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 Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:08 pm
cosmosco cosmosco Chogyal what do you know about the energy reality theory? I know enough to be aware of the fact that I haven't a clue what the energy reality theory is. At the instant I hit the 'submit' button I realized that I had typically been hasty in my response and should have searched for 'energy reality theory' before I responded. Having done so, my initial response is to the 'energy' of which we are constituted. Six months after commencing my research (in 1983) I sent an article to several physics faculties regarding the anisotropic nature of light but, typically, received no (official) response. (I was delighted to receive a phone call from Julius Sumner-Miller - at that time 'on campus' at the University of Sydney - warmly congratulating me on my ideas and seeking permission to take my paper back to the States.) In 1991 I received a phone call from the Head of the School of Mathematics at a local university (Professor Simon J Prokhovnik) inviting me to discuss my ideas. During our discussion he handed me a copy of his article (published in Foundations of Physics). Upon reading same I mentioned that a major part of his idea had been contained in my 1983 submission however I pointed out that because I had sent it to their physics department he probably hadn't seen it. He hung his head and quietly mumbled "I might have." As I was leaving his office he stated that he did not believe that we would be able to travel at the speed of light on the basis of his opinion that we would, at that velocity, change into a form of energy. When I pointed out that we already consist of quantum packages of energy thus that we might transmute into a higher state of energy he became nonplussed. I am grossly ignorant of the subject of quantum theory however I understand that it postulates that light is a wave that is spread throughout the universe until such time as somebody looks at it at which stage it collapses into particles. Some people are apparently of the opinion that this conversion takes place even when somebody thinks the word 'light'. Perhaps, having attained light-speed, we and our ship become 'a wave' that is similarly spread throughout the entire universe until such time as 'somebody' (i.e. a 'section' of that wave) thinks the word 'Andromeda' at which instant we and our ship transmute into particles at that location. I'm not suggesting that this might actually take place but am simply musing on it and as Einstein stated "Imagination is more important than knowledge." It was, when he was 14, Einstein's daydreams about what it would be like to travel through space on a beam of light that was the catalyst for his theory. I have always been puzzled by the conception that anything traveling at the speed of light will become light in of itself. Spiritually speaking, from my young limited knowledge which stands overshadowed aside your experience, light is the essence of all energy, meaning that our own conscious is "light", if that makes sense, once released from the entrapments of the human body. I must admit i am yet to research the theory as throughly as i wold like to, but in essence from my understanding, our bodies are the "lenses" if you will, through which we perceive the reality that surrounds us. This reality is merely some mix of radio frequency fields that are interpreted by our nervous system as reality. This has some vague connection the fact that solid matter is said to be made out of atoms, but atoms themselves are energy based, not solid based. Thinking of what you wrote about light becoming particles as it reaches the thought or eyes of the person that sees it, and i think that also relates to the whole human body as a lens thing. In Biology i saw a microscope picture of a ciliate, and at the risk of sounding stupid which is a risk we must sometime take in order to hang a question mark on the things we take for granted, i was stunned at the resemblance that the microscopic protozoan's organelles' bore to the aspect of a galaxy in a microscope picture. Here is a diagram of this more primitive life form. I tried to find a photograph that would better illustrate what i'm trying to show, but nonetheless, before i digress too much, i think that humans sometimes forget how small we are ourselves, in never even having seen our own galaxy from the outside, we may not even realize how small IT is; like if you have ever seen the end of Men in Black, when the alien lifeforms are playing with marbles and our galaxy is in the marble, ( a crude concept, yet graphically ideal to what i'm trying emphasize). We study reality constantly, but we can only see it thought a human perspective. Feedback? I patiently await your response.
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Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 11:14 pm
Chogyal I have always been puzzled by the conception that anything traveling at the speed of light will become light in of itself. Spiritually speaking, from my young limited knowledge which stands overshadowed aside your experience, light is the essence of all energy, meaning that our own conscious is "light", if that makes sense, once released from the entrapments of the human body. I must admit i am yet to research the theory as throughly as i wold like to, but in essence from my understanding, our bodies are the "lenses" if you will, through which we perceive the reality that surrounds us. This reality is merely some mix of radio frequency fields that are interpreted by our nervous system as reality. This has some vague connection the fact that solid matter is said to be made out of atoms, but atoms themselves are energy based, not solid based. Thinking of what you wrote about light becoming particles as it reaches the thought or eyes of the person that sees it, and i think that also relates to the whole human body as a lens thing. I think using the world 'light' to denote a basic essence of life has a quasi-religious connotation and whilst not an atheist I prefer to think in the terms of 'energy' thus that when we attain light-speed we might 'transmute' into a higher energy level. It is in my opinion essential that we should be allowed to release our consciousness from the 'entrapments' of restrictive extant education unfortunately this is an act that is forbidden (at the very least - frowned upon) by 'the system' as was the gaining of knowledge during the inquisition. My own postings in Gaia; science and technology have been subjected to ridicule by fanatical relativists who fraudulently attempt to maintain the status quo as did defenders of the faith and who have, in my opinion, effectively hindered scientific and technological progress in opposition to the interests of Gaia. "Science is generated by and devoted to free inquiry: the idea that any hypothesis, no matter how strange, deserves to be considered on its merits. The suppression of uncomfortable ideas may be common in religion and politics, but it is not the path to knowledge; it has no place in the endevor of science. We do not know in advance