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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:34 pm


Please list any possible false prophets,miracle workers or teachers etc that you feel you need to warn us about....

State your reasons why you believe they are false. If you dont have any reasoning then please do not post.

LET THE WORD OF GOD SPEAK ABOVE ALL!

"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."
John 7:24


"But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,"
-1 Peter 3:15

"Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?"
-2 Corinthians 13:5

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
-Matthew 7:15

"And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold."
-Matthew 24:11-12

"Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."
-Matthew 24:23-24

"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not."
-2 Peter 2:1-3

"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. "
-1 John 4:1-3

"I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:"
-Revelations 2:2

"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:"
-2 John 1:7-10

"These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie—just as it has taught you, abide in him."
1 John 2:26-27

"I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive."
Romans 16:17-18

"“And why do you not judge for yourselves what is right? "
-Luke 12:57

"As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."
-2 Peter 3:16

"Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour."
-1 Peter 5:8

"Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us....
And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed."
-2 Thessalonians 3:6-14

"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."
-Colossians 2:8

"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
-Romans 16:17

"“Does our law judge a man without first giving him a hearing and learning what he does?”
-John 7:51
PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:58 pm


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Mike Murdock

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Murdock

Check him out for yourself!
Youtube video of Mike Murdock

I do not know much about this man, but I just watched him on television. I do not think he mentioned Christ once. His whole focus was money, he was telling the audience how he feels sick for days after he gives a lot of money. Doesn't this mean he is bonded to money? You shouldn't feel any pain from giving up money. If you do, that is where your heart is, its not on Christ. I do not know but it just disturbed me watching him. At the end of the show he was telling everyone to just give 1000 that its not for him or the station but for the giver to be blessed. His church is not one I would want to give to if they are not even preaching the true message of Jesus Christ. Yes Jesus will bless you for giving, but you wont inherit the kingdom of God because of this.

"And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible."
-Matthew 19:16-26

"Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
-Matthew 6:19-21

"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not."
-2 Peter 2:1-3

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Captain


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:16 pm


iNatur3
Do not worry about these things ><
The bible just states that there will be a few like Oprah... crying (Oprah stated that each person has their own God sad )
That man there still is figuring Christ himself, and if you could tell him about the true ways of Christianity, then yay! 3nodding


If he is a Christian, someone should be telling him that he needs to be preaching Christ.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:04 am


Oprah straight up denied Christ plain and simple. Her momma would be ashamed of her. She was raised missionary babtist, but got off on this weird spiritualist stuff. like Tom Cruise and Will Smith, to many people are making it mainstream that they believe that God ios not the only way to heaven and this statement is false.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:10 am


Many Televangelists aren't spreading the true word of God. They pick and choose what to preach and depend you to send them money for their giant mega churches. And they use God as a marketing ploy. Same goes for Faith Healers.


And last I checked, it's Oprah's job to advertise whatever people are selling. It's how she makes money. It's how she's famous. But I think it's bad to complain that she's actually doing her job. She's on a secular tv station/channel. She shouldn't be professing her faith if she weren't on a secular tv station. She has to advertise for whatever the demographics show.

I took a class on TV studies...>.>
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:36 am


-xXLady RaiXx-
Many Televangelists aren't spreading the true word of God. They pick and choose what to preach and depend you to send them money for their giant mega churches. And they use God as a marketing ploy. Same goes for Faith Healers.


And last I checked, it's Oprah's job to advertise whatever people are selling. It's how she makes money. It's how she's famous. But I think it's bad to complain that she's actually doing her job. She's on a secular tv station/channel. She shouldn't be professing her faith if she weren't on a secular tv station. She has to advertise for whatever the demographics show.

I took a class on TV studies...>.>
she was tore apart in the studio for this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf5heuUEUE0

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:41 am


0o The Angel o0
-xXLady RaiXx-
Many Televangelists aren't spreading the true word of God. They pick and choose what to preach and depend you to send them money for their giant mega churches. And they use God as a marketing ploy. Same goes for Faith Healers.


And last I checked, it's Oprah's job to advertise whatever people are selling. It's how she makes money. It's how she's famous. But I think it's bad to complain that she's actually doing her job. She's on a secular tv station/channel. She shouldn't be professing her faith if she weren't on a secular tv station. She has to advertise for whatever the demographics show.

