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Are Atoms Opaque?

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What do you think atoms are like?
  opaque and colorless
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  clear
  nothing
  I'm confused!
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Jerba2
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 11:55 am


I got thinking about this when I started to see diagrams of shiny atoms. I thought: atoms shouldn't have any color, because colors are caused by pigmentation, usually. But nothing smaller than an atom would be able to color an atom, and protons and neutrons logically shouldn't look different in color. But really, you can't see atoms, so how would you know?

Color is caused by the reflection of light. So if atoms don't reflect beams of light, then they should be colorless. Does this mean they're black? They can't be clear, really, because light waves can't pass through their matter.

And if you can say atoms are colorless, then what do they look like? How come we can see matter when all matter is made of colorless, or even clear, things?

Maybe light doesn't reflect off of atoms, but off of their magnetic fields.

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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:59 pm


i'm not sure i have any feedback to this.. i'm going to be pondering this for a long time. very damn good question!

impossible_infinity


Morberticus

PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:52 pm


Here's a question I've been musing over for a while... What would happen if you pointed a flashlight at a cold neutron star (with no proton surface)?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:08 pm


Morberticus
Here's a question I've been musing over for a while... What would happen if you pointed a flashlight at a cold neutron star (with no proton surface)?
Hmm... I don't know. I'd think it would appear black and absorb the light energy...

Then again, I'll have to learn more about neutron stars...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:13 pm


I think different atoms have different colors. Element are substances made up of one type of atom, and they have differing color. Iron is reddish, Silver is grey, Gold is yellow, Cobalt is blue... etc.

I guess some are colorless.. Oxygen, Hydrogen...

So both! biggrin
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:46 pm


MsKittyTail
I think different atoms have different colors. Element are substances made up of one type of atom, and they have differing color. Iron is reddish, Silver is grey, Gold is yellow, Cobalt is blue... etc.

I guess some are colorless.. Oxygen, Hydrogen...

So both! biggrin


Atoms themselves don't have color; the colors actually correspond to the energy levels that the electrons orbiting the atoms can have. Atoms bonded to other atoms end up being colors that don't seem to have any relation to the individual atoms, because the colors are tied to the energy levels which depend on the individual atoms but also depend on how the atoms are related chemically. For example, copper metal is, well, coppery in color, but copper oxide is green. Iron metal is silvery, and as you mentioned iron oxide is red.

Electrons have different energy levels they can be at, and when an electron jumps from a higher energy level to a lower one it lets off a photon that carries away the difference in energy. Since the electrons can only be at certain energy levels, there are only certain energies that the photons end up with. For photons, their energy determines what color they appear, and thus atoms appear certain colors because the light coming from them only comes in certain colors. The exact values of the energy levels, and thus the energies of the photons, changes when atoms bond to other atoms to form molecules, which is why rusts are different colors from the metals they came from.

Gases tend to be clear not because the atoms are clear but because the gas is too diffuse for us to see it. Water vapor is clear, and water is clear, but ice and snow definitely have some color to them. When you can "see" a gas, usually you are actually seeing small liquid drops, often water vapor.

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