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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:36 pm
Let me present to you, The Most Obnoxious Team Ever. This team takes absolutely forever to defeat even if you do defeat it, and is basically a team that refuses to actually ever get around to attacking you, but oh god will it hurt you.
Hippowdon@Leftovers Impish ~ Earthquake ~ Slack Off ~ Stealth Rock ~ Roar
Meet my lead. Hippowdon leads to get the Sandstorm damage started, and is an absolute physical wall. Slack Off is a nice recovery move if I don't think a certain Pokemon poses any threat to Hippowdon, Stealth Rock is obvious for the setup on this team, and Roar lets me shuffle around Pokemon to take them through said Stealth Rock (and other entry hazards). Earthquake is a good, solid attack move that gets STAB and covers a whole lot of stuff.
Skarmory@Leftovers Impish ~ Brave Bird ~ Roost ~ Spikes ~ Whirlwind
Are you noticing a pattern yet? Skarmory is another absolute wall of a Pokemon, albeit one with different coverage than Hippowdon. A very similar moveset - Spikes as another entry hazard, Whirlwind to shuffle them around, Roost for healing, and Brave Bird as a good STAB attack.
Dusknoir@Leftovers Impish ~ Will-o-Wisp ~ Pain Split ~ Earthquake ~ Ice Punch
TWO attacking moves? Golly! Will-o-Wisp allows Dusknoir to come in and immediately cripple many physical sweepers. Pain Split is a healing move, albeit a bit unreliable especially in this team, and I might switch it for Rest. Quake and Ice Punch provide good coverage, and are a nice surprise for someone who doesn't expect Dusknoir to have anything 'useful', per se.
Forretress@Leftovers Relaxed ~ Spikes ~ Gyro Ball ~ Rapid Spin ~ Reflect
Here's another Spiker, but with different uses than Skarmory. Reflect can go up to make the wallingness of this team even more... uh, wally; Rapid Spin is good to deal with any entry hazards that this team ends up against, since it doesn't particularly like dealing with them either. Gyro Ball, due to Forretress's abysmal speed, can do a TON of damage and is a neat little surprise.
Blissey@Leftovers Calm ~ Wish ~ Softboiled ~ Flamethrower ~ Toxic
Wish and Softboiled ensure that Blissey will be able to heal not only itself, but the other Pokemon on my team. Toxic combined with Softboiled ensures that a Pokemon's either gonna have to switch out (and thus eat SR + Spikes damage) or eventually die, unless it's something that Blissey shouldn't be in on in the first place.
Vaporeon@Leftovers Bold ~ Wish ~ Protect ~ Surf ~ Yawn
Wish and Protect allow Vaporeon to heal itself - or, in a pinch, other people as well, though Blissey fills this role better. Surf is a useful STAB move if I need to actually attack something directly; Yawn puts things to sleep and forces switchouts (for more SR/spikes damage).
This team is not a fast team. It takes forever to do its job, and it is incredibly frustrating to play against, but boy will it piss you off. The general strategy is to use Hippowdon + Skarmory + Forretress to get up a good setup of SR and as many Spikes as possible, and then just keep forcing switchouts. And it hurts. A lot.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:09 am
awsome team do you midn if i make it i have always wanted to make somethin like this also some other good walls you missed out on that i would put in there uxie (one of the best walls you can get believe it or not even tho no one uses it) and registeel thes ones are both all round walls and are awsome. tho also i see your team would be screwed if your oppenent had a rapid spinner.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:22 am
dustelemental awsome team do you midn if i make it i have always wanted to make somethin like this also some other good walls you missed out on that i would put in there uxie (one of the best walls you can get believe it or not even tho no one uses it) and registeel thes ones are both all round walls and are awsome. tho also i see your team would be screwed if your oppenent had a rapid spinner. Go ahead - and yeah, I realize there are some walls I didn't use (Uxie, the Regi trio, etc) but I only had room for six. And if I expect a Rapid Spinner that's what Dusknoir is for - it comes in, goes "hahahah normal attack" and eats the Rapid Spin, while hitting back with EQ, Ice Punch, or just Burning it.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:38 am
Nerosan dustelemental awsome team do you midn if i make it i have always wanted to make somethin like this also some other good walls you missed out on that i would put in there uxie (one of the best walls you can get believe it or not even tho no one uses it) and registeel thes ones are both all round walls and are awsome. tho also i see your team would be screwed if your oppenent had a rapid spinner. Go ahead - and yeah, I realize there are some walls I didn't use (Uxie, the Regi trio, etc) but I only had room for six. And if I expect a Rapid Spinner that's what Dusknoir is for - it comes in, goes "hahahah normal attack" and eats the Rapid Spin, while hitting back with EQ, Ice Punch, or just Burning it. well yeah lol but personally i think thoes walls are better lol anyway that reminds me i am making a regi trio team lol it is all UU and awsome lol.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:41 am
dustelemental Nerosan dustelemental awsome team do you midn if i make it i have always wanted to make somethin like this also some other good walls you missed out on that i would put in there uxie (one of the best walls you can get believe it or not even tho no one uses it) and registeel thes ones are both all round walls and are awsome. tho also i see your team would be screwed if your oppenent had a rapid spinner. Go ahead - and yeah, I realize there are some walls I didn't use (Uxie, the Regi trio, etc) but I only had room for six. And if I expect a Rapid Spinner that's what Dusknoir is for - it comes in, goes "hahahah normal attack" and eats the Rapid Spin, while hitting back with EQ, Ice Punch, or just Burning it. well yeah lol but personally i think thoes walls are better lol anyway that reminds me i am making a regi trio team lol it is all UU and awsome lol. Better than what? What would I replace for Uxie, for example?
