|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
 Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:25 pm
I know that some people may not like my views because of religious beliefs, but this guild is about being open minded so i'll post anyway. My view of the creation of earth is different from the bible's. (by a landslide) I think that there is a scientific way that the earth was formed. I think that the earth was most likely created by dust and dirt in space that build up to form a rock that kept building and building and elements from the sun built up and reacted to make H 2 O and other elements found on earth. I also believe in evolution and i beleive in the creation of the 1st cells coming from the creation of proteins from a nuclear reaction. From what i've learned in my honors science class (im only in 7th grade btw) the 1st cells were formed by the sever conditions of earth at that time, and the evolution process could have happened to creat the 1st multi celled organisms and billions of years later the primeapes became humans and thousands of years later we became US. (my views are just views not facts. You don't ahve to believe me if you dont want to.)
|
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:00 am
That is, in fact, what most scientists believe. You've learned more than I did by seventh grade.
I go to a Catholic school, so I get lots of different views. Even my Physics teacher is religious, and he celebrated Darwin's birthday. Darwin, as you probably know, was the founder and a big researcher of the idea of evolution.
But there is the idea of Intelligent Design, which is common in my school. What I believe (since I'm non-religious) is that there simply doesn't have to be a divine creator for the world to exist.
And there are also Creationists in my school. I don't like those people as much. They don't believe that humans are related to monkeys... stare
And I do strongly believe in evolution. I think that if you believe in something like this, you should do a little research on other perspectives, so you can develop your ideas. (I know I don't do much research, but it can definitely help broaden your horizons).
You should learn about religion, too. Though angering, it is interesting.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:10 pm
I was never the totally religious type, and I'm WAAAYY more scientific than religious. I totally agree with your way of thinking: the earth was formed by clumping together of material, and all the elements came from the stars. I also believe in evolution, because it makes sense scientifically, you know what I'm talking about?
Also, Jerba brings up a good point. Religious people argue that everything was set just right so that life could exist on Earth, and that someone had to have created the universe and the world with just that in mind. However, who's to say that it just all didn't fall in place? However unlikely, it's very possible that all this happened by chance. Humans were a cosmic accident - so what?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:23 pm
Hm.
I consider myself a religious person, but not in a mainstream way. I do belong to a certain sect of religion but I kind of combine Methodist teachings with my own thoughts.
I certainly believe in evolution. I've taking physics, astronomy, biology, and a specific genetics course because I find evolution and human genetics fascinating. But I don't believe that anything I've learned has been contradictory to my beliefs of faith.
Perhaps in the beginning we were a cosmic accident. Maybe some greater power noticed the unique constitution of our planet and gave evolution a little spark to get it going. Regardless I do believe that there was something else involved other than just chromosomes and chance regarding the creation of Homo Sapiens Sapiens. While genetically we are very similar to several other creatures, most particularly several of the greater apes, we exhibit fundamental differences from all of them that genetics cannot explain. Why have we alone among all the creatures developed such a complex system of language, that varies from culture to culture? Why do we even have such distinct cultures in the first place? These varieties cannot be explained wholly through our minimal genetic and geographical distances, nor can the similarities that exist across virtually all cultures. We alone of all the creatures have a conscience, and a soul. Where does that come from? Nothing I have learned in the field of genetics, psychology, and neuroscience has provided a strictly scientific explanation for this phenomena. I don't believe there is one. And to me, that's where the greater power we call God comes it. He (or She depending on your preference) saw the potential in our evolutionary development for something more and gave us that extra spark that makes us all the unique individuals we are.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:13 pm
When I re translated 9 verses of the book of Genesis from the Hebrew, this is what I came up with.
The First-born of the Gods chose the schedule of the Firmament (sky) and the Field (earth). The field became desolate & empty; darkness covered the surface of the Abyss, and the breath of the Gods fell upon the surface of the water. The Gods commanded luminaries (stars) to come forth, and Stars came. The Gods beheld the order of the stars, which was pleasing: the Gods distinguished the difference between the Stars, and Darkness.
The Gods called out to the Stars to be hot , And speaking to the darkness twist (away from the light) , and dusk & dawn came to pass for first time. The Gods required an expanse within the water, and the Division between the waters came to pass. The Gods made the schedule of the expanse. The Division between water of the part below the expanse, and water above the expanse was properly set. The Gods called out to the expanse of the Firmament (sky or æther). Dusk & dawn came to pass for the second time. The Gods commanded water of the part below the firmament to twist together to a single place of dry ground and beheld that it was properly set.
You may make of it what you will. It gets weirder as you go, for example, Psalms 139:11-12 rendered the following:
Let it be said, nevertheless, Darkness (overwhelms) (and) twists Stars (luminaries) in Circular Motion.
Require, nevertheless, Darkness (breaks) (and) spirals Stars (in a) Circle
Command, verily, Darkness (Gape) (and) [folds back] (the) Stars Around [in a loop]
I wont even get into the creepiness of Job, except to say it was very similar to that new Nicholas Cage movie, minus the CGI aliens.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:00 pm
You know, religion is INCREDIBLY inconsistent with itself. Just... just look at the Bible. My God. (no pun intended)
But is that seriously what it says? Gods? No wonder my school gives us the edited version of the Bible, a.k.a. the "educational" version.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:08 pm
hahahahahahahahaha thats classic [[no offence to anyone who believes in "God"]] ******** the bible. >.< its a bunch of hypricitical balogna that dosent make sence.
Im not christian or athiest or hindu or any of that, Im Wiccan.
I love my religion, its very natural and was thought of in the late 1940's early 1950's. My religion is neopagan. Its claimed that it origionated from a pre-chrisitan british paganism and from "witch cult" described in historical christian writings.
We believe that there are two higher beings among the smalle spirits that share this world with us. There is the Green God [[also known as the horned god]] and the Light Goddess [[also known as the Tripple Goddess]] who are often represented in being part of a greater pantheistic Godhead and as manifesting themselves as various polytheistic deities.
There is dispute as to what actually constitutes Wicca. Initially, it referred to the lineage of one of Gardner's rivals, Charles Cardell, although in the 1960s it began to refer instead only to lineages stemming from Gardner and operating as initiatory Mystery Priesthoods (such as Gardnerian and Alexandrian Wicca). These are now collectively known in North America as British Traditional Wicca. A third usage, which has grown in popularity in recent years, and which was debatably the original usage, considers Wicca to include other forms of Goddess-oriented neopagan witchcraft that are similar to but independent of that lineage, including Cochrane's Craft, Dianic Wicca and the 1734 Tradition; these are sometimes collectively termed Eclectic Wicca.
Many people [[and this really pisses me off]] take this sign as a satin sign..>.<...the Pentacle. But really the pentacle is a sign that Wiccans use as a sign of their faith.
Although Wiccan views on theology vary, the vast majority of Wiccans venerate a Goddess and a God. These are variously understood through the frameworks of pantheism (as being dual aspects of a single godhead), duotheism (as being two polar opposites) or polytheism (being comprised of many lesser deities). In some pantheistic and duotheistic conceptions, deities from diverse cultures may be seen as aspects of the Goddess or God.
For most Wiccans, Wicca is a duotheistic religion worshipping both a God and a Goddess, who are seen as complementary polarities (akin to the Taoist philosophy of yin and yang), and "embodiments of a life-force manifest in nature." The God is sometimes symbolised as the Sun, and the Goddess as the Moon.
Traditionally the God is viewed as a Horned God, associated with nature, wilderness, sexuality and hunting. The Horned God is given various names according to the tradition, and these include Cernunnos, Pan, Atho and Karnayna. At other times the God is viewed as the Green Man, a traditional figure in art and architecture of Europe, or as a Sun God (particularly at the festival of Litha, or the summer solstice). Another depiction of the God is as the Oak King and the Holly King, one who rules over Spring and Summer, the other who rules over Autumn and Winter
The Goddess is usually portayed as a Triple Goddess with aspects of 'Maiden', 'Mother' and 'Crone', though she is also commonly depicted as a Moon Goddess. Some Wiccans see the Goddess as pre-eminent, since she contains and conceives all; the God is the spark of life and inspiration within her, simultaneously her lover and her child. This is reflected in the traditional structure of the coven. In some traditions, notably feminist Dianic Wicca, the Goddess is seen as complete unto herself, and the God is not worshipped at all, though this has been criticised by members of other traditions.According to Gerald Gardner, the gods of Wicca are prehistoric gods of the British Isles: a Horned God and a Great Mother goddess. Modern scholarship has cast doubt on this claim, however various different horned gods and mother goddesses were worshipped in the British Isles in the ancient and early mediaeval period.
The duotheism of the God and the Goddess is often extended into a kind of dual pantheism through the belief, in the words of Dion Fortune, that "all gods are one god, and all goddesses are one goddess" —that is, the gods and goddesses of all cultures are, respectively, aspects of one supernal god and goddess. For instance, a Wiccan may regard the Germanic Eostre, Hindu Kali, and Christian Virgin Mary each as manifestations of one supreme Goddess—and, likewise, the Celtic Cernunnos, the ancient Greek Dionysus and the Judeo-Christian Yahweh as aspects of a single, archetypal God.
A more polytheistic approach holds the various gods and goddesses to be separate and distinct entities in their own right. Pantheistic systems may conceive of deities not as literal personalities but as metaphorical archetypes or thoughtforms. While these conceptualizations of deity—duotheism, polytheism and pantheism—may seem radically different from each other, they need not be considered mutually exclusive: Some Wiccans may find it spiritually beneficial (or magically practical) to shift among one or another of these systems, depending upon time and circumstance.Wiccan writers Janet Farrar and Gavin Bone have postulated that Wicca is becoming more polytheistic as it matures, tending to embrace a more traditionally pagan worldview.
Gardner stated that a being higher than the God and the Goddess was recognised by the witches as the Prime Mover, but remains unknowable. Patricia Crowther has called this supreme godhead Dryghten, and Scott Cunningham called it "The One". This pantheistic or panentheistic view of God shares similarities with beliefs such as the Hindu Brahman.
Wicca is essentially an immanent religion, and for some Wiccans, this idea also involves elements of animism. A key belief in Wicca is that the Goddess and the God (or the goddesses and gods) are able to manifest in personal form, most importantly through the bodies of Priestesses and Priests via the rituals of Drawing down the Moon or Drawing down the Sun.
Beliefs in the afterlife vary among Wiccans, although reincarnation is a traditional Wiccan teaching. Raymond Buckland said that a soul reincarnates into the same species over many lives in order to learn and advance one's soul, but this belief is not universal. A popular saying amongst Wiccans is "once a witch, always a witch", indicating that Wiccans are the reincarnation of earlier witches.
Typically, Wiccans who believe in reincarnation believe that prior to this, the soul rests for a while in the Otherworld or Summerland, known in Gardner's writings as the "ectasy of the Goddess". Many Wiccans believe in the ability to contact the spirits of the dead who reside in the Otherworld through spirit mediums and ouija boards, particularly on the sabbat of Samhain, though some disagree with this practice, such as High Priest Alex Sanders, who stated "they are dead; leave them in peace". This belief was likely influenced by Spiritualism, which was very popular at the time, and which Gardner had had experience with.
Despite some belief in it, Wicca does not place an emphasis on the afterlife, focusing instead on the current one; as the historian Ronald Hutton remarked, "the instinctual position of most pagan witches, therefore, seems to be that if one makes the most of the present life, in all respects, then the next life is more or less certainly going to benefit from the process, and so one may as well concentrate on the present".
Wiccans believe in magic that can be manipulated through the form of witchcraft or sorcery. Some spell it as "magick", a term coined by occultist Aleister Crowley, though this spelling is more commonly associated with the religion of Thelema than Wicca. Wiccans cast spells during ritual practices inside a sacred circle, in an attempt to bring about real changes (which are further explained in the "Ritual practices" section). Common Wiccan spells include those used for healing, for love, for fertility, or to banish negative influences.
Many Wiccans agree with the definition of magic offered by ceremonial magicians. Aleister Crowley, for instance, declared that magic was "the science and art of causing change to occur in conformity with will", and MacGregor Mathers stated that it was "the science of the control of the secret forces of nature". Wiccans believe magic to be a law of nature, as yet misunderstood by contemporary science. Other Wiccans do not claim to know how magic works, merely believing that it does because they have seen it work for them.
Many early Wiccans, such as Alex Sanders and Doreen Valiente, referred to their own magic as "white magic", which contrasted with "black magic", which they associated with evil and Satanism. Some modern Wiccans however have stopped using this terminology, disagreeing that the colour black should have any associations with evil.
The scholars of religion, Rodney Stark and William Bainbridge, claimed, in 1985, that Wicca had "reacted to secularization by a headlong plunge back into magic" and that it was a reactionary religion which would soon die out. This view was heavily criticised in 1999 by the historian Ronald Hutton, who claimed that the evidence displayed the very opposite, that "a large number [of Wiccans] were in jobs at the cutting edge [of scientific culture], such as computer technology."
Wiccans believe in the five classical elements, although unlike in ancient Greece, they are seen as symbolic as opposed to literal. These five elements are invoked during many magical rituals, notably when consecrating a magic circle. The five elements are; Air, Fire, Water, Earth and Aether, or "Spirit", which unites the other four.