I took a class on TV studies...>.>
she was tore apart in the studio for this
Yeah]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf5heuUEUE0
Yeah but isn't there a part in the Bible that says women shouldn't speak on religious matters? So really both women are in the wrong.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:50 am


-xXLady RaiXx-
0o The Angel o0
-xXLady RaiXx-
Many Televangelists aren't spreading the true word of God. They pick and choose what to preach and depend you to send them money for their giant mega churches. And they use God as a marketing ploy. Same goes for Faith Healers.


And last I checked, it's Oprah's job to advertise whatever people are selling. It's how she makes money. It's how she's famous. But I think it's bad to complain that she's actually doing her job. She's on a secular tv station/channel. She shouldn't be professing her faith if she weren't on a secular tv station. She has to advertise for whatever the demographics show.

I took a class on TV studies...>.>
she was tore apart in the studio for this
Yeah]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf5heuUEUE0
Yeah but isn't there a part in the Bible that says women shouldn't speak on religious matters? So really both women are in the wrong.that is pertaining to women preaching the word. Oprah is a role model to millions of women worldwide and for her to openly deny Christ is a statement of where the world is heading, we are rapidly approaching the 7 years of tribulation as spoken on in the Gospel in Matthew 24. as well as in revelation

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:55 am


0o The Angel o0
-xXLady RaiXx-
0o The Angel o0
-xXLady RaiXx-
Many Televangelists aren't spreading the true word of God. They pick and choose what to preach and depend you to send them money for their giant mega churches. And they use God as a marketing ploy. Same goes for Faith Healers.


And last I checked, it's Oprah's job to advertise whatever people are selling. It's how she makes money. It's how she's famous. But I think it's bad to complain that she's actually doing her job. She's on a secular tv station/channel. She shouldn't be professing her faith if she weren't on a secular tv station. She has to advertise for whatever the demographics show.

I took a class on TV studies...>.>
she was tore apart in the studio for this
Yeah]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf5heuUEUE0
Yeah but isn't there a part in the Bible that says women shouldn't speak on religious matters? So really both women are in the wrong.
that is pertaining to women preaching the word. Oprah is a role model to millions of women worldwide and for her to openly deny Christ is a statement of where the world is heading, we are rapidly approaching the 7 years of tribulation as spoken on in the Gospel in Matthew 24. as well as in revelationShe's not a role model to me. She's not a role model to my friends. Please do not generalize. And so what? I know several other people that openly deny Christ. Are they going to help destroy the world? I don't think so. neutral

And Revelation is talking about how it was when Israel was when Rome occupied them not how the future will be. Don't take it that far. Please. If anything, history teaches us not to believe the spaztic end timers. neutral
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:02 pm


-xXLady RaiXx-
0o The Angel o0
-xXLady RaiXx-
0o The Angel o0
-xXLady RaiXx-
Many Televangelists aren't spreading the true word of God. They pick and choose what to preach and depend you to send them money for their giant mega churches. And they use God as a marketing ploy. Same goes for Faith Healers.


And last I checked, it's Oprah's job to advertise whatever people are selling. It's how she makes money. It's how she's famous. But I think it's bad to complain that she's actually doing her job. She's on a secular tv station/channel. She shouldn't be professing her faith if she weren't on a secular tv station. She has to advertise for whatever the demographics show.

I took a class on TV studies...>.>
she was tore apart in the studio for this
Yeah]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf5heuUEUE0
Yeah but isn't there a part in the Bible that says women shouldn't speak on religious matters? So really both women are in the wrong.
that is pertaining to women preaching the word. Oprah is a role model to millions of women worldwide and for her to openly deny Christ is a statement of where the world is heading, we are rapidly approaching the 7 years of tribulation as spoken on in the Gospel in Matthew 24. as well as in revelation
She's not a role model to me. She's not a role model to my friends. Please do not generalize. And so what? I know several other people that openly deny Christ. Are they going to help destroy the world? I don't think so. neutral

And Revelation is talking about how it was when Israel was when Rome occupied them not how the future will be. Don't take it that far. Please. If anything, history teaches us not to believe the spaztic end timers. neutral I didnt say she was your role model, but O! magazine has 320 million subscribers. This shows that Oprah is a heavily followed women, who impacts a lot of people. I never said you personally. And Revelation is the end of the world revealed in prophecy to John The Babtist by the Lord Jesus Christ.

