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 Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:47 am
This question is for people who have fight/sparring experience. (note that there is a difference between the two)
I'm just curious, if any one here uses their stances when fight, and/or sparring. Now i don't mean super rigid like when practicing them in class, but use them as appropriate.
Like me, i'll use stances to close distance quicker, or to make distance quickly, but most of the time i'm still in a classic fighting stance (which technically means i'm still in hachigi dachi...but still)
i remember, i was sparring w/ a friend in the back yard, he did a monster of a kick to my thigh (got it right on the nerve too... crying ) i knew i wouldn't last much longer, so i sunk down into our sanchin dachi stance, and delivered a picture perfect punch (seriously, it was done just like in class and warm ups, stance, chambered my other hand and everything.) