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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:50 am
So how did you guys like the movie?? I didn't like it all that much. My reasons:
1. It jumped too much, like too much at a time. ie. from dream, to quidditch, to tents to school etc. 2. The director missed a lot of stuff and screwed a lot of stuff up. i.e. quidditch game, the Yule Ball etc. 3. Krum is a bit out of character, along with Cedric
There are just numerous things that I spotted. The whole movie was just messed up. The humor was good, but that isn't the point of the book. The director should've taken more leafs out of JK's book rather than inventing his own things off of JK's invention. He tried to improvise far too much.
Don't get me wrong; the movie wasn't all that bad. But for the most part, I was disappointed. crying
*NC*
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:50 am
I noticed that the movie was a little messed up but I still LOVED it.
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:14 am
Noctis_Crucis So how did you guys like the movie?? I didn't like it all that much. My reasons:
1. It jumped too much, like too much at a time. ie. from dream, to quidditch, to tents to school etc. 2. The director missed a lot of stuff and screwed a lot of stuff up. i.e. quidditch game, the Yule Ball etc. 3. Krum is a bit out of character, along with Cedric
I have to disagree with you for the most part.. expect for the first thing that you addressed. In the beginning, it did jump a lot, and I was actually quite surprised. But, if you think about it, in the beginning chapters there were two vital parts.. the Riddle House/Dream and the aftermath of the World Cup. They spent the most time on those two in the beginning, so I did not think that it was too bad.
I don't think that the director messed anything up. The book stands alone, but I think that he did a terrific job in putting the words of the novel into a film. I sure as hell could not have done that great of job myself. There was no Quidditch, but if you think about it.. the World Cup was the only game, and it really wasn't that important to the plot itself. It just wasn't. And you thought he messed up the Yule Ball? Hell, I thought it was perfect.
Krum, I didn't think, was out of character at all. I mean, he is supposed to look pissed off most of the time, and he doesn't talk much. Cedric was perfect. Just perfect. The whole thing when Harry tells him about the dragons and then he tells Harry about the egg and then they take the cup together.. it was amazing.
The movie is not going to always have every single detail that the book does. That would be too long of a movie and cost way too much. For how long the book was and how many different subplots it had, I think that they tackled it superbly.
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:28 am
comfortably_dumb Noctis_Crucis So how did you guys like the movie?? I didn't like it all that much. My reasons:
1. It jumped too much, like too much at a time. ie. from dream, to quidditch, to tents to school etc. 2. The director missed a lot of stuff and screwed a lot of stuff up. i.e. quidditch game, the Yule Ball etc. 3. Krum is a bit out of character, along with Cedric
I have to disagree with you for the most part.. expect for the first thing that you addressed. In the beginning, it did jump a lot, and I was actually quite surprised. But, if you think about it, in the beginning chapters there were two vital parts.. the Riddle House/Dream and the aftermath of the World Cup. They spent the most time on those two in the beginning, so I did not think that it was too bad.
I don't think that the director messed anything up. The book stands alone, but I think that he did a terrific job in putting the words of the novel into a film. I sure as hell could not have done that great of job myself. There was no Quidditch, but if you think about it.. the World Cup was the only game, and it really wasn't that important to the plot itself. It just wasn't. And you thought he messed up the Yule Ball? Hell, I thought it was perfect.
Krum, I didn't think, was out of character at all. I mean, he is supposed to look pissed off most of the time, and he doesn't talk much. Cedric was perfect. Just perfect. The whole thing when Harry tells him about the dragons and then he tells Harry about the egg and then they take the cup together.. it was amazing.
The movie is not going to always have every single detail that the book does. That would be too long of a movie and cost way too much. For how long the book was and how many different subplots it had, I think that they tackled it superbly. Yeah, it wasn't particularly my favorite movie. I think the director could have placed the plot beginning closer toward the book. I mean, it wouldn't have been hard to put some Quidditch into the movie and have the kids run into the woods when the tents were aflame. And it was a mistake to have Harry faint in the middle of all of the burnt tents becuase naturally he would've died if everything was scorched to pieces.
I did feel that he messed the Yule Ball up. When the band came to play, at first I was like; "This is awesome!" and then I thought about the book and I'm like, "well, hell, this isn't like the book at all! This is Harry Potter!" Sorry, but whne I think of HP, I don't think of screaming students jumping up and down.
Cedric and Krum were a bit messed up I thought. Krum is supposed to be kind to Hermione; not only physical. She is supposed to like him back, not be reluctant to go over to his place over the summer. And Cedric--wow, he was a crabby a*****e! I thought he was supposed to be kind!
