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Luck-In-Spades
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:24 pm


In some doofy Wicca thread in the GD...

aNeeA wrote:
About wiccans, I want to know more. This is called a religion right? It seems to be more like a sect... But I need info to say that
You practice vudu?

Me:
Fantastic questions, actually.

Wicca is a religion. The religion is remarkably new, actually. On a whole, that is. It is based off ancient pagan and NATURE-worshipping religions, and just brought to a nice modern whole, mostly by a fellow by the last name Gardner. There seems to be another person who has a take on wicca, with the last name Alexander, but I am not sure as much about when they becan their take.

A sect is a division of a religion. Catholicism, Protestant, Jehova's Witness, Morman, etc, are sects of Christianity. Gardnerian and Alexandrian are sects of Wicca.

Do you mean cult? That tends to be the word often associated with wicca/witches. A cult, as most people tend to define it, is a false religion often of fanatics and follows around a central person and acts to make the leader's beliefs known. So, Wicca is not a cult, by that definition, either. (Please note, there are many definitions for the word "cult," and one would actually make ALL religions a "cult," so it depends how you look at it.)

Wiccans worship nature, and often a god AND goddess figure, or other ancient mythological figures. For thousands of years, as evidenced by artwork and artifacts, there was a central goddess worshipped by almost all people. The curves of a woman, similar to seeds and fruit, the circle of the moon, etc. were related to nature, and the woman's ability to bear children made her a source of life. Therefore, the goddesses (all kinds of variations from different peoples) is the deity of nature, and why pagans (and now modern wiccans) like to worship a female deity. However, it is very important to not forget about the god figure as well, in order to keep balance.

Voodoo... the definition from dictionary.com:
1. A religion practiced chiefly in Caribbean countries, especially Haiti, syncretized from Roman Catholic ritual elements and the animism and magic of slaves from West Africa, in which a supreme God rules a large pantheon of local and tutelary deities, deified ancestors, and saints, who communicate with believers in dreams, trances, and ritual possessions. Also called vodoun.
2. A charm, fetish, spell, or curse holding magic power for adherents of voodoo.
3. A practitioner, priest, or priestess of voodoo.
4. Deceptive or delusive nonsense.

Well, most wiccans I know are not from the Carbbean (although it is possible). Although, by definition #1, I do see similarities. Communicating with others in dreams and trances, but not possessions, is common amongst witches (remember, witchcraft and wicca are different things) and I imagine some wiccans, too. A reverence for animals is also very popular amonst wiccans/witches, as many try to find their guiding/spirit/totem animal (mine are a white stag and an owl).

However, any witch/wiccan who tries to curse people with their magick is not one we prefer to associate with. There are good and bad believers (as with any religion), but I am very proud to say the vast majority of us are good. Most people-manipulating spells dont' even work, as it would take the most highly practiced witch to be able to manipulate a person, and if someone was that powerful, they would certainly not wish to manipulate a person for their own desire.

I hope this answers your questions. Wicca is really a peaceful religion, and is dominantly a desire for people from this era wishing to believe in the same things that ancient people believed in. Religion really shouldn't have to be something that evolves to modern beliefs to accomodate new ways of thought. Loving nature, as it is rather everlasting and pretty constant, is simple and desirable to many.

Religions can be wonderful things, as they inspire hope, love, and community. I believe that Christianity teaches wonderful things, but sometimes the leaders of each division can teach bad things, and create closed-minded and very hateful people. Any religion can do this, and it is a shame.

I believe that by understanding one another, all religions can get along. I hope this post has been informative and helpful.
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I just wanted to share this experience, and wish to open the table for others to share any experiences of their own where they have helped educate people who seek to further learn and understand.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:39 pm


very nice! That is a very common question we get and that is extremely helpful!! *hugs*

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:44 am


Yes, that was definitely a good way of putting it. THough one might take note that Witchcraft is often part of Wicca and some Wiccans often opt to call themselves Witches. Also, My mom is straight from Haiti (she immagrated herewhen she was 11) and I don't believe she practices Voodoo (though I'm aware it's pretty popula on her island). In fact I didn't even know how popular it was in Haiti until I started looking into Wicca. So I'm haitian.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:30 am


I like it... it was very well thought out and put together....

Yumiko_Yoshihana


Luck-In-Spades
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:52 am


Sweetypop
Yes, that was definitely a good way of putting it. THough one might take note that Witchcraft is often part of Wicca and some Wiccans often opt to call themselves Witches. Also, My mom is straight from Haiti (she immagrated herewhen she was 11) and I don't believe she practices Voodoo (though I'm aware it's pretty popula on her island). In fact I didn't even know how popular it was in Haiti until I started looking into Wicca. So I'm haitian.