Various analogies have been devised to explain the concept of the five elements, for instance, the Wiccan Ann-Marie Gallagher used that of a tree. A tree is composed of Earth (with the soil and plant matter), Water (sap and moisture), Fire (through photosynthesis) and Air (the creation of oxygen from carbon dioxide). All these are united through Spirit.
Traditionally, each element has been associated with a cardinal point of the compass; Air with east, Fire with south, Water with west, Earth with north and the Spirit with centre. However, some Wiccans, such as Frederic Lamond, have claimed that the set cardinal points are only those applicable to the geography of southern England, where Wicca evolved, and that Wiccans should determine which directions best suit each element in their region, for instance, those living on the east coast of North America should invoke Water in the east and not the west because the colossal body of water, the Atlantic ocean, is to their east.
The five elements are symbolised by the five points of the pentagram, the most prominently used symbol of Wicca.
God I could go on and on about my religion, I love it so much.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 8:51 pm
Stiched Up Voodoo Doll hahahahahahahahaha thats classic [[no offence to anyone who believes in "God"]] ******** the bible. >.< its a bunch of hypricitical balogna that dosent make sence.
Im not christian or athiest or hindu or any of that, Im Wiccan.
I love my religion, its very natural and was thought of in the late 1940's early 1950's. My religion is neopagan. Its claimed that it origionated from a pre-chrisitan british paganism and from "witch cult" described in historical christian writings.
We believe that there are two higher beings among the smalle spirits that share this world with us. There is the Green God [[also known as the horned god]] and the Light Goddess [[also known as the Tripple Goddess]] who are often represented in being part of a greater pantheistic Godhead and as manifesting themselves as various polytheistic deities.
There is dispute as to what actually constitutes Wicca. Initially, it referred to the lineage of one of Gardner's rivals, Charles Cardell, although in the 1960s it began to refer instead only to lineages stemming from Gardner and operating as initiatory Mystery Priesthoods (such as Gardnerian and Alexandrian Wicca). These are now collectively known in North America as British Traditional Wicca. A third usage, which has grown in popularity in recent years, and which was debatably the original usage, considers Wicca to include other forms of Goddess-oriented neopagan witchcraft that are similar to but independent of that lineage, including Cochrane's Craft, Dianic Wicca and the 1734 Tradition; these are sometimes collectively termed Eclectic Wicca.
Many people [[and this really pisses me off]] take this sign as a satin sign..>.<...the Pentacle. But really the pentacle is a sign that Wiccans use as a sign of their faith.
Although Wiccan views on theology vary, the vast majority of Wiccans venerate a Goddess and a God. These are variously understood through the frameworks of pantheism (as being dual aspects of a single godhead), duotheism (as being two polar opposites) or polytheism (being comprised of many lesser deities). In some pantheistic and duotheistic conceptions, deities from diverse cultures may be seen as aspects of the Goddess or God.
For most Wiccans, Wicca is a duotheistic religion worshipping both a God and a Goddess, who are seen as complementary polarities (akin to the Taoist philosophy of yin and yang), and "embodiments of a life-force manifest in nature." The God is sometimes symbolised as the Sun, and the Goddess as the Moon.
Traditionally the God is viewed as a Horned God, associated with nature, wilderness, sexuality and hunting. The Horned God is given various names according to the tradition, and these include Cernunnos, Pan, Atho and Karnayna. At other times the God is viewed as the Green Man, a traditional figure in art and architecture of Europe, or as a Sun God (particularly at the festival of Litha, or the summer solstice). Another depiction of the God is as the Oak King and the Holly King, one who rules over Spring and Summer, the other who rules over Autumn and Winter
The Goddess is usually portayed as a Triple Goddess with aspects of 'Maiden', 'Mother' and 'Crone', though she is also commonly depicted as a Moon Goddess. Some Wiccans see the Goddess as pre-eminent, since she contains and conceives all; the God is the spark of life and inspiration within her, simultaneously her lover and her child. This is reflected in the traditional structure of the coven. In some traditions, notably feminist Dianic Wicca, the Goddess is seen as complete unto herself, and the God is not worshipped at all, though this has been criticised by members of other traditions.According to Gerald Gardner, the gods of Wicca are prehistoric gods of the British Isles: a Horned God and a Great Mother goddess. Modern scholarship has cast doubt on this claim, however various different horned gods and mother goddesses were worshipped in the British Isles in the ancient and early mediaeval period.
