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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 11:24 pm


There are a ton of myths and legends about different types of vampires around the world. If you have any you want to share, post it here.

To start: It's been a really long time since I read about this, so I don't remember which country it's from... but. There is this type of vampire that has some kind of long tube thing in it's mouth... I guess it's kind of like a mosquito... anyway, what it does is it sticks the tube-thing through the window of its victims house, and sucks the blood of whoever is sleeping in the exact middle of their bed.
After I read this I started sleeping on the very edge of my bed...
I'll try to post a more coherent and accurate description later... with more facts.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:03 am


Eiko Kyaruoru
It's been a really long time since I read about this, so I don't remember which country it's from... but. There is this type of vampire that has some kind of long tube thing in it's mouth... I guess it's kind of like a mosquito... anyway, what it does is it sticks the tube-thing through the window of its victims house, and sucks the blood of whoever is sleeping in the exact middle of their bed.


It sounds to me as if you're referring to the aswang, a type of vampire from the Philippines. It's difficult to describe, since its description differs from one island to the next. One type is a living person who can transform him or herself into a bird to do evil against his or her neighbors. Another type is capable of separating its upper body from its lower extremities, sprouting wings, and flying about the countryside. Yet another type is the corrupted soul of a dead person that takes the form of a reptilian creature resembling a European dragon. Each type has a long, hollow, pointed tongue through which it drinks blood or other bodily fluids and typically preys upon babies and pregnant women.


One of my personal favorite types of vampires is the jiāngshī (also spelled chiang shih), also known as hopping corpses and Chinese vampires by Westerners. Jiāngshī are reanimated corpses that hop around, killing living creatures to absorb their life energy (qì). They are said to be created when a person's lower soul (pò) fails to leave their body after the higher soul (hun) has ascended to Heaven. This tended to happen when a person suffered a particularly violent death, such as a suicide, hanging, drowning, or smothering. It could also happen when a person wasn't buried properly.

Jiāngshī are usually depicted with an outrageously long tongue and long fingernails. They are often said to be covered in green or white hair. This "hair" is actually grave mold.

People protect themselves from jiāngshī by using salt or garlic. Brooms are used to sweep the creature back to its resting spot, while running water, iron filings, glutinous rice, and red peas act as barriers. It has also been said that the urine from chaste virgins (typically prepubescent boys) can repel and even "corrosively burn" jiāngshī, much like holy water. The rationale was that virgin boys are chaste, therefore bearing "pure Yang energy" (males are associated with Yang whilst females with Ying), which has an offensive effect on jiāngshī (which are also associated with Ying). It is possible to evade the jiāngshī by holding your breath, as the jiāngshī cannot see as humans see and detects the presence of the living by scenting the trace of the higher soul on their breath. It is also conventional wisdom of feng shui in Chinese architecture that a threshold, a piece of wood approximately six inches high, be installed along the width of the door to prevent a jiāngshī from entering the household.

If part of the jiāngshī is removed, it will coninue to function apart from the rest of the body. To destroy a jiāngshī, you must first immobilize it, then bury it with the proper rituals or cremate it to free the person's lower soul and allow it to sink back into the earth.

It is said that you can control a jiāngshī by fastening a yellow paper inscribed in red ink or chicken blood with holy symbols to its forehead.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:39 am


Will anything here be posted about "real" vampires (intrinsically/per se), or will this discussion thread continue to revolve around myth and legend?
Just asking question
PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:18 pm


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Will anything here be posted about "real" vampires (intrinsically/per se), or will this discussion thread continue to revolve around myth and legend?
Just asking question


I'd appreciate it if our discussions revolved around lore and legend, since that's where the vampire originated and, as far as I'm concerned, where it will always belong. I give no credence to "real" vampires, i.e., people who think that they need to drink blood or absorb life force from other people in order to stay healthy. However, I am not the captain, a vice captain, or even a crew member, so there's nothing I can do to stop it, should the discussions happen to swing that way.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:14 pm


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Will anything here be posted about "real" vampires (intrinsically/per se), or will this discussion thread continue to revolve around myth and legend?
Just asking question


I'd appreciate it if our discussions revolved around lore and legend, since that's where the vampire originated and, as far as I'm concerned, where it will always belong. I give no credence to "real" vampires, i.e., people who think that they need to drink blood or absorb life force from other people in order to stay healthy. However, I am not the captain, a vice captain, or even a crew member, so there's nothing I can do to stop it, should the discussions happen to swing that way.


