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 Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:18 pm
Since nobody else has done it, looks like I'll take a shot.
1. What is this guild's goal? Is it to remove the offers from Gaia, as the title of the group states? No? What is it?
2. How do we see the offers? All bad? mostly bad? A flawed system? A good try? Something great?
3. Why are we trying to accomplish our goals? What is our motivation?
4. Generally, how do we plan on accomplishing our task?
Post the answers to these questions (numbered) in ONE POST. Once a few people have answered, maybe we will have an idea about where we stand as a guild.
I'll put up a general idea of what most people have said below once enough people have posted.
IN THIS THREAD, THERE SHALL BE NO:
1. debating.
2. trolling. that one's a given.
3. off-topic discussion.
4. incorrectly formatted posts.
Finally, state your opinions, not a combination of the ones above you that you liked.
HERE'S MY CONCLUSION:
1. What is this guild's goal? Is it to remove the offers from Gaia, as the title of the group states? No? What is it?
The goal of this guild is to make The offers safer, without a doubt. Whether this goal was derived from realization of the unlikelihood of Gaia getting rid of them or from initial praise of the idea of offers but disgust with the application, we can all agree that the offers must be made safer.
2. How do we see the offers? All bad? mostly bad? A flawed system? A good try? Something great?
Getting free Gaia Cash for completing offers was a great idea. Unfortunately, Gaia either chose a bad company to provide the service or did not do a good job with filtering.
3. Why are we trying to accomplish our goals? What is our motivation?
We are moving forward because we do not trust Gaia to fix this on its own. They have put their users' safety and even the reputation of the site on the line, and the stakes are not in their favor. Because Gaia cannot be expected to sort this mess out, we have to do it for the sake of our peers and our site.
4. Generally, how do we plan on accomplishing our task?
First and foremost, we plan to raise awareness through Gaia's many features, namely boycotting, the forums, and the petition. Perhaps the Message in a Bottle feature, among others, will also be utilized in the effort. 100% awareness is the ideal, but also realized to be very unlikely, even impossible.
Along with raising awareness, we need to get in contact with the staff members, not moderators. The intent is to talk to the people who matter so we can be listened to as well as heard.
If you feel that your views were inadequately expressed in this mush-up, please post.
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:20 pm
1. What is this guild's goal? Is it to remove the offers from Gaia, as the title of the group states? No? What is it?
I believe that this guild has multiple goals. I think it started as removing the offers completely, but now, I think it's become more of a 'make them safer' kind of thing.
2. How do we see the offers? All bad? mostly bad? A flawed system? A good try? Something great?
I think that Gaia tried on this. Sure, I bet they knew what they would get into, and they should have actually done ALL of the offers themselves, but they checked a few, and saw that those few worked, so they were happy with them.
3. Why are we trying to accomplish our goals? What is our motivation?
Why are we trying? I believe that we all are trying one way or another. Even the trolls tried, but not well. We all have a shared goal, and we want to obtain it in a civil manner.
4. Generally, how do we plan on accomplishing our task?
How will we accomplish it? That, I don't know. I think that if we get enough signatures for the petition, get more people for the guild, tell people in zOMG and such places, etc. Would be a good way to do it.
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:36 pm
1. What is this guild's goal? Is it to remove the offers from Gaia, as the title of the group states? No? What is it?
I believe that the guild's goal is to have the offers that are dangerous, scams, tricks, and generally just not good removed, and to try to help gaia find an alternative service instead of GetGambit
2. How do we see the offers? All bad? mostly bad? A flawed system? A good try? Something great?
A bad execution of a good idea. If it were to be fixed, I'd think it's a great feature.
3. Why are we trying to accomplish our goals? What is our motivation?
We're motivated because we want Gaia to be a safe place for its users, and because we love gaia but think that they have a few screw-ups to sort out.
4. Generally, how do we plan on accomplishing our task?
Protesting, talking to and working with the staff who can actually change things, boycotting the offers, encouraging gaia cash purchases people actually pay a fair price for, getting the word out as much as possible.
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:26 pm
1. What is this guild's goal? Is it to remove the offers from Gaia, as the title of the group states? No? What is it?
The guild's goal is 100% safety for its users. If that can't be achieved with the current Offers system, then a new system must be established, but a One In Three ratio of safety is absolutely unacceptable.
2. How do we see the offers? All bad? mostly bad? A flawed system? A good try? Something great?
The concept is great. The execution is a failure.
3. Why are we trying to accomplish our goals? What is our motivation?
We are trying to accomplish this because users are in actual danger. Danger of having their computers or even lives ruined because they trust Gaia.
4. Generally, how do we plan on accomplishing our task?
Firstly: Raising awareness. If we could reach 100% of the Gaia user population and ensure that they know to treat these offers with caution, that would be ideal, but we can't. Still, promotion of knowledge about the dangers involved in these offers should be the priority.
Secondly: Continuing communication with the Gaia Staff. Through Ask The Admin threads, or through convention panels, or through whatever other channels are available.
Thirdly: to encourage the boycotting of the Offers System until it is safe for the users of Gaia.
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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:54 am
1. What is this guild's goal? Is it to remove the offers from Gaia, as the title of the group states? No? What is it?
To remove the offers would be nice, but not possible. The idea of free gaia cash would be nice - Getting gaia cash from Scandinavia is more or less impossible unless you use zong (which lands us with a cross atlantic phone bill).
I'd say the goal is to make them safe.
2. How do we see the offers? All bad? mostly bad? A flawed system? A good try? Something great?
The offers are all bad, as far as I've come to understand. Any offer with negative side effects is bad. The idea on the other hand was good.
3. Why are we trying to accomplish our goals? What is our motivation?
The safety of gaians an the reputation of the site!
4. Generally, how do we plan on accomplishing our task?
Spreading the awareness, raise our voices and letting the staff know that we are serious. This includes:
Forum topics, for example in chatterbox? The message in a bottle feature and letters to gaia may be another idea. I'm not sure how much attention they give to petitions, but so far so good.
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:54 pm
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:51 pm
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:56 pm
Well at least you're honest. xd
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:46 pm
Mylian 1. What is this guild's goal? Is it to remove the offers from Gaia, as the title of the group states? No? What is it?The guild's goal is 100% safety for its users. If that can't be achieved with the current Offers system, then a new system must be established, but a One In Three ratio of safety is absolutely unacceptable. 2. How do we see the offers? All bad? mostly bad? A flawed system? A good try? Something great?
The concept is great. The execution is a failure. 3. Why are we trying to accomplish our goals? What is our motivation?We are trying to accomplish this because users are in actual danger. Danger of having their computers or even lives ruined because they trust Gaia. 4. Generally, how do we plan on accomplishing our task?Firstly: Raising awareness. If we could reach 100% of the Gaia user population and ensure that they know to treat these offers with caution, that would be ideal, but we can't. Still, promotion of knowledge about the dangers involved in these offers should be the priority. Secondly: Continuing communication with the Gaia Staff. Through Ask The Admin threads, or through convention panels, or through whatever other channels are available. Thirdly: to encourage the boycotting of the Offers System until it is safe for the users of Gaia. I have to agree 100% with this post.
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:26 pm
Very well. I'll update the first post with a mash-up... or whatever a mush-together is properly called.
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