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 Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:48 pm
Do you think that people should do them? And what do you guys think of them? Stupid, ok, what?
I think that they are fine if you know what your doing and your being sterile.
And also, what do you think is the best way to do a do-it-yourself piercing, if there is a good way at all?
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:28 am
I am against it myself, although I know people who do it themselves.
As far as I'm concerned too many things can happen, even major things, like paralyzing your face if you hit the wrong nerve in your ear (this is not a myth, it can happen). Most of the bad stuff is minor, granted, like being crooked, from not being able to see the spot well enough.
I suppose in the long run if a person is so inclined, they are going to do it no matter what.
It's all personal choice.
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:42 pm
Reden Marionette Do you think that people should do them? And what do you guys think of them? Stupid, ok, what? I think that they are fine if you know what your doing and your being sterile. And also, what do you think is the best way to do a do-it-yourself piercing, if there is a good way at all? it really depends on how it's done and what's pierced. my roommate pierced my lobes herself, she scrubbed her hands, soaked the needle (a professional piercing needle) in alcohol, wore gloves...in the end i don't think we could have been more sanitary about it in a piercing studio. i wouldn't suggest the inexperienced to do cartliage or anything like that at home, but if you do it safely you can get good work at home
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:14 pm
I would never do it. I'd rather just shell out the additional $200 or so that I will inevitably spend on the rest of my piercings.
As it is, enough can go wrong with a piercing. I wouldn't want to add more to that list by doing it myself. Even if you use gloves, rubbing alcohol, etc, you still do not have the necessary autoclave in your house to kill all bacteria on every instrument you use.
It's not as bad if you're doing ear lobes (good luck on getting them even though), but I think it's absolutely retarded to pierce your own tongue or nips or things like that. A friend of mine repierced her tongue and wanted to do my nipples, but I refused. Another friend gave himself a Prince Albert while drunk. Luckily they didn't screw anything up, but it was still incredibly stupid to do.
And I really don't know if I'd have the balls to pierce myself. I have a high pain tolerance, but I would probably work myself up so much over it that the pain would be worse. If you can manage to safely pierce yourself, good job. I just don't like to hear complaints when a DIY piercing infects or rejects.
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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:46 am
Being a piercing artist, I don't really like the idea of DIY piercings, even if I were to do them to myself. Its hard to align dual piercings (one on each side of your anatomy in corresponding locations) yourself, its hard to get them done straight, etc. If people want to do them themselves, then that's their own prerogative, but personally I don't condone them.
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:40 am
I think home done piercings are just a plane bad idea! No matter how clean or sterile u think your being, a house is just not equipt with the right conditions to actually BE that clean. Soaking a needle in rubbing alcohol or bleach does not actually kill all the germs of bactiria that grow on it, and what was that needle possibly used for b4 u? (gross concept huh?) Also, new jewelry is not sterile jewelry.......the only way to sterilize a piece of jewelry is to autoclave it. Also that whole symetrical non crooked stuff is a very valid point, you might get lucky, but in the long run there are people trained to do the job. I wouldnt let my buddy give me a root canal cause i wanted to be cheap and not go to the dentist. lol!!
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:22 pm
i blame it on age limitation.
i am not against it as long as people know what they are doing.
if there were no age limitations, people wouldnt even be doing it in the first place.
but that is just my opinion.
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:21 am
sweet broken tears i blame it on age limitation. i am not against it as long as people know what they are doing. if there were no age limitations, people wouldnt even be doing it in the first place. but that is just my opinion. I dont agree with that at all, there are plenty of people who are old enough, w/or without parental consent still mucking around in unsanitary conditions because they are cheap! And honestly the only reason I have an age restrictions is because there are just some things you should not be able to do at a young age, your body grows and changes, and so does your skin, and a nicely placed naval for instance on say a 13yr old, will look WAY off when she's done growing. And exotic piercings are a huge NO, for anyone under 18 for the simple fact that I'm a mother, and sometime I have to stand by my moral objection to something, and I see no reason for a "child" to have their nipples pierced. Its gross and it creaps me out that a parent would sign for that.