And also, the beginning seemed to jump far too much! I mean, the Beauxbatons and Durmstrang arrived pronto, and it was like: "well what the heck? they're already here?" And I was disappointed about the whole no-Winky-Dobby thing. It was a put down. crying
I know you couldn't have done a better job than this director, but that is because you haven't gone to school for directing! (or have you? stare ) But comparing it against Alfonso and JK, I thought the movie was a bit disappointing.
But what-ev. I guess I was just expecting better directing. I guess for someone who is working the movie off of JK's book he did alright, but I still think he tried to exchange too many of JK's ideas to his. But oh well, what's done is done!
What do you guys else think? *NC*
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:39 am
I actually do not think that anyone else could have done this well. I mean, to have a 734 page book and put it into 2 1/2 hours while staying as true to the book as possible is a very hard task.. and I think that he did a great job.
With the Weird Sisters.. that was how it was. They are a rock band. Do you think they would just be sitting around listening to the sweet music like they were playing Mozart?
And the whole thing with the House-Elves was not important at all.. it was just a time for us to get to know Hermione a little bit better. In fact, in the book, I found it pointless and it didn't seem to end. Sure, it would have been nice to see Dobby.. but think about it. Would you rather have all three tasks, the Yule Ball, and the graveyard scene or just some house-elves running around in the kitchens?
I know that they messed up the aftermath of the Quidditch World Cup, but if you think about it.. if they went into the woods that would be a whole different location and thousands of dollars more added to the millions that they've already spent.
Of course it is not going to be a perfect mirror of the books.. but it got pretty damn close.
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:01 pm
Good point, good point....but who cares if the movie lasted 3 1/2 hours? I would have rather have the house elf part in there along with everything else and have it 3 1/2 hours long rather than cut points from the book and make it 2 1/2 hours long. Also, he cut out Ludo Bagman and the Minister completely from the movies! Hellllooooo.
I am just pointing out that I think he could've done better. The whole movie seemed to move far too fast--thats what you DON'T want in a movie. Sure he cut it to 2 1/2 hours--but who cares? It moved too fast! You can't have a 734 page book be sliced into only 2 and a half hours!!!
You have to admit that the movie went wayyyy too fast.
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:22 pm
i really like it, but yeah, i do agree dat dere r sum parts i dun't like about it: 1.It doesn't show draco dat much 2.Cedric died at da end 3.Harry didn't even defeat voldemort. just escaped.
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:40 pm
Well, Cedric was supposed to die, and Harry wasn't supposed to defeat Voldemort. He was only supposed to escape. As for Draco, lol, let him rot lol. But his scene as the ferret was a classic!!!! lol rofl
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:46 pm
After the load of crap they pawned off as the third movie, you have no right to complain. I thought they did a good job of condesing a 798 page book into an acceptable 2.5 hour movie.
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:13 am
I posted on another board and I'm just copying and pasting...
Good Points/Things I Love: -The Priori Incantatem was very good in relation to the book. -Yule Ball was pretty accurate to the book, but I thought there were chick singers, not male. -You get to see Harry be molested while naked by Myrtle -Hagrid dances in the boobs of Madam Maxine *hahaha* -The portrail of voldemort was fantastic. -The events were really good even though they each added/lacked something listed in the book, they were portrayed excellently.
Bad Points/Things I Disliked: -Dursleys Entirely Removed sad *not really bad I just like them* -No Veela's -No Explanation to Rita Skeeter's super inside scoops, so she was never sold out as an unregistered animagi <--- I think thats wrong. -Krum and Hermoine Nailed as lovers after the first event -Someone makes a slam on Ron for commenting on wanting Victors autograph , however the only person mentioned wanting an autograph was Nigel and he wanted Harrys. -Harry's wrist was slit across, and the mark is down. -When wormtail cuts off his arm he's all, Oh joy my arm is cut off and my master has returned ahaha, no pain for me. -Victor lacks a limp -No sphinx -When Harry's talking int he fire Ron comes down, after going back up you see Ron cross a little bridge thing, how did Ron not see Harry talking tothe fire -The very beggining of the movie seems so urgent and rushed from Hermoine waking Ron and Harry up till the first event. -Dumbledore is a drunk, well he slurs his words a lot that is.
Overall: It was very good given the time constraints, I honestly have no real complaints, the things that were left out or added didn't affect the overall mood. I'd go see it again.
Oops my mistake. I thought duck footed meant they walked funny cause you know... ducks walk funny.
Another thing I'm in love with from the movie is George and Fred's attempts to get their names into the Goblet of Fire
A few more cons. -Hermoine was show offy in that scene "Duh" -Neville was the one who got the gillyweed, not Dobby -No house elfs -At the priori incantatem the old man didn't come out of the wand -Cedric died, but he was so pretty *fangirl now* Ok I know thats how the book goes but what dif will that make they change stuff anyways. -Percy wasn't anywhere to be seen and he was supposed to be all up in Crouches business taking care of stuff.
