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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:08 am
Why do peole typically shun herbal healers in todays society?
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:48 pm
well i just thing that sociaty today is becoming more afraid and they fear for themselves so i just thing they need to open up a little but this is strange coming from some one who hates to have company of more than 2 people(i am wierd) they just need to look around, oh and another reason, with all the things that are happening in the world people can not be trusted i also think that people are very ignorant
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:20 am
People fear what they don't understand. Too many people rely on the "modern" styles of healing. They believe with modern technology comes better healing; so how could "old-fasioned" ways be of any use? Sadly, many people believe that scientific chemicals are always better than natural sources. To them, herbal healing is strange and unknown, and they don't take the time to try and understand. Instead, they oppose it.
Although, it seems people today are much more open minded to herbal healing than ever before.
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:18 pm
Also, keep in mind that many times herbal remedies are abused as "failsafe" "totally safe" "completely harmless", when in fact they can have very real issues. Admittedly, they can be safer when taken as directed, but oftentimes an herbal healer is accused of being a "quack" or "snake oil salesman" because before herbs became a scientific study, it was very common to find an herb being sold as a panacea- when in fact, it was not. Foxglove, for instance, was given to cure everything from dropsy (congestive heart failure) for which it worked, all the way down to upset stomachs, headaches, and a poor love life.
When something isn't thoroughly documented as safe, then people grow frightened. Standardizing has made herbal medicine much more "new-user friendly" because now they believe that what they take is checked out and safe.
Admittedly, sometimes that's not true- but sometimes it just takes some technical terms to make someone feel safer.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:24 am
I know! Take something like garlic.. I tell people to take it in droves when they have a cold. They wont believe me until I explain its antibiotic properties. And as you may have noticed I am a great fan of the medicinal use of honey. Ancient Egyptians used it for thousands of years in surgical operations we've only been able to duplicate this century... But hey, what did they know? They didnt have lab equipment
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:47 am
I think part of the problem is that people have come to expect a quick fix for everything. Herbal medicine sometimes works as a quick fix, like ginger for nausea, but really it's more about taking care of yourself before you get sick and treating injuries by allowing your body to take care of itself. People don't want you to tell them that taking certain herbs can help but that they also have to take care of their body's other needs for it to really help them. People know that taking care of themselves better (eating better/excersize) will help all their problems and make them feel better all around, so maybe they think that when herbalists say they have to take herbs in conjunction with diet, they sort of think the herbalist is full of it, because of course a better diet will make them feel better, but it's not a quick fix. The way that our society is, at least in the U.S., it is getting easier to eat healthy, there are more organic markets and such, but really people just don't have the time to always eat healthy. I know personally I have a hard time eating healthy food because I'm not used to it, or not used to the taste. Plus I'm lazy. I mean, why cook dinner when there's a perfectly good can of pringles nearby. But anyways, I also think there's that "hippie" stigma to herbalists and a lot of people don't want to admit an interest because it doesn't fit with their crowd.
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:44 pm
*nods* Without a doubt, herbal medicine (or most alternative therapies) have a stigma on them.
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:27 pm
[Teranika] Also, keep in mind that many times herbal remedies are abused as "failsafe" "totally safe" "completely harmless", when in fact they can have very real issues. Admittedly, they can be safer when taken as directed, but oftentimes an herbal healer is accused of being a "quack" or "snake oil salesman" because before herbs became a scientific study, it was very common to find an herb being sold as a panacea-...... When something isn't thoroughly documented as safe, then people grow frightened. Standardizing has made herbal medicine much more "new-user friendly" because now they believe that what they take is checked out and safe.
Admittedly, sometimes that's not true- but sometimes it just takes some technical terms to make someone feel safer. That's exactly why herbal medicine has fallen by the wayside. It's not regulated and standardized to the max so people are afraid of it. And with the 'snake oil' salesmen out there, we have reason to fear. How do you know that the herb in that pill really IS mint if that product isnt' regulated? Maybe its' dried grass from someone's lawn that's had a drop of mint oil added to it so you can smell it.