It discusses the mark of the beast, the lake of fire, the letters to the churches, the 7 trumpets, and Jesus returning to Earth to retrieve his followers and take us to Heaven. How is this the past.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:15 pm


0o The Angel o0
-xXLady RaiXx-
0o The Angel o0
-xXLady RaiXx-
0o The Angel o0
-xXLady RaiXx-
Many Televangelists aren't spreading the true word of God. They pick and choose what to preach and depend you to send them money for their giant mega churches. And they use God as a marketing ploy. Same goes for Faith Healers.


And last I checked, it's Oprah's job to advertise whatever people are selling. It's how she makes money. It's how she's famous. But I think it's bad to complain that she's actually doing her job. She's on a secular tv station/channel. She shouldn't be professing her faith if she weren't on a secular tv station. She has to advertise for whatever the demographics show.

I took a class on TV studies...>.>
she was tore apart in the studio for this
Yeah]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf5heuUEUE0
Yeah but isn't there a part in the Bible that says women shouldn't speak on religious matters? So really both women are in the wrong.
that is pertaining to women preaching the word. Oprah is a role model to millions of women worldwide and for her to openly deny Christ is a statement of where the world is heading, we are rapidly approaching the 7 years of tribulation as spoken on in the Gospel in Matthew 24. as well as in revelation
She's not a role model to me. She's not a role model to my friends. Please do not generalize. And so what? I know several other people that openly deny Christ. Are they going to help destroy the world? I don't think so. neutral

And Revelation is talking about how it was when Israel was when Rome occupied them not how the future will be. Don't take it that far. Please. If anything, history teaches us not to believe the spaztic end timers. neutral
I didnt say she was your role model, but O! magazine has 320 million subscribers. This shows that Oprah is a heavily followed women, who impacts a lot of people. I never said you personally. And Revelation is the end of the world revealed in prophecy to John The Babtist by the Lord Jesus Christ.

It discusses the mark of the beast, the lake of fire, the letters to the churches, the 7 trumpets, and Jesus returning to Earth to retrieve his followers and take us to Heaven. How is this the past.Well I am a female and you were using a generalization so..

Again. It's not talking about the end of the world. He was using a metaphors to describe how things were in those times. He did it in a masterful way, so the Romans wouldn't know what he was talking about. You have to look at what he's saying at a much deeper level. What you're getting is what it says at a literal level. Which isn't how John wanted it to be read.

I'm a writer myself so I can pick up on these sorts of things, and when I right I want my readers to look at what I write on a more deeper level. biggrin Makes things more interesting.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:24 pm


-xXLady RaiXx-
0o The Angel o0
-xXLady RaiXx-
0o The Angel o0
-xXLady RaiXx-
Yeah but isn't there a part in the Bible that says women shouldn't speak on religious matters? So really both women are in the wrong.
that is pertaining to women preaching the word. Oprah is a role model to millions of women worldwide and for her to openly deny Christ is a statement of where the world is heading, we are rapidly approaching the 7 years of tribulation as spoken on in the Gospel in Matthew 24. as well as in revelation
She's not a role model to me. She's not a role model to my friends. Please do not generalize. And so what? I know several other people that openly deny Christ. Are they going to help destroy the world? I don't think so. neutral

And Revelation is talking about how it was when Israel was when Rome occupied them not how the future will be. Don't take it that far. Please. If anything, history teaches us not to believe the spaztic end timers. neutral
I didnt say she was your role model, but O! magazine has 320 million subscribers. This shows that Oprah is a heavily followed women, who impacts a lot of people. I never said you personally. And Revelation is the end of the world revealed in prophecy to John The Babtist by the Lord Jesus Christ.

It discusses the mark of the beast, the lake of fire, the letters to the churches, the 7 trumpets, and Jesus returning to Earth to retrieve his followers and take us to Heaven. How is this the past.
Well I am a female and you were using a generalization so..

