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 Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:04 am
I feel that both of these abilities can be used well, if the user has practiced and knows their capabilities which they of course should forever strive to surpass. I myself am looking for ways of doing so. In past I have been able to practice these things with other people, which made it easier and more fun.
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:13 pm
they some times have telekinesis parties where a positive environment of friends can get together and try to move objects on a table.
at psi pog, they have several instructions for these ideas.
Telekinesis is based upon "Focus" or "attention" like the opposite of distraction, where as Chi is based more on the notion of prana.
The exact makeup of prana is still alien to me.
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:22 pm
That would be pretty cool to do, a party for telekinesis. Hey, we could always do a random number pick and have people try to guess what the number is.....or you can do that with colors..... I've done it with people before, and it worked, but of course I wasn't potentially thousands of miles away.
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:40 am
messing with thigs at extreme distances is possible, but nerve wracking. the most distance ive had with any psychic ability was around 5000 kilometers.
telling a middle aged woman that her son murdered her next door neighbor while the police were wandering around on the cherry colored wooden deck was not in my best interests...
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 6:58 pm
Ouch man, I'm sorry to hear about that. I guess sometimes we know what me don't want to know.
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 8:55 pm
it's why i stopped doing Readings for people a few years back. For a while, conducting PK experiments was my thing, but when I finally got around to a practical method of study, it didn't feel right, - like It used to, the obsession was no longer there.
my first PK experiments were with empty soda cans, then a while later, with candle flames.
A few years later dice seemed to be very efficient, whether it was my own dice rolls or others. Started playing with time for a while, which is kind of screwy, you begin with shaving your risk factor "pushing" the limits of your temporal space. it is not recommended to go this route, as most of the people who attempt it will fail or die.
the last decent experiments were with needles suspended on the surface of water. You would end up staring at a bowl of water with tiny reflective needle attempting to move it around. It was possible, but it was so slow that you had to literally move the needle to the other side of the bowl to avoid fooling yourself into thinking it never moved. eek
it has also been my experience that when a unit of measure is around, the ability fails almost entirely. Some sort of skeptics rule or something.
You should check out Xaikus' thread too. and work together biggrin
I want everyone to be happy here. heart
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:14 pm
Well, I guess what you threw out out there was just a hint as to possible outcomes of such practices.... maybe knowing too much. Fair warning Isuppose. But that doesn't stop me. smile
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:30 pm
i suppose this is where Kai wil begin his discussion of dimensional wormholes or whatever it was biggrin
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:32 pm
Sounds good. I'm eager to hear what he has to say. biggrin
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:40 am
I'm interested in discussing Ki (Chi or Chakara for those of other denominations) and its practicality. In all of my reading I have only encountered it briefly in a few of my books and it is always fairly vague as to its purpose, function, and manifestation. I need to go back and reread some and I'll post my thoughts after that.
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:32 am
I would be very interested and happy to read what you have to say. I myself don't know a whole lot about Chi, but I have learned some from Noire about it.
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:55 am
Koji Murasame I'm interested in discussing Ki (Chi or Chakara for those of other denominations) and its practicality. In all of my reading I have only encountered it briefly in a few of my books and it is always fairly vague as to its purpose, function, and manifestation. I need to go back and reread some and I'll post my thoughts after that. still waiting on those posted thoughts Koji ^_^
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:38 pm
I know at one time that you were going to teach me these subjects, Noire. smile
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:56 pm
We exist, and we teach, we can only teah what we know.. choose something, it may be taught ^_^
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:48 am
Firstly, I have to address the question, "What is ki?"
There are no absolute right answers to this question. Instead of giving the one true answer to this, below are several different opinions.
(a) Ki doesn't exist. Everything the ki model tries to explain can be explained with body mechanics, biophysics, and psychology. There is no need to postulate some mysterious force. Science can explain it.
(b) Ki exists absolutely. Ki is an energy, a living force, a spirit that can be used to increase your strength, throw people around, etc. Subjective experience shows that ki is real. It may either be a bio-kinetic phenomena science doesn't understand yet or the power of the mind in union with the body.
(c) Ki may or may not "really" exist. It is a useful model. The ki model allows you to visualize how to increase your strength, throw people around, etc. It doesn't matter if it exists or not. If someone invents a better model (one that is easier to visualize), then maybe we'll switch to it.
Of the styles that stress ki, some work on developing the flow of ki within their bodies. An example of this approach is Taijiquan. Other styles work on letting the ki of the universe flow through them.
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