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:30 pm
Herbalists arent the only one's who dont' get the respect or spotlight they deserve; what about midwives? I know that to become a registered midwife there are a lot of courses you have to take and you have to be certified, but midwives are still looked down on by a lot of society. Personally, I can't wait to meet my midwife (when I need one). I'm looking forward to that personal connection between me and her/him. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:01 am
I think the idea of midwives is good, having a personal connection and stuff. But you can have a good personal connection with your doctor too. You just have to find a doctor that sees the person as well as the patient. My doctor who delivered my son this time, (I had him 6 days ago,) was really nice. I only got to see him a couple of times before I had the baby, because he had just gotten back from somewhere (military) but he was really nice, and after he delivered the baby he even came to the hospital the next day to check on me and bring me cookies. He doesn't make me nervous and I really trust him to do what he thinks is best for me as a person. I really don't know how midwives work but I think that for me it isn't that I'd look down on a midwife but more that I have no idea what they know how to do. With a doctor, especially one that I like/trust I know what kind of medical training they've had. And oh yeah... I love herbal medicine but for anyone having a baby.... go for the epideral! I've had one with both kids and they are wonderful. And it's kind of funny afterwards when you can't feel/move your legs very much. I'm glad it's not permanent of course, but it's definetly an interesting experience. This time it was way more noticeable than with my first kid. I could hardly stand for like six hours after.
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:19 pm
I'll have a midwife, although she may not even deliver my baby. Our doctors office (the only one the insurance covers that I know of) rotates doctors.... totally not cool with that, considering I have a fear of (not phobia, just terror) strange doctors.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:19 pm
Nemone I think the idea of midwives is good, having a personal connection and stuff. But you can have a good personal connection with your doctor too. You just have to find a doctor that sees the person as well as the patient. My doctor who delivered my son this time, (I had him 6 days ago,) was really nice. I only got to see him a couple of times before I had the baby, because he had just gotten back from somewhere (military) but he was really nice, and after he delivered the baby he even came to the hospital the next day to check on me and bring me cookies. He doesn't make me nervous and I really trust him to do what he thinks is best for me as a person. I really don't know how midwives work but I think that for me it isn't that I'd look down on a midwife but more that I have no idea what they know how to do. With a doctor, especially one that I like/trust I know what kind of medical training they've had. And oh yeah... I love herbal medicine but for anyone having a baby.... go for the epideral! I've had one with both kids and they are wonderful. And it's kind of funny afterwards when you can't feel/move your legs very much. I'm glad it's not permanent of course, but it's definetly an interesting experience. This time it was way more noticeable than with my first kid. I could hardly stand for like six hours after. my family always told me that the epideral hurts you more when you get older, that it starts messing with your body so what ever you do don't take it! confused
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:45 pm
keroswish my family always told me that the epideral hurts you more when you get older, that it starts messing with your body so what ever you do don't take it! confused Sometimes that's true. But honestly? I know a lot of women who would totally take the risk and the temporary pain, especially in long or exceptionally difficult labors.
And I'm stealing that little animation about fanfiction from your sig. whee
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:17 pm
They have been brainwashed that chemical medicines are better than natural plants... surprised
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:05 pm
Raven Blackstar They have been brainwashed that chemical medicines are better than natural plants... surprised Not always a bad thing- brainwashing is, but sometimes chemical medicines -are- better. For instance, jimson weed (Datura) and belladonna, foxglove and a good number of other medicines, they are intolerable in any (real) amount in the body- but when isolated, there are chemicals within that have potential to save lives.
People just have an inherant belief these days of "show me and I'll believe it". Modern medicine works fast enough you can say "See? Yesterday, pain. Today, no pain."
There's a huge difference between the little sick and the big sick. Herbal remedies (and other alternatives) are great for little-sick or for support care, but sometimes there's just a big-sick that needs a chemical medicine. Those times, you use herbs and such to support the body while the chemicals fight the disease.
(IE Leukemia, most cancers, pneumonia in most cases, ect.)
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