The duotheism of the God and the Goddess is often extended into a kind of dual pantheism through the belief, in the words of Dion Fortune, that "all gods are one god, and all goddesses are one goddess" —that is, the gods and goddesses of all cultures are, respectively, aspects of one supernal god and goddess. For instance, a Wiccan may regard the Germanic Eostre, Hindu Kali, and Christian Virgin Mary each as manifestations of one supreme Goddess—and, likewise, the Celtic Cernunnos, the ancient Greek Dionysus and the Judeo-Christian Yahweh as aspects of a single, archetypal God.
A more polytheistic approach holds the various gods and goddesses to be separate and distinct entities in their own right. Pantheistic systems may conceive of deities not as literal personalities but as metaphorical archetypes or thoughtforms. While these conceptualizations of deity—duotheism, polytheism and pantheism—may seem radically different from each other, they need not be considered mutually exclusive: Some Wiccans may find it spiritually beneficial (or magically practical) to shift among one or another of these systems, depending upon time and circumstance.Wiccan writers Janet Farrar and Gavin Bone have postulated that Wicca is becoming more polytheistic as it matures, tending to embrace a more traditionally pagan worldview.
Gardner stated that a being higher than the God and the Goddess was recognised by the witches as the Prime Mover, but remains unknowable. Patricia Crowther has called this supreme godhead Dryghten, and Scott Cunningham called it "The One". This pantheistic or panentheistic view of God shares similarities with beliefs such as the Hindu Brahman.
Wicca is essentially an immanent religion, and for some Wiccans, this idea also involves elements of animism. A key belief in Wicca is that the Goddess and the God (or the goddesses and gods) are able to manifest in personal form, most importantly through the bodies of Priestesses and Priests via the rituals of Drawing down the Moon or Drawing down the Sun.
Beliefs in the afterlife vary among Wiccans, although reincarnation is a traditional Wiccan teaching. Raymond Buckland said that a soul reincarnates into the same species over many lives in order to learn and advance one's soul, but this belief is not universal. A popular saying amongst Wiccans is "once a witch, always a witch", indicating that Wiccans are the reincarnation of earlier witches.
Typically, Wiccans who believe in reincarnation believe that prior to this, the soul rests for a while in the Otherworld or Summerland, known in Gardner's writings as the "ectasy of the Goddess". Many Wiccans believe in the ability to contact the spirits of the dead who reside in the Otherworld through spirit mediums and ouija boards, particularly on the sabbat of Samhain, though some disagree with this practice, such as High Priest Alex Sanders, who stated "they are dead; leave them in peace". This belief was likely influenced by Spiritualism, which was very popular at the time, and which Gardner had had experience with.
Despite some belief in it, Wicca does not place an emphasis on the afterlife, focusing instead on the current one; as the historian Ronald Hutton remarked, "the instinctual position of most pagan witches, therefore, seems to be that if one makes the most of the present life, in all respects, then the next life is more or less certainly going to benefit from the process, and so one may as well concentrate on the present".
Wiccans believe in magic that can be manipulated through the form of witchcraft or sorcery. Some spell it as "magick", a term coined by occultist Aleister Crowley, though this spelling is more commonly associated with the religion of Thelema than Wicca. Wiccans cast spells during ritual practices inside a sacred circle, in an attempt to bring about real changes (which are further explained in the "Ritual practices" section). Common Wiccan spells include those used for healing, for love, for fertility, or to banish negative influences.
Many Wiccans agree with the definition of magic offered by ceremonial magicians. Aleister Crowley, for instance, declared that magic was "the science and art of causing change to occur in conformity with will", and MacGregor Mathers stated that it was "the science of the control of the secret forces of nature". Wiccans believe magic to be a law of nature, as yet misunderstood by contemporary science. Other Wiccans do not claim to know how magic works, merely believing that it does because they have seen it work for them.
Many early Wiccans, such as Alex Sanders and Doreen Valiente, referred to their own magic as "white magic", which contrasted with "black magic", which they associated with evil and Satanism. Some modern Wiccans however have stopped using this terminology, disagreeing that the colour black should have any associations with evil.
The scholars of religion, Rodney Stark and William Bainbridge, claimed, in 1985, that Wicca had "reacted to secularization by a headlong plunge back into magic" and that it was a reactionary religion which would soon die out. This view was heavily criticised in 1999 by the historian Ronald Hutton, who claimed that the evidence displayed the very opposite, that "a large number [of Wiccans] were in jobs at the cutting edge [of scientific culture], such as computer technology."