Yes... I think I was just so overloaded with wanting to explain everything, but not overdo it, that I didn't exactly mention well that some wiccans are witches, and some witches are wiccans, but not all witches are wiccans >.< Or something strange that you could make a venn Diagram about ^,^;

Glad that people enjoyed the post. Oh, and the girl posted back today, saying she felt she understood a bit better, and respects the religion =) There are understanding people in this world ^,^
PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:43 am


**Applauds**
Great job! Haha, that's awsome. ^-^ You surely know what you're talking about. xd And you actually found a good dictionary, I only find evil ones that haven't a clue what they are talking about. xd I have proved dictionaries wrong in their definitions before, you'd be amazed some of the bull crap I've found. xd

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Ivy_tsuki

PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:46 am


hola bumpies
PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:32 pm


Dictionaries anger me. ><
I once looked up 'Wicca' in a dictionary (When I was just getting interested) and it refered to it as a 'devil worshiping cult' or something like that... I also looked up 'Witch' and it described something like The Wizard Of Oz
O_o;
I, personally, find the steriotipical image of a witch as an insult. I am not:
1. Female
2. Green-skinned / wart covered
3. Someone who wears nothing but black robes
4. Someone who can shoot electricity out of my fingertips and turn people into animals (As fun as that'd be 4laugh ).

Someone needs to set these people straight! It'd be nice to find a television series about a group of real witches... It would be entertaining AND true to life! I mean, you have shows about teens trying to live through highschool... why not add a Wiccan element to it? I think it would make a great show. 3nodding

...
...
... Omg... I just rambled... O_o

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LaLaLogic

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:44 pm


That was good.

Another point that's good to mention when people bring up the "bad witch" stuff is that most Wiccans and Witches believe as a fundamental part of their religion that anything you do, any energy you put out, comes back to you and if you did do evil it would harm you. So, in Wicca there is nothing to gain from evil.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:52 pm


Veryveryvery good point....alot of people forget to include that part in there explanations.  

Ducky_18


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:01 pm


David Alanjea
Dictionaries anger me. ><
I once looked up 'Wicca' in a dictionary (When I was just getting interested) and it refered to it as a 'devil worshiping cult' or something like that... I also looked up 'Witch' and it described something like The Wizard Of Oz
O_o;
I, personally, find the steriotipical image of a witch as an insult. I am not:
1. Female
2. Green-skinned / wart covered
3. Someone who wears nothing but black robes
4. Someone who can shoot electricity out of my fingertips and turn people into animals (As fun as that'd be 4laugh ).

Someone needs to set these people straight! It'd be nice to find a television series about a group of real witches... It would be entertaining AND true to life! I mean, you have shows about teens trying to live through highschool... why not add a Wiccan element to it? I think it would make a great show. 3nodding

...
...
... Omg... I just rambled... O_o


1. Female=i'm gay if that counts
2. Green-skinned / wart covered=last time i was green i accidentally ate some mold off of a peice of bread
3. Someone who wears nothing but black robes=I do't even like black shirts
4. Someone who can shoot electricity out of my fingertips and turn people into animals (As fun as that'd be 4laugh ).=that would be cool. i think i'd turn my english teacher into a turkey every time he started rambling in class.

biggrin xd biggrin xd
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:57 am


David Alanjea
I, personally, find the steriotipical image of a witch as an insult. I am not:
1. Female
2. Green-skinned / wart covered
3. Someone who wears nothing but black robes
4. Someone who can shoot electricity out of my fingertips and turn people into animals (As fun as that'd be 4laugh ).


Speak for yourself... oh wait, i'm not a woman either. My bad. blaugh

I think the most important thing is that you know who you are. If people tell you otherwise, educate them. And if that doesn't work, electricute them with your fingers rofl .

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:11 am


xd rofl rofl xd
@Avalonwatcher: And then there are those annoying kids that just deserve hampster-dom. 3nodding

@Smells_Like_Cabbage: lol yeah. *Shakes a finger at you in a mennacing manner*
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 3:12 pm


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:31 am


David Alanjea
Dictionaries anger me. ><
I once looked up 'Wicca' in a dictionary (When I was just getting interested) and it refered to it as a 'devil worshiping cult' or something like that... I also looked up 'Witch' and it described something like The Wizard Of Oz
O_o;
I, personally, find the steriotipical image of a witch as an insult. I am not:
1. Female
2. Green-skinned / wart covered
3. Someone who wears nothing but black robes
4. Someone who can shoot electricity out of my fingertips and turn people into animals (As fun as that'd be 4laugh ).

Someone needs to set these people straight! It'd be nice to find a television series about a group of real witches... It would be entertaining AND true to life! I mean, you have shows about teens trying to live through highschool... why not add a Wiccan element to it? I think it would make a great show. 3nodding

...
...
... Omg... I just rambled... O_o
its ok we all love to ramble.

1. nope
2.i had a cluster of planters warts on me heel once. (dont not do anything about it. over time they will spread all over your foot!!!hooray l.iquid nitrogen and ductape. its like a liquid nitrogen spray or something. im not sure0.0teh rambleness)
3.that applies to my friends.(punks, goths, geeks, insane ppl A.K.A. multiple personalities.)
4.not the animals part, but the lightining. when i youched a penny. after a screwed up making a homemade tazor(i saw a video^^)
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