And that is where the term "debatable" shall fall.
I will not begin a debate with you since you come across to me as sounding extremely adamant about your thoughts and opinions. It strikes me as pointless.
However, I'd like to personally encourage you to keep an open mind. This is, after all, the paranormal and occult we are discussing. Legend and lore play rather trivial parts in the subject(s).
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:50 pm


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Will anything here be posted about "real" vampires (intrinsically/per se), or will this discussion thread continue to revolve around myth and legend?
Just asking question


I'd appreciate it if our discussions revolved around lore and legend, since that's where the vampire originated and, as far as I'm concerned, where it will always belong. I give no credence to "real" vampires, i.e., people who think that they need to drink blood or absorb life force from other people in order to stay healthy. However, I am not the captain, a vice captain, or even a crew member, so there's nothing I can do to stop it, should the discussions happen to swing that way.


And that is where the term "debatable" shall fall.
I will not begin a debate with you since you come across to me as sounding extremely adamant about your thoughts and opinions. It strikes me as pointless.
However, I'd like to personally encourage you to keep an open mind. This is, after all, the paranormal and occult we are discussing. Legend and lore play rather trivial parts in the subject(s).


I'm a bit of a paradox, as I'm fascinated by the paranormal and the occult, and yet I do not believe in anything I can't see, smell, hear, taste, touch, or measure.

That being said, I don't like discussing "real" vampires because there isn't enough substantial evidence to support their existence. However, if you wish to have such a discussion, then I will indulge you to the best of my abilities, so long as said discussion does not become too heated.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:37 pm


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Will anything here be posted about "real" vampires (intrinsically/per se), or will this discussion thread continue to revolve around myth and legend?
Just asking question


I'd appreciate it if our discussions revolved around lore and legend, since that's where the vampire originated and, as far as I'm concerned, where it will always belong. I give no credence to "real" vampires, i.e., people who think that they need to drink blood or absorb life force from other people in order to stay healthy. However, I am not the captain, a vice captain, or even a crew member, so there's nothing I can do to stop it, should the discussions happen to swing that way.


And that is where the term "debatable" shall fall.
I will not begin a debate with you since you come across to me as sounding extremely adamant about your thoughts and opinions. It strikes me as pointless.
However, I'd like to personally encourage you to keep an open mind. This is, after all, the paranormal and occult we are discussing. Legend and lore play rather trivial parts in the subject(s).


I'm a bit of a paradox, as I'm fascinated by the paranormal and the occult, and yet I do not believe in anything I can't see, smell, hear, taste, touch, or measure.

That being said, I don't like discussing "real" vampires because there isn't enough substantial evidence to support their existence. However, if you wish to have such a discussion, then I will indulge you to the best of my abilities, so long as said discussion does not become too heated.


Although there is more that I could add, I feel it would simply be immature to do so. I suppose that could just be the remainder of my teen youth mildly attempting to personify itself. sweatdrop So I will just let this lay. "Live and let live." neutral
PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:51 am


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Will anything here be posted about "real" vampires (intrinsically/per se), or will this discussion thread continue to revolve around myth and legend?
Just asking question


I'd appreciate it if our discussions revolved around lore and legend, since that's where the vampire originated and, as far as I'm concerned, where it will always belong. I give no credence to "real" vampires, i.e., people who think that they need to drink blood or absorb life force from other people in order to stay healthy. However, I am not the captain, a vice captain, or even a crew member, so there's nothing I can do to stop it, should the discussions happen to swing that way.


And that is where the term "debatable" shall fall.
I will not begin a debate with you since you come across to me as sounding extremely adamant about your thoughts and opinions. It strikes me as pointless.
However, I'd like to personally encourage you to keep an open mind. This is, after all, the paranormal and occult we are discussing. Legend and lore play rather trivial parts in the subject(s).


I'm a bit of a paradox, as I'm fascinated by the paranormal and the occult, and yet I do not believe in anything I can't see, smell, hear, taste, touch, or measure.

That being said, I don't like discussing "real" vampires because there isn't enough substantial evidence to support their existence. However, if you wish to have such a discussion, then I will indulge you to the best of my abilities, so long as said discussion does not become too heated.


