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Milain

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:18 pm


After posing my own Dom problems to the guild, I decided that I'd create a thread designed to help submissives and slaves alike cope with abuse that goes beyond a D/s relationship.

I figured that I could use my own pain, and the advice I was offered to help others like myself overcome the feeling of worthlessness forced upon us by an abusive Dom.

While you do not have to give us the whole story, the more information that is given, the better we as a community can help.

Please remember, that you are not alone, and you're not the only one who has had their sanity violated by a cruel Dom.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:18 am


I was strolling though another BDSM guild (Le gasp!) when I saw a thread entitled abuse, out of curiosity I clicked and found this. I felt it important to share with everyone.

Quote:

BDSM vs. Abuse

The key difference between S&M and Abuse, is "consent".
* Consent = Is an agreed approval of what is done and/or proposed by another.
* Abuse = to use so as to injure or damage: MALTREAT

S&M

* Is based on the safe, sane, consensual theory
* S&M is a controlled environment
* S&M has safe words to stop the scene
* In a S&M scene the dominant looks out for the well being of the submissive
* S&M can be an erotic sexual encounter
* In S&M both partners are enjoying themselves
* in S&M the dominant respects limits
* In S&M there is mutual respect
* In S&M the relationship is fulfilling
* In S&M both parties feel they contribute towards the relationships
* In S&M one can ask their partner to "play"
* In S&M relationship there is trust
* In S&M a submissive voluntarily serves the dominant
* S&M is about building trust
* S&M builds self esteem
* S&M builds the spirit of a submissive



Abuse

* Abuse is not negotiated
* Abuse is an out of control environment
* Abuse does not have safe words
* An abuser does not give a damn about the victim
* Abuse is always one sided
* Abuse is never negotiated.
* In abuse, no one is enjoying the results
* The abuser is into non consensual violence
* The victim has no respect towards the abuser
* In abuse the victim is harmed
* In abuse both parties are left unfulfilled
* The abuser always feel they are superior
* A person does not ask for abuse
* In an abusive relationship there is no trust
* The abuser does not care for consent
* Abuse has no trust
* Abuse destroys self esteem
* An abuser destroys the spirit of the victim




Dominants!!! Before you get in trouble know :
* A sub may be in subspace and not have the presence to stop the scene. Watch for your submissives well
being
* "Recalling," also known as "Flashbacks." Example of this can be, a sub who was raped years ago, and
during a humiliation scene, has a recall of that traumatic moment. Know thy sub. Don't let her flip out.
* Always clean your toys. Do not use the same toys without using condoms each time. Wash the toys after each
use. Do Not use same sex toys during multiple partner scenes, without changing condoms.
* Always use common sense. You are playing with a human being, who has given you the gift of trust.
Don't abuse that trust.
* Reputation takes a lifetime to earn, yet a measly second to lose. For a moment of gratification, don't ruin someone's life.


Don't be abused...Recognize the Signs

Physical abuse is all of the following:
* Hit, choke, slap, threaten or hurt you outside the scene content.
* The abuser will force sexual acts upon you, even if you are not in the mood
* Will rarely respect your physical limits

Mental/emotional abuse consist of:
* Isolating you from your friends, family or others
* Putting you constantly into a confused state
* Constantly being criticized
* Making you financially depended upon them
* They are constantly draining you of your finances
* You constantly have to watch what you say around them
* Making you feel worthless
* Blames you for all misfortunes
* Extreme jealousy on their part
* You being constantly afraid to speak to your partner
* Never listening to your concerns
* Constantly asking you for financial support
* You living constantly in the state of "Walking on Egg shells"

In case of Abuse:

* Contact National Domestic Violence Hotline 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) or 1-800-787-3224
* Leave the relationship
* Contact your family or friends
* Contact your religious leaders
* Call your local police department
* Get Local Counseling.

Milain

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:16 am


I'm very glad you brought up this topic again Milain, I too know the hardships of an abusive relationship between a Dom and a Sub.

I've been in two abusive relationships in my life, the first one was with my first boyfriend; who would cut me (I still have scars on my arms because of it) , he'd be overly protective and hurt me while claiming that I was cheating on him (even after we broke up), and he tried to rape me several times. Although he wasn't into the lifestyle, he still effected it and I still get flashbacks because of what happened.

My other ex boyfriend who WAS into the lifestyle was just a complete a*****e to me, and never respected my limits. I delt with his false Dom attitude and demands for years. His abuse was more mental and emotional than physical; but it was still abuse and I'm glad I got out of that situation.

I have flashbacks from time to time, and sadly I run into my first boyfriend sometimes as well. Though my current boyfriend truly has changed my life for the better, the memories still haunts me. And I hope that ANYONE who is going through any type of abuse will find the courage and strength to fight back and walk away. I know it's hard for a sub to walk away from her Master and to fight to the urge to "forgive and forget" but they need to realize that no one should have to stay in a situation like that.

Wow...long post. Sorry about that, I couldn't stop writing.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:09 pm


I too am really glad you posted this thread, I think it could help a lot of people. I linked it in the resources and education sticky in the guild forum, I hope you dont mind.

I too have been in multiple abusive relationships and know the pain it can bring when the position of dom is exchanged for an overprotective, jealous abuser. I wont get into the nitty gritty details in this post, though I don't mind sharing if anyone would like to know about it, but relationships can become very dangerous situations when attachment and an abusive partner become intermingled because it leads to the sub or girlfriend sticking around and taking the majority of responsibility for the negativity of the relationship. It's actually really common for you to feel it is your own fault that everything occurred, but that is never the case. No woman deserves to be treated like garbage, under no circumstance, but a lot of women make excuses and dont know when things step over the line from mean fighting to real abuse.

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Milain

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:37 pm


I am so glad to see that this topic has had a few responses. While it's not exactly the funnest topic around, it seems to be one that plagues the BDSM world more then it should.

I too have obviously had my own abusive Dom story, and sadly mine is one of the more recent ones. I found my freedom only a week ago.

The inner struggle I went through trying to decide if I should remain loyal, coupled with his cruelty left me feeling like a shattered porcelain doll.

No slave deserves that.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:58 pm


While I can't say I've had an abusive dom. I do have the little problem of my fantasies running very close to my fears. Mostly because of past experiences. So while I very much love the scene, I've always been afraid of being caught in a situation that turns bad and not having the power to stop it. When you hand over that kind of power, your also handing over that trust that you still have the power to say no. Unfortunately we also live in the real world where bad things happen and nothing is a guarantee. I'm glad to see this thread here, for who ever may need it.

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