Again. It's not talking about the end of the world. He was using a metaphors to describe how things were in those times. He did it in a masterful way, so the Romans wouldn't know what he was talking about. You have to look at what he's saying at a much deeper level. What you're getting is what it says at a literal level. Which isn't how John wanted it to be read.

I'm a writer myself so I can pick up on these sorts of things, and when I right I want my readers to look at what I write on a more deeper level. biggrin Makes things more interesting.
Revelation is a book meant to be taken literally as it is what is destined to happen. if it had already taken place it would not be the book that closes the Bible,m and it would be discussed in the Gospel. but it is not.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:12 pm


-xXLady RaiXx-
0o The Angel o0
-xXLady RaiXx-
0o The Angel o0
-xXLady RaiXx-
Yeah but isn't there a part in the Bible that says women shouldn't speak on religious matters? So really both women are in the wrong.
that is pertaining to women preaching the word. Oprah is a role model to millions of women worldwide and for her to openly deny Christ is a statement of where the world is heading, we are rapidly approaching the 7 years of tribulation as spoken on in the Gospel in Matthew 24. as well as in revelation
She's not a role model to me. She's not a role model to my friends. Please do not generalize. And so what? I know several other people that openly deny Christ. Are they going to help destroy the world? I don't think so. neutral

And Revelation is talking about how it was when Israel was when Rome occupied them not how the future will be. Don't take it that far. Please. If anything, history teaches us not to believe the spaztic end timers. neutral
I didnt say she was your role model, but O! magazine has 320 million subscribers. This shows that Oprah is a heavily followed women, who impacts a lot of people. I never said you personally. And Revelation is the end of the world revealed in prophecy to John The Babtist by the Lord Jesus Christ.

It discusses the mark of the beast, the lake of fire, the letters to the churches, the 7 trumpets, and Jesus returning to Earth to retrieve his followers and take us to Heaven. How is this the past.
Well I am a female and you were using a generalization so..

Again. It's not talking about the end of the world. He was using a metaphors to describe how things were in those times. He did it in a masterful way, so the Romans wouldn't know what he was talking about. You have to look at what he's saying at a much deeper level. What you're getting is what it says at a literal level. Which isn't how John wanted it to be read.

I'm a writer myself so I can pick up on these sorts of things, and when I right I want my readers to look at what I write on a more deeper level. biggrin Makes things more interesting.


I'm sure Angel meant "millions of women" not "all women." Oprah is nice and giving and all... but shes not my role model either xD Christ is my role model :]

I honestly didn't know that Jesus taught through metaphors just so the Romans wouldn't understand. I thought it was more towards the local high priests and the nice clean temples that no one can get into except the well clothed priests unless you went through some crazy elaborate purification process by dumping yourself in a pool of water numerous times. o.o

There are some things to take literally in the bible, but some metaphorically (is that a word o.0). We just have to gain wisdom on what is actually being said to understand its truths.

I for some reason had the belief that Jesus talked through metaphors and parables just so his followers can understand his teachings. Like when he uses beautiful feet or the bread of life.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:13 pm


-xXLady RaiXx-
0o The Angel o0
-xXLady RaiXx-
Many Televangelists aren't spreading the true word of God. They pick and choose what to preach and depend you to send them money for their giant mega churches. And they use God as a marketing ploy. Same goes for Faith Healers.


And last I checked, it's Oprah's job to advertise whatever people are selling. It's how she makes money. It's how she's famous. But I think it's bad to complain that she's actually doing her job. She's on a secular tv station/channel. She shouldn't be professing her faith if she weren't on a secular tv station. She has to advertise for whatever the demographics show.

I took a class on TV studies...>.>
she was tore apart in the studio for this
Yeah]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf5heuUEUE0
Yeah but isn't there a part in the Bible that says women shouldn't speak on religious matters? So really both women are in the wrong.

You might be referring to Paul when he wrote the Letter to Timothy.

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1 Timothy 2:12


This is how I see it...

He could of said "God does not permit women to teach..." but he didn't. He said "I" meaning Paul himself does not like the idea. It does not support that God absolutely bans it:

And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy.
Acts 2:17-18

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