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:46 am
since you already have a wish support i would replace vaporeon with uxie and since you have skarmory for shuffling the enemy and since registeel has stealth rock i would replace hippowdon with registeel you also won't get the sand storm that herts most of your team lol.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:51 am
dustelemental since you already have a wish support i would replace vaporeon with uxie and since you have skarmory for shuffling the enemy and since registeel has stealth rock i would replace hippowdon with registeel you also won't get the sand storm that herts most of your team lol. Vaporeon also provides valuable sleep support with 100% accurate Yawn, has good type coverage for leaping in on Water attacks, and is very bulky. Sandstorm is intentional; the few pokemon that take damage from it (Vaporeon and Blissey) are more than capable of taking damage. Dusknoir doesn't really like it but is rarely in for long; the other three are immune.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:01 am
Nerosan dustelemental since you already have a wish support i would replace vaporeon with uxie and since you have skarmory for shuffling the enemy and since registeel has stealth rock i would replace hippowdon with registeel you also won't get the sand storm that herts most of your team lol. Vaporeon also provides valuable sleep support with 100% accurate Yawn, has good type coverage for leaping in on Water attacks, and is very bulky. Sandstorm is intentional; the few pokemon that take damage from it (Vaporeon and Blissey) are more than capable of taking damage. Dusknoir doesn't really like it but is rarely in for long; the other three are immune. true but registeel with it 150 base sp def and def and uxie with its 135 base sp def and def should get a part in it lol.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:09 am
dustelemental Nerosan dustelemental since you already have a wish support i would replace vaporeon with uxie and since you have skarmory for shuffling the enemy and since registeel has stealth rock i would replace hippowdon with registeel you also won't get the sand storm that herts most of your team lol. Vaporeon also provides valuable sleep support with 100% accurate Yawn, has good type coverage for leaping in on Water attacks, and is very bulky. Sandstorm is intentional; the few pokemon that take damage from it (Vaporeon and Blissey) are more than capable of taking damage. Dusknoir doesn't really like it but is rarely in for long; the other three are immune. true but registeel with it 150 base sp def and def and uxie with its 135 base sp def and def should get a part in it lol. Yeah, but like I said, what do I replace? One of the reasons I like so many of the ones I have is that they can heal themselves easily (Hippowdon, Blissey, Vaporeon, Skarmory), and the ones that can't fill very specific roles that Uxie and Registeel can't (Dusknoir as Rapid Spin blocker, Forretress as Rapid Spinner). Don't get me wrong if I had space I'd throw them in but there simply isn't any space for them!
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:28 am
yeah i still think that you should replace hippowdon because of the sand storm because the most annoying thing about blissy and vaporeon is thier leftovers but now all that would do is regain all the lost hp from sand storm lol.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:31 am
dustelemental yeah i still think that you should replace hippowdon because of the sand storm because the most annoying thing about blissy and vaporeon is thier leftovers but now all that would do is regain all the lost hp from sand storm lol. Yes, but Sandstorm is also hurting the opponent, and Vaporeon and Blissey are much more well-equipped to deal with the Sandstorm damage (since, uh, both of them have healing moves!) I knew perfectly well what I was doing when I included Hippowdon as a lead. Sandstorm is just more added damage along with Stealth Rock and Spikes.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:36 am
yeah well i just have a thing about regies i don't know why they are UU and NU lol
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:43 am
I'm inclined to agree with Nerosan. Sandstorm is very deliberate and while Bliss and Vappy are getting hit from it, they're recovering the damage with Leftovers, which is what I assume the point of Leftovers was. And if excess damage starts overwhelming them, then they've got Wish to heal themselves up nicely, as well. Sandstorm teams don't have to be wholly Steel/Rock/Ground.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:46 am
dustelemental yeah well i just have a thing about regies i don't know why they are UU and NU lol Regirock: Weakness to Ground, which practically every Pokemon ever carries, along with a fairly limited movepool (okay, REALLY limited). Its slow-as-balls speed doesn't really help things either. Registeel: Also begging to be Earthquaked. Fairly easily walled as well. Has a ton of weaknesses that are easily exploited (Fire, Ground, Fighting). Regice: Takes a ton of damage from more common things (Fire, Fighting); vulnerable to Stealth Rock; crap moveset; even Special Attackers, which are more powerful now, can do quite a bit to it.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:47 am
Also yes, technically Blissey can't learn Wish except from an event, but I think things like that are stupid. If you really have a problem with Blissey having Wish on it, switch it out to something else like Aromatherapy (which makes Vaporeon even more necessary, IMO.)
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