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:38 am
vayn glorious sweet broken tears i blame it on age limitation. i am not against it as long as people know what they are doing. if there were no age limitations, people wouldnt even be doing it in the first place. but that is just my opinion. I dont agree with that at all, there are plenty of people who are old enough, w/or without parental consent still mucking around in unsanitary conditions because they are cheap! And honestly the only reason I have an age restrictions is because there are just some things you should not be able to do at a young age, your body grows and changes, and so does your skin, and a nicely placed naval for instance on say a 13yr old, will look WAY off when she's done growing. And exotic piercings are a huge NO, for anyone under 18 for the simple fact that I'm a mother, and sometime I have to stand by my moral objection to something, and I see no reason for a "child" to have their nipples pierced. Its gross and it creaps me out that a parent would sign for that. I agree with you vayn glorious, it doesn't matter the age, I don't think people should take the chances.
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:10 am
vayn glorious I think home done piercings are just a plane bad idea! No matter how clean or sterile u think your being, a house is just not equipt with the right conditions to actually BE that clean. Soaking a needle in rubbing alcohol or bleach does not actually kill all the germs of bactiria that grow on it, and what was that needle possibly used for b4 u? (gross concept huh?) Also, new jewelry is not sterile jewelry.......the only way to sterilize a piece of jewelry is to autoclave it. Also that whole symetrical non crooked stuff is a very valid point, you might get lucky, but in the long run there are people trained to do the job. I wouldnt let my buddy give me a root canal cause i wanted to be cheap and not go to the dentist. lol!! Just about any place you get your jewelry from is NOT pre-cleaned. Cleaning it yourself is always recommended. As for what the needle was used for before you got to it, you're assuming that someone's using a sewing/drug needle? The majority of people I know that pierce at their home (piercing others, not themselves) use needles purified with EO Gas, not a safety pin laying on the floor. These needles are pre-packaged, pre-sterilized, and are one time use only. Anyone who re-uses these needles is asking for some serious problems. I do mobile piercings, and yes, there are some places that are downright filthy and disgusting, and I will advice the client that their home may not be the most fitting for what they are looking for, but there are others that are just as clean if not cleaner than the booths at piercing studios (mine included). With the alcohol/bleach statement, for one, you should never clean anything going into your body with bleach...that's asking for some crazy hospital visits. With alcohol, it will kill a large majority of the bacteria/viruses/frozen alien ghosts that Tom Cruise is scared of. Relying on alcohol alone to kill these things is not recommended (especially for needles [but then again you shouldn't be using needles you have to clean]).
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:09 am
DarkLordDiasnis vayn glorious I think home done piercings are just a plane bad idea! No matter how clean or sterile u think your being, a house is just not equipt with the right conditions to actually BE that clean. Soaking a needle in rubbing alcohol or bleach does not actually kill all the germs of bactiria that grow on it, and what was that needle possibly used for b4 u? (gross concept huh?) Also, new jewelry is not sterile jewelry.......the only way to sterilize a piece of jewelry is to autoclave it. Also that whole symetrical non crooked stuff is a very valid point, you might get lucky, but in the long run there are people trained to do the job. I wouldnt let my buddy give me a root canal cause i wanted to be cheap and not go to the dentist. lol!! Just about any place you get your jewelry from is NOT pre-cleaned. Cleaning it yourself is always recommended. As for what the needle was used for before you got to it, you're assuming that someone's using a sewing/drug needle? The majority of people I know that pierce at their home (piercing others, not themselves) use needles purified with EO Gas, not a safety pin laying on the floor. These needles are pre-packaged, pre-sterilized, and are one time use only. Anyone who re-uses these needles is asking for some serious problems. I do mobile piercings, and yes, there are some places that are downright filthy and disgusting, and I will advice the client that their home may not be the most fitting for what they are looking for, but there are others that are just as clean if not cleaner than the booths at piercing studios (mine included). With the alcohol/bleach statement, for one, you should never clean anything going into your body with bleach...that's asking for some crazy hospital visits. With alcohol, it will kill a large majority of the bacteria/viruses/frozen alien ghosts that Tom Cruise is scared of. Relying on alcohol alone to kill these things is not recommended (especially for needles [but then again you shouldn't be using needles you have to clean]). Umm i think in a round about way your agreeing with me.... since im saying the same thing you are in different words lol! The only way to clean new jewelry is to autoclave it. Yes bleach is not a recomended way to sterilize things going into your body. I do not use presterilzed needles in my studio, for the simple fact that i can not inspect the tips for damage. I buy loose, and autoclave, simple preference. And yes to a degree i totally admit that some houses are cleaner then some studios, but that is NOT the norm, its the exception. So basically....we are agreeing that the untrained should NOT be poking holes in each other but in SOME instances, trained professionals, that do mobile service are (which isnt legal in my state) are perfectly acceptable under the right client conditions, correct?
