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 Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:44 am
Many people argue that our Moral laws could not be what they are today if it wasn't for religion. If it wasn't for figures like Jesus and Moses we would have no morality.
I say this is untrue b/c if people had no problem with killing others, everyone would live in fear of being murdered. They would brace themselves at every corner, expecting a painful demise. So everyone would agree that to support each others needs, they would have to obey this set of rules. This is how ancient civilizations were formed, tribes, and societies.
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:37 pm
I agree with you....ummmm....lets say 90% I am "Christian, or atleast have some "Christian" beliefs, and I feel that Jesus did have some impact on us as humans, and our moral standards today, that is were the other 10% comes into play. Please reply back!
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:49 pm
"Umm..i do not understand what you are saying".
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:52 pm
Ura the rainbow King "Umm..i do not understand what you are saying". To sum it up, if it wasn't for religion, would we have no moral values is the argument.
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:02 pm
Morality is little more than a cultural construction. While you will get tired of this approach quite soon, simply taking a cross cultural comparison will identify that across the board there is morality. While the specifics of what the morality contains will differ, quite strikingly at times, we find that a moral code is there all the same.
As for free killing, I disagree that this is intrinsically bad in and of itself. The first example which comes to mind are the Nuer of East Africa. Previously they used to hold that certain situations not only allowed but compelled them to kill someone who had performed a certain offense against them. Instead of leading to chaos, this actually led to helping them maintain social cohesion. Not that I am arguing we should attempt to replicate that. As things are never so simple as there being a singular cause and effect. Indeed it was in combination with numerous other aspects of their culture that this was so.
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:53 pm
I agree with you... on some levels.
We, as human beings, have a moral compass. You are born with it. Religions of any kind only say on where that compass should be pointed. They have only developed our moral views and laws, rules, etc. Made them more complex and, from the eye of the beholder, better or worse.
But to answer your main question- no. If there were no religions, we would still have moral values.
Then again, if it weren't for moral values (amoung other things), we would have no religious views or political views.
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:39 am
I believe having moral values starts at home and with how your parents/guardians raised you. To me, religion has nothing to do with it.
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