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 Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:34 am
An incredibly interesting video that I think everyone should watch, especially those who intend to discuss the supernatural and/or the paranormal.
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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:03 pm
I don't believe I am close-minded but I have yet to really search for hard evidence on wither I am or am not. Interesting video.
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:33 pm
enjoyed the video. For me being a strong christian and beleiving in the supernatural can sometimes put me out with a lot of other christian groups. A lot of the time I keep my ideas to myself. I always try to open with a paranormal discussion with an easy question of do you beleive in x/y/z ? Depending on the answer, will I then try to logically discuss my views. I have learned arguing with someone will never help, if they don't beleive don't force them. We are all entitled to our own opinion/beleifs. It's not right to force that on anyone.
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:56 pm
Ledlin enjoyed the video. For me being a strong christian and beleiving in the supernatural can sometimes put me out with a lot of other christian groups. A lot of the time I keep my ideas to myself. I always try to open with a paranormal discussion with an easy question of do you beleive in x/y/z ? Depending on the answer, will I then try to logically discuss my views. I have learned arguing with someone will never help, if they don't beleive don't force them. We are all entitled to our own opinion/beleifs. It's not right to force that on anyone. As far as I'm concerned, being a Christian and believing in the supernatural go hand-in-hand, as God Himself is supernatural. Honestly, I find it ironic that people can believe in God and angels, but not in other supernatural creatures, such as vampires and werewolves. I also find it ironic that people can believe in the God of the Abrahamic religions, but not in the gods and goddesses of ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, India, or Scandinavia. I think that if people have to believe in God, it should be an obscure God, not a specific one. I don't believe that God exists, but if He does, I don't think that he's as human as we'd like him to be. I don't think that He cares about us. I don't think He is even capable of caring. Not like a human does, anyway. I believe that, if God exists, he's far beyond anything any human can comprehend. Anyway, I'm probably not nearly as open-minded as I think I am, but I'd like to be. I try to consider new ideas as often as I can, provided they are supported by evidence.
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:41 pm
the one element that gets left out of a lot of these discussions is "faith". Believing in something that you can't see, hear, feel, etc. That is usually the huge obstacle for a lot of people. Everyone wants proof and that kind of defeats the purpose of religion (in my opinion). Personally I've never seen god, but I have faith that he exists, knows me, loves me, and cares about my well-being. It is a very hard concept for a lot to grasp.
Inregards to "supernatural" in religion, I also find it hard to understand how they can't believe. In the Bible they are called "miracles". If we go by definition, a miracle is "not natural" hence, supernatural. Also I don't believe the bible was "translated" in it's original form. You have people writing it out by hand there is bound to be a mix up, misspelling, etc. For instance take the word "sword" you lose the S and it becomes "word". Just something to think about.
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:29 pm
Ledlin the one element that gets left out of a lot of these discussions is "faith". Believing in something that you can't see, hear, feel, etc. That is usually the huge obstacle for a lot of people. Everyone wants proof and that kind of defeats the purpose of religion (in my opinion). Personally I've never seen god, but I have faith that he exists, knows me, loves me, and cares about my well-being. It is a very hard concept for a lot to grasp. I believe that religion is a response to fear of the unknown. Humans are afraid of the unknown, of everything from what's going to happen when you walk into the convenience store down the street to what's going to happen when you have children to what's going to happen when you die. They need to believe that God's looking after them. They need to believe that everything happens for a reason. They need to believe that life has a purpose. They need to believe. They have to. I mean no offense to anyone, but it seems to me that people who are religious completely convinced that there is a God, that there is a reason for everything, that there is a purpose to life. It's not hard to have faith when you're absolutely certain of something. In fact, it's much harder to accept the possibility that this is all there is. Personally, I find it much more comforting to believe that this isn't just a test. Ledlin Inregards to "supernatural" in religion, I also find it hard to understand how they can't believe. In the Bible they are called "miracles". If we go by definition, a miracle is "not natural" hence, supernatural. Also I don't believe the bible was "translated" in it's original form. You have people writing it out by hand there is bound to be a mix up, misspelling, etc. For instance take the word "sword" you lose the S and it becomes "word". Just something to think about. Over the last 2000 years, the Bible has been translated from Hebrew into Aramaic into Greek into Latin into English and then into hundreds or thousands of other languages. Something's bound to get lost in the translation. That, and the Church chooses which books make it into the Bible and which books don't. The Gospels of Thomas, Judas, and Mary Magdalene are perfect examples of books that were left out for whatever reason. There are countless others. Honestly, I think people should question the historicity of their religion more often.
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