Although there is more that I could add, I feel it would simply be immature to do so. I suppose that could just be the remainder of my teen youth mildly attempting to personify itself. sweatdrop So I will just let this lay. "Live and let live." neutral


If you'd like to add something, feel free. We need some sort of discussion in this guild.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:13 am


There are people who need blood transfusions to live. There is no need to ingest blood. Porphyria has been suggested as an explanation for the origin of vampire and werewolf legends, based upon certain perceived similarities between the condition and the folklore. Treatment of such a disease involves a regimen of hematin. The symptoms of this condition are not pleasant and many of them share no relation to story book vampires. Calling the suffers of this condition vampires would be insulting.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:05 am


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Will anything here be posted about "real" vampires (intrinsically/per se), or will this discussion thread continue to revolve around myth and legend?
Just asking question


I'd appreciate it if our discussions revolved around lore and legend, since that's where the vampire originated and, as far as I'm concerned, where it will always belong. I give no credence to "real" vampires, i.e., people who think that they need to drink blood or absorb life force from other people in order to stay healthy. However, I am not the captain, a vice captain, or even a crew member, so there's nothing I can do to stop it, should the discussions happen to swing that way.


And that is where the term "debatable" shall fall.
I will not begin a debate with you since you come across to me as sounding extremely adamant about your thoughts and opinions. It strikes me as pointless.
However, I'd like to personally encourage you to keep an open mind. This is, after all, the paranormal and occult we are discussing. Legend and lore play rather trivial parts in the subject(s).


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:10 am


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Will anything here be posted about "real" vampires (intrinsically/per se), or will this discussion thread continue to revolve around myth and legend?
Just asking question


I'd appreciate it if our discussions revolved around lore and legend, since that's where the vampire originated and, as far as I'm concerned, where it will always belong. I give no credence to "real" vampires, i.e., people who think that they need to drink blood or absorb life force from other people in order to stay healthy. However, I am not the captain, a vice captain, or even a crew member, so there's nothing I can do to stop it, should the discussions happen to swing that way.


And that is where the term "debatable" shall fall.
I will not begin a debate with you since you come across to me as sounding extremely adamant about your thoughts and opinions. It strikes me as pointless.
However, I'd like to personally encourage you to keep an open mind. This is, after all, the paranormal and occult we are discussing. Legend and lore play rather trivial parts in the subject(s).


I'm a bit of a paradox, as I'm fascinated by the paranormal and the occult, and yet I do not believe in anything I can't see, smell, hear, taste, touch, or measure.

That being said, I don't like discussing "real" vampires because there isn't enough substantial evidence to support their existence. However, if you wish to have such a discussion, then I will indulge you to the best of my abilities, so long as said discussion does not become too heated.


Although there is more that I could add, I feel it would simply be immature to do so. I suppose that could just be the remainder of my teen youth mildly attempting to personify itself. sweatdrop So I will just let this lay. "Live and let live." neutral


If you'd like to add something, feel free. We need some sort of discussion in this guild.


I happen to have known / met a few vampires. They are not like the ones in books and myths (the ones I have met). They were actually introduced into a strange family tradition of drinking and or eating blood. Not for sustanence. Just for pleasure. They aqquired a taste for it. Thats all. However, sharpened teeth is possible as well. Doesn't mean they are vampires. And most of the drinking is a sexual thing now-a-days. @_@. But there are also psychic vampires. People that either consciously or subconsciously suck / drain energy from other people.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:33 am


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There are people who need blood transfusions to live. There is no need to ingest blood. Porphyria has been suggested as an explanation for the origin of vampire and werewolf legends, based upon certain perceived similarities between the condition and the folklore. Treatment of such a disease involves a regimen of hematin. The symptoms of this condition are not pleasant and many of them share no relation to story book vampires. Calling the suffers of this condition vampires would be insulting.


Indeed. Porphyria actually bears little resemblence to vampirism. In fact, the theory that porphyria is the origin of vampire and werewolf legends revolves heavily around the harmful effect sunlight supposedly had on vampires. Any true vampire freak could tell you that the this is a relatively recent innovation in vampire lore that started in 1922, with the release of F. W. Murnau's Nosferatu, eine Symphonie des Grauens, the first film adaptation of Bram Stoker's Dracula.

Furthermore, there are about eight different types of porphyria, and only four of them can cause sensitivity to light.


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And that is where the term "debatable" shall fall.
I will not begin a debate with you since you come across to me as sounding extremely adamant about your thoughts and opinions. It strikes me as pointless.
However, I'd like to personally encourage you to keep an open mind. This is, after all, the paranormal and occult we are discussing. Legend and lore play rather trivial parts in the subject(s).


I'm a bit of a paradox, as I'm fascinated by the paranormal and the occult, and yet I do not believe in anything I can't see, smell, hear, taste, touch, or measure.

That being said, I don't like discussing "real" vampires because there isn't enough substantial evidence to support their existence. However, if you wish to have such a discussion, then I will indulge you to the best of my abilities, so long as said discussion does not become too heated.