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:01 pm
vayn glorious DarkLordDiasnis vayn glorious I think home done piercings are just a plane bad idea! No matter how clean or sterile u think your being, a house is just not equipt with the right conditions to actually BE that clean. Soaking a needle in rubbing alcohol or bleach does not actually kill all the germs of bactiria that grow on it, and what was that needle possibly used for b4 u? (gross concept huh?) Also, new jewelry is not sterile jewelry.......the only way to sterilize a piece of jewelry is to autoclave it. Also that whole symetrical non crooked stuff is a very valid point, you might get lucky, but in the long run there are people trained to do the job. I wouldnt let my buddy give me a root canal cause i wanted to be cheap and not go to the dentist. lol!! Just about any place you get your jewelry from is NOT pre-cleaned. Cleaning it yourself is always recommended. As for what the needle was used for before you got to it, you're assuming that someone's using a sewing/drug needle? The majority of people I know that pierce at their home (piercing others, not themselves) use needles purified with EO Gas, not a safety pin laying on the floor. These needles are pre-packaged, pre-sterilized, and are one time use only. Anyone who re-uses these needles is asking for some serious problems. I do mobile piercings, and yes, there are some places that are downright filthy and disgusting, and I will advice the client that their home may not be the most fitting for what they are looking for, but there are others that are just as clean if not cleaner than the booths at piercing studios (mine included). With the alcohol/bleach statement, for one, you should never clean anything going into your body with bleach...that's asking for some crazy hospital visits. With alcohol, it will kill a large majority of the bacteria/viruses/frozen alien ghosts that Tom Cruise is scared of. Relying on alcohol alone to kill these things is not recommended (especially for needles [but then again you shouldn't be using needles you have to clean]). Umm i think in a round about way your agreeing with me.... since im saying the same thing you are in different words lol! The only way to clean new jewelry is to autoclave it. Yes bleach is not a recomended way to sterilize things going into your body. I do not use presterilzed needles in my studio, for the simple fact that i can not inspect the tips for damage. I buy loose, and autoclave, simple preference. And yes to a degree i totally admit that some houses are cleaner then some studios, but that is NOT the norm, its the exception. So basically....we are agreeing that the untrained should NOT be poking holes in each other but in SOME instances, trained professionals, that do mobile service are (which isnt legal in my state) are perfectly acceptable under the right client conditions, correct? Truth, to a point. There are some statements that I don't agree with, but as you said, they can be chalked up to simple preference in most cases. Personally I buy pre-sterilized needles and inspect them at the moment of piercing, as that cuts down on initial cost, and simply I prefer EO Gas over autoclaving, as I believe EO Gas (when done right) is more effective.
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:59 pm
biggrin perfect! and its nice to meet ya! the nice thing about our professions is we get to have choice, and unlike some places, no ones going to tell you your choice is WRONG! I hate that! As long as sanitary practices are followed, and the piercings are successful thats really all that counts in the long run.
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:48 am
Truth. I have my qualms with non-sterile needles, but that's completely a personal preference, as long as the client has no problem with them.
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:54 am
DarkLordDiasnis Being a piercing artist, I don't really like the idea of DIY piercings, even if I were to do them to myself. Its hard to align dual piercings (one on each side of your anatomy in corresponding locations) yourself, its hard to get them done straight, etc. If people want to do them themselves, then that's their own prerogative, but personally I don't condone them. I dont like DIY either and when someone says they've done it, i view them as a moron in my mind. One cant just go around piercing, if they dont know the placement of blood veins/nerve bundles they may end up making a fatal mistake.
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