th edition stuff, or the direction the witers ar etaking teh stories... iii-_-

also, Mystra has the power to take away any of the Chosen's powers at her whim. she just chose not to take away the origional Chosen's powers for the most part, mostly because of some love of tradition.

Question: Does UnderGaia follow the same mythology as Forgotten Realms? Or are we simply using this as a reference should we wish to exploit the Gods in UnderGaia?

actually, the Oui people are not bringing in Greek or Norse, they are bringing in Jewish and Christian mythologies.

yeah, them, sorry.