who will discover fundamental new insights.” (Carl Sagan, 91, Cosmos, Random House, 1980.) Einstein was one of the many notables (such as Beethoven, Mozart, Edison and Tesla) all of whom insisted that their ideas were not of their own volition but that they seemed to appear in their minds as did the original concept for his later theory when, at the age of 14, Einstein - looking at sunlight streaming through the branches of trees - daydreamed about what it would be like to travel through space on a beam of light. It is only by maintaining an inquiring mind that we are able to expand our knowledge. "There is one thing that is larger than the entire universe - an open mind." (unknown) "Knowledge is one-dimensional, the proper application of knowledge is multi-dimensional; only the extremely wise. and the exceptionally foolish, are not prepared to change." (Confucius) Chogyal In Biology i saw a microscope picture of a ciliate, and at the risk of sounding stupid which is a risk we must sometime take in order to hang a question mark on the things we take for granted, i was stunned at the resemblance that the microscopic protozoan's organelles' bore to the aspect of a galaxy in a microscope picture. Here is a diagram of this more primitive life form. I tried to find a photograph that would better illustrate what i'm trying to show, but nonetheless, before i digress too much, i think that humans sometimes forget how small we are ourselves, in never even having seen our own galaxy from the outside, we may not even realize how small IT is; like if you have ever seen the end of Men in Black, when the alien lifeforms are playing with marbles and our galaxy is in the marble, ( a crude concept, yet graphically ideal to what i'm trying emphasize). We study reality constantly, but we can only see it thought a human perspective. Many years ago I read a story about a person who travels out into space describing what he sees - the Earth getting smaller and smaller; the solar system only being visible in the form of a small point of light (the sun); stars appearing to merge; the galaxy becoming a spinning disc; local galaxies merging; groups of galaxies merging until he is moving away from the universe itself which becomes a glint on a ring on a finger of one of God's hands. Our method of studying reality is confounded by the special theory/quantum physics concept that observation (measurement, calculation) determines reality with no allowance for the Confucian concept of a proper application of knowledge.
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:36 pm
I think that we as walking masses of carbon must take baby-steps in how we understand our reality, unfortunately, because knowledge IS in fact power, the fewer people possess that knowledge, the more powerful those people become, like for example, for may years, Pythagorus' theorem was knowledge restricted to certain secret societies and masonic architectural guilds, which may be a reason why architectures across the Eurasian continent sometimes have distinct similarities.
Buddhists use the same concept for light and energy. According to the faith, light is energy, and vice-versa. I keep somewhat of a spiritual aspect on the world, because it allows me to get a jump on most things. Wether i am not ready, or not capable to tackle all the world mysteries on a scientific level, i simply find it easier to through spirituality in the mix. Not religion mind you, for mindless worship has never done anything for my conscious.
I like the quote you put down, and i believe it's true. in fact, i like to think of every person's conscious to be a universe in of its own.
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:21 am
ChogyalI,
We only take 'baby-steps' in our pursuit of reality due to the fact that our ability to learn has been restricted by those who seek to limit challenges to their power base - their elitist status - thus as Einstein pointed out we only use about 10% of our capabilities.
Your references to spiritual aspects are getting a bit deep for me however I read somewhere that 'mathematics' (or a similar word) was sanskrit for 'in search of God'.
When Einstein was 12 years old Max Talmey gave him several science popularization books and having read same Einstein stated that he "...soon reached the conviction that much of the stories in the Bible could not be true. The consequence was a positive fanatic orgy of free thinking coupled with the impression that youth is intentionally being deceived by the State through lies."
(31, Einstein for Beginners, Schwartz-McGuiness, Writers and Readers, 1979).
Although each person's conscious mind is a universe we are connected with each other, and with the cosmos, by a constant exchange of energy.
When the first set of traffic lights was installed in our small country town I bemused my children by, whilst approaching red lights, snapping my fingers at which instant they would (with 75% success) change to green. Several years later I was watching a film on drag racing where the US champion admitted to an advantage of being able to 'sense' the electronic 'message' being transmitted to switch the red lights off.
I am of the opinion that the billions of dollars allocated to physics research such as attempts to locate Einstein's 'gravity waves' should more suitably be applied to medical research particularly our cerebral potential.
I believe that 'the state' under intense pressure from physics' lobbyists is misleading today's youth in particular and populace in general.
Stephen Hawking concludes A Brief History of Time with the comment - "However, if we [physicists] do discover a complete theory, it should in time be understandable by everyone, not just a few scientists. Then we shall all, philosophers, scientists and just ordinary people, be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason - for then we would know the mind of God." (185, Bantam, 1990)
It is significant to note that he is of the opinion that 'just ordinary people' will only be allowed to take part in the discussion after 'they' establish the ground rules - their 'Bible' - however the possibility of them even listening to our ideas has as much possibility as it has now - none whatsoever.
In his book God and the New Physics Paul Davies tells us that in his opinion "...science offers a surer path to God than religion." (ix, Pelican, 1984)
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 9:14 pm
Following this, would it be too much of a stretch to say that religion and science can work together. After all, science finds out how things work and religion communicates to the people in simple language (sometimes). The two remain inseperable, but also cooperative. And I also support the belief that the human mind is capable of so much more. But the question is, how does one unlock the ability to utilize more of the brain? Not only a higher portion of it for a brief period, but to fully awaken the mind to be able to wield it to its fullest potential. What are your thoughts pertaining to this?
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:07 am
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