Although there is more that I could add, I feel it would simply be immature to do so. I suppose that could just be the remainder of my teen youth mildly attempting to personify itself. sweatdrop So I will just let this lay. "Live and let live." neutral


If you'd like to add something, feel free. We need some sort of discussion in this guild.


I happen to have known / met a few vampires. They are not like the ones in books and myths (the ones I have met). They were actually introduced into a strange family tradition of drinking and or eating blood. Not for sustenance. Just for pleasure. They acquired a taste for it. That's all. However, sharpened teeth is possible as well. Doesn't mean they are vampires. And most of the drinking is a sexual thing now-a-days. @_@. But there are also psychic vampires. People that either consciously or subconsciously suck / drain energy from other people.


I have no problem with people who drink blood for pleasure because they are not "real" vampires. A "real" vampire is a person who believes that they need to drink blood or absorb energy from other people in order to stay healthy, who believes that blood sustains them and that they'll get sick without it. Even if they do get sick, I don't consider it proof that they are "real" vampires. To me, it's psychosomatic. They believe they'll get sick, so they get sick.

That being said, scientific studies involving so-called "psychic vampires" have yielded some interesting results, but nothing substantial or conclusive.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:23 am


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There are people who need blood transfusions to live. There is no need to ingest blood. Porphyria has been suggested as an explanation for the origin of vampire and werewolf legends, based upon certain perceived similarities between the condition and the folklore. Treatment of such a disease involves a regimen of hematin. The symptoms of this condition are not pleasant and many of them share no relation to story book vampires. Calling the suffers of this condition vampires would be insulting.


Indeed. Porphyria actually bears little resemblance to vampirism. In fact, the theory that porphyria is the origin of vampire and werewolf legends revolves heavily around the harmful effect sunlight supposedly had on vampires. Any true vampire freak could tell you that the this is a relatively recent innovation in vampire lore that started in 1922, with the release of F. W. Murnau's Nosferatu, eine Symphonie des Grauens, the first film adaptation of Bram Stoker's Dracula.

Furthermore, there are about eight different types of porphyria, and only four of them can cause sensitivity to light.


True but it is interesting to consider the the poor production of heme. Heme metabolism is an important metabolic process. Many important proteins contain heme. Proteins that are used to construct and maintain body functions and facilitate proper growth. In all cases there is an identifiable abnormality of the enzymes which synthesize heme. This leads to accumulation of intermediates of the pathway and a deficiency of heme.
Besides the obvious lead into photo sensitivity there is still the consideration of the need for heme. We can't deny that replenishing this source is vital to someone who is genetically deficient. Heme being a main component in hemoglobin one might suggest that before modern medicine one might have believed digesting blood to be a remedy. I have a hard time figuring out how well this would work. That digestive enzymes would break down the heme very quickly. A suppose larger quantities or to be taken as a supplement during a meal might off set the deficiency. It's ghoulish to think that prehaps there is a naturopathic physician considering such a regiment to offset a patient suffering from such a condition.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 3:22 pm


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I happen to have known / met a few vampires. They are not like the ones in books and myths (the ones I have met). They were actually introduced into a strange family tradition of drinking and or eating blood. Not for sustenance. Just for pleasure. They acquired a taste for it. That's all. However, sharpened teeth is possible as well. Doesn't mean they are vampires. And most of the drinking is a sexual thing now-a-days. @_@. But there are also psychic vampires. People that either consciously or subconsciously suck / drain energy from other people.


I have no problem with people who drink blood for pleasure because they are not "real" vampires. A "real" vampire is a person who believes that they need to drink blood or absorb energy from other people in order to stay healthy, who believes that blood sustains them and that they'll get sick without it. Even if they do get sick, I don't consider it proof that they are "real" vampires. To me, it's psychosomatic. They believe they'll get sick, so they get sick.

That being said, scientific studies involving so-called "psychic vampires" have yielded some interesting results, but nothing substantial or conclusive.


This all makes sense. I felt it was more canibalistic almost to crave blood.... I notice myself sometimes drooling at the sight of it, mesmerized.... I don't believe I've ever drank any though.... just... something about how it flows is so..... appetizing >_< and sensual

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:59 pm


There where times in my life in which I thought a few non food stuffs appear appetizing. I attribute this sort of craving to a general lack of certain nutrients. There are those who eat glass and those who swallow paper clips, gum and hair. These act and or cravings don't make them trash compactors or supernatural.
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