Wiccans believe in the five classical elements, although unlike in ancient Greece, they are seen as symbolic as opposed to literal. These five elements are invoked during many magical rituals, notably when consecrating a magic circle. The five elements are; Air, Fire, Water, Earth and Aether, or "Spirit", which unites the other four.
Various analogies have been devised to explain the concept of the five elements, for instance, the Wiccan Ann-Marie Gallagher used that of a tree. A tree is composed of Earth (with the soil and plant matter), Water (sap and moisture), Fire (through photosynthesis) and Air (the creation of oxygen from carbon dioxide). All these are united through Spirit.
Traditionally, each element has been associated with a cardinal point of the compass; Air with east, Fire with south, Water with west, Earth with north and the Spirit with centre. However, some Wiccans, such as Frederic Lamond, have claimed that the set cardinal points are only those applicable to the geography of southern England, where Wicca evolved, and that Wiccans should determine which directions best suit each element in their region, for instance, those living on the east coast of North America should invoke Water in the east and not the west because the colossal body of water, the Atlantic ocean, is to their east.
The five elements are symbolised by the five points of the pentagram, the most prominently used symbol of Wicca.
God I could go on and on about my religion, I love it so much. On my wild search for a set religion i looked into Wicca and Peganism (sry if i misspelled) I thought the ideas seamed worthwhile for some research. I didn't think that was the greatest idea, but I totally agree with you about the Bible (no offence any1) After being lectured by all my christian friends about who the bible teaches you and all that good stuffs, I came to question who (or what) wrote the bible. I watch the SouthPark (naughty naughty me) episode about the Morman (again I CAN'T SPELL) family and they talked about who wrote their holy book. It pointed out that the writer, in fact, was lieing. That brings me to my point. THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY MAN. God himself didn't write the Bible. "the 12 diciples did. They (major companies/ the government) used the Bible to "teach morals" aka. mass produce the book for a profit. (churches buy Bibles in bulk man) I think the bible is just a money making hoax. burning_eyes
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 4:18 pm
The universe is actually much older than the Earth itself - the elements required to form the planets were already there long before the solar system even existed. The most widely accepted model for the formation of the solar system is the nebular hypothesis - the solar system existed first as a rotating nebula, which slowly collapsed thanks to gravity and formed not only the sun but planets as well, including Earth.
Furthermore, the sun doesn't carry out the synthesis of water (H2 + O2 -> 2H2O) - while it is quite exothermic, it doesn't provide the energy output that hydrogen fusion does.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 5:29 pm
Yeah, what I hear often on History Channel shows is that the Earth was formed as a kind of blob of all the different chemical components, and gradually the materials of less density rose to the surface as the heavier ones settled below to form the core and the mantle. In addition, it is believed that the moon was an asteroid that hit the Earth and became trapped in its orbit. It wrecked up the Earth's surface a bit, causing some of the formations to arise which would later house the first organisms. Anyway, that might not all be accurate in my translation.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 7:08 am
I am always amazed at the anti-Christianity sentiment shown by people who do not understand Christianity.
I find it disturbing to see someone criticize one belief system without understanding it while holding another belief system as superior. It is the same for the anti-science and anti-religion (or anti-Christianity) crowd.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 7:37 am
You're right, in the sense that people put restrictions on their beliefs due to misunderstandings of their own religion. Catholicism now accepts the theory of evolution, including the belief of humans evolving from other primates. The only reason I like Catholics, really, is that they're more open-minded than most other Christians.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 1:32 pm
Jerba2 You're right, in the sense that people put restrictions on their beliefs due to misunderstandings of their own religion. Catholicism now accepts the theory of evolution, including the belief of humans evolving from other primates. The only reason I like Catholics, really, is that they're more open-minded than most other Christians. Really, that is the exact opposite of the truth.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 6:04 pm
I believe that God created the earth and every thing in it. I think He created it using the elements around Him, like the dust from space etc. I believe that religion and the bible can be backed up by science.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 6:06 pm
Jerba You know, religion is INCREDIBLY inconsistent with itself. Just... just look at the Bible. My God. (no pun intended)
But is that seriously what it says? Gods? No wonder my school gives us the edited version of the Bible, a.k.a. the "educational" version. In my research and studies that I've done into the bible I've found that what the bible means when it refers to "Gods" in the text is it is referring to God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Reply
