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iSatoru

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:21 pm


Absol
Focus sash
Super Luck Adamant
~ Swords Dance
~ Sucker Punch
~ Superpower
~ Night Slash
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Reason As Lead
this is my personal set as a lead but it is simply and utterly Demonic Everything now a days will start by Stealth Rocking it is just what people do and then i swords dance then it tries to kill me so i night slash or superpower hiding the sucker punch i do the following turn to ko the lead. it does have some problems with hiippowdon because of sandstorm destroying its focus sash but other than that i really enjoy using it.


Celebi
Evs 252 hp 220 def 36 Speed Item: leftovers
Nature:Bold
Ability: Natural Cure
move #1:HP fire
move #2:grass knot
move #3:leech seed
move #4:recover

basic idea is to leech while walling then recover proceed to sweep while gaining health from leech seed. if i cant pull that off i just regularly wall and help other pokes on my team to finish the weakened pokes off. HP fire is just so unpredictable destroying choice band scizor and outrons jolly Tar for a significant amount of damage with grass knot.

Heatran

Evs 252 sp atk 252 speed 4 hp Item: choice scarf
Nature:Naive
Ability: flash fire
move #1:explosion
move #2:fire blast
move #3:earth power
move #4:HP ice
Great Special sweeper and with that beastly sp atk and perfect synergy with celebi it is a perfect addition to a team. he also is a great revenge killer and can stop things that could hurt celebi right in their tracks


Suicune
Moveset @leftovers
~ Surf
~ Calm Mind
~ Rest
~ Hp Electric
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe Reason on team
1 of my 2 Set up sweeper i just switch in safely and i know most of the time thyll switch out so i calm mind so im already at a +1 and and if vaporeon comes i simply keep seting up after i get my calm mind i start to sweep and with all those boosts under my belt this cune can take down...anything.




snorlax

Leftovers Thick Fat Careful
~ Curse
~ Body Slam
~ Rest
~ Fire Punch
168 HP / 120 Def / 220 SpD
Reason on team

My Second Sexy set up sweeper i switch in and start cursing and after he is done saying his words of inspiration he will take any beating and brush it off like nothing killing whatever hit him. fire punch is for the pesky Ghost that LOVE to switch in and Wow me even though im gonna rest anyway.this IMO is probably one of the most underestimated OU that people dont use much.well i dont see it much. But all in all it is EPIC.

Scizor
Choice Band Technician Adamant
~ U-turn
~ Bullet Punch
~ Superpower
~ Pursuit
248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe
Reason on team

This thing holds everyone together like Glue it kills the big threats that can take out lax and cune before they get truly Damaged. he is An
amazing wall breaker taking out blissey like the cow that hit the moon.

Problems

Mixape- is truly the most annoying thing for this team hurting everything i have but i can try to reveng kill with heatran but that is basicly it
Lack of Stealth rocks- that is a problem and i hope to find a way to resolve it
PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:51 pm


To deal with those damn Mixapes, I'd recommend replacing Suicune with Latias. She is a great Mixape counter, resisting both of it's STAB and Grass Knot, even HP Ice would fail to 2HKO, then outspeeding him and KO with Psychic or Surf. Latias has nice synergy with Heatran so she may fit in your team nicely; she also can run a Calm Mind set like Suicune.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:47 pm


_X A Fallen Angel X_
Absol
Focus sash
Super Luck Adamant
~ Swords Dance
~ Sucker Punch
~ Superpower
~ Night Slash
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Reason As Lead
this is my personal set as a lead but it is simply and utterly Demonic Everything now a days will start by Stealth Rocking it is just what people do and then i swords dance then it tries to kill me so i night slash or superpower hiding the sucker punch i do the following turn to ko the lead. it does have some problems with hiippowdon because of sandstorm destroying its focus sash but other than that i really enjoy using it.