I know its a big book and stuffs. I loved the movie don't get me wrong, I'm just saying little things I wouldn't have expected gone, and Of course it doesnt take away from the movie. I was like half asleep when I typed that anyways. MORE THINGS I LOVE!!!!
-Draco Ferret in pants -Destroying cedrics death for the girls in front of us who wouldnt shut the ******** up and had obviously never read the book. -Harry getting bit by the owl -Grindylocks They were so pretty
Erg... speaking of the underwater scene, wasn't Harry unable to talk because he was now all fishy like and couldnt protect himself fromt he grindylocks?
Another thing that I thought was important, that was left out, was the seperating of the teachers and staff to go spy and round together groups like the trolls.
They also just kinda cut Karkaroff out of the end of the movie, didn't explain that he ran off. sad
I still love the movie best, but I'm biased, this is my fave book of the set as well.
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:22 am
Brainwash I posted on another board and I'm just copying and pasting... Good Points/Things I Love: -The Priori Incantatem was very good in relation to the book. -Yule Ball was pretty accurate to the book, but I thought there were chick singers, not male. -You get to see Harry be molested while naked by Myrtle -Hagrid dances in the boobs of Madam Maxine *hahaha* -The portrail of voldemort was fantastic. -The events were really good even though they each added/lacked something listed in the book, they were portrayed excellently. Ah yes, those were good I guess. I just can't see Hogwarts students jumping up and down at the concert lol...guess JK made the picture in my mind of goody-good Hoggy students 4laugh But yes, Voldemort was awesome.Quote: Bad Points/Things I Disliked: -Dursleys Entirely Removed sad *not really bad I just like them* -No Veela's -No Explanation to Rita Skeeter's super inside scoops, so she was never sold out as an unregistered animagi <--- I think thats wrong. -Krum and Hermoine Nailed as lovers after the first event -Someone makes a slam on Ron for commenting on wanting Victors autograph , however the only person mentioned wanting an autograph was Nigel and he wanted Harrys. -Harry's wrist was slit across, and the mark is down. -When wormtail cuts off his arm he's all, Oh joy my arm is cut off and my master has returned ahaha, no pain for me. -Victor lacks a limp -No sphinx -When Harry's talking int he fire Ron comes down, after going back up you see Ron cross a little bridge thing, how did Ron not see Harry talking tothe fire -The very beggining of the movie seems so urgent and rushed from Hermoine waking Ron and Harry up till the first event. -Dumbledore is a drunk, well he slurs his words a lot that is. I think that the lack of explaining Rita's background was a disappointment as well. The director really should've added those crucial parts in. And anyway, it would've made for excellent humor if there was a scene with Rita-the-beetle in Divination or the Yule Ball garden and Harry and Ron trying to swat the bug. Also, I really think the sphinx would've made the maze a bit more interesting. Along with the enchanted sparkles where everything flips upside down. As for the cut thing, I don't think it matters. (The directer may have made it vertical to make it less likely to think that Harry was cutting himself. Maybe, just maybe *shrugs*)
Also, with the missing houselves and Winky, it kind of distracted the mood of Hermione. I mean, she was supposed to be very opinionated in this movie whatwith sticking her nose up about Krum's fangirls, the SPEW, and the whole International Cooperation. None of that really was accented. But I s'pose it doesn't really matter, but it sure would've been nice.
I think I am going to see it this next weekend again anyway, so I can watch it with my mom this time. 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 5:54 am
xtc.laoz i really like it, but yeah, i do agree dat dere r sum parts i dun't like about it: 1.It doesn't show draco dat much 2.Cedric died at da end 3.Harry didn't even defeat voldemort. just escaped. Well, I don't mean to be rude or anything.. But those things just gotta have to happen. Cedric must die in the end.. And Harry.. That was right. Maybe he'll defeat Voldie in the last book..
As for Draco.. hm.. He doesn't really have much significance in the 4th book.. In the 6th movie, maybe he'll be featured a lot since he's got a huge part there. But I loved him being a ferret! So cute! domokun
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:24 am
I thought it was great, and my problems with it are mainly the things that have been brought up, but two things that annoyed me were:
-Barty Crouch Sr.'s voice is so high it made me happy when they found the body. He's supposed to be authoritative, but when he says "You are no son of mine" it's completely lacking because it's so squeally. -Nobody mentions that Barty Crouch Jr. DIES
However, the caldron of Voldemort turning into his robes and the whole thing we he pulls the masks off was so evil. Plus, the first task was done with great effects. And the way the second event was done was a like a painting the area was so beautiful. Not to mention you get to see Fleur in a bathing suit.
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:15 am
The 4th movie was muuuuuuuch better than the 3rd one O_o; *hates the 3rd movie* if you ask me it was the best movie of them all
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:51 pm
Why did Cedic have to die in the end though!??!?!! crying
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