Swords Dancing on startup? Interesting idea, but at the same time that seems awfully risky given Absol's mediocre defenses; any suicide lead is going to smash Absol to bits. Metagross is a fairly common lead who will smash this apart before it even has a chance to get going, among other things. I like the setup, but I don't know how much I like it as a lead - it's REALLY reliant on the Focus Sash.


_X A Fallen Angel X_
Celebi
Evs 252 hp 220 def 36 Speed Item: leftovers
Nature:Bold
Ability: Natural Cure
move #1:HP fire
move #2:grass knot
move #3:leech seed
move #4:recover

basic idea is to leech while walling then recover proceed to sweep while gaining health from leech seed. if i cant pull that off i just regularly wall and help other pokes on my team to finish the weakened pokes off. HP fire is just so unpredictable destroying choice band scizor and outrons jolly Tar for a significant amount of damage with grass knot.


HP Fire isn't that much of a surprise on Celebi, but other than that it looks good; just be wary of Pursuit users, Salamence, and Latias; the latter two have no problem with setting up on Celebi and making your day miserable.

_X A Fallen Angel X_
Heatran

Evs 252 sp atk 252 speed 4 hp Item: choice scarf
Nature:Naive
Ability: flash fire
move #1:explosion
move #2:fire blast
move #3:earth power
move #4:HP ice
Great Special sweeper and with that beastly sp atk and perfect synergy with celebi it is a perfect addition to a team. he also is a great revenge killer and can stop things that could hurt celebi right in their tracks


And there's your solution to potential Celebi threats.

_X A Fallen Angel X_
Suicune
Moveset @leftovers
~ Surf
~ Calm Mind
~ Rest
~ Hp Electric
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe Reason on team
1 of my 2 Set up sweeper i just switch in safely and i know most of the time thyll switch out so i calm mind so im already at a +1 and and if vaporeon comes i simply keep seting up after i get my calm mind i start to sweep and with all those boosts under my belt this cune can take down...anything.


Fairly standard Suicune sweeper, but don't get too confident, especially because there's no Ice Beam here on Suicune; like Celebi, Dragon-types (especially Salamence) are gonna have a field day setting up if you get overconfident with it.

_X A Fallen Angel X_
snorlax

Leftovers Thick Fat Careful
~ Curse
~ Body Slam
~ Rest
~ Fire Punch
168 HP / 120 Def / 220 SpD
Reason on team

My Second Sexy set up sweeper i switch in and start cursing and after he is done saying his words of inspiration he will take any beating and brush it off like nothing killing whatever hit him. fire punch is for the pesky Ghost that LOVE to switch in and Wow me even though im gonna rest anyway.this IMO is probably one of the most underestimated OU that people dont use much.well i dont see it much. But all in all it is EPIC.


What item is Snorlax using? Resting up with this offensive build seems like it's asking for something to get a free switch-in; remember that Curse doesn't boost SpDef. If you did this against me you'd more than likely see something jump in and Roar it out, or a Special sweeper get ready to deal with it.

_X A Fallen Angel X_
Scizor
Choice Band Technician Adamant
~ U-turn
~ Bullet Punch
~ Superpower
~ Pursuit
248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe
Reason on team

This thing holds everyone together like Glue it kills the big threats that can take out lax and cune before they get truly Damaged. he is An
amazing wall breaker taking out blissey like the cow that hit the moon.

Problems

Mixape- is truly the most annoying thing for this team hurting everything i have but i can try to reveng kill with heatran but that is basicly it
Lack of Stealth rocks- that is a problem and i hope to find a way to resolve it


Ah, CB Scizor. Tons of OU teams run this, and I'm not surprised to see it here either.

My comment here is that this team is DANGEROUSLY vulnerable to Dragon-types. Your only answer to them seems to be Heatran, and Heatran has a 4x Ground weakness that can make it really, REALLY vulnerable. I don't see much on this team that will stop a DD Salamence, for example, once Heatran goes down.

Also: SD Lucario, especially because there's 3 Pokemon 2x weak to Fighting. Hell, even SubPunch Breloom could do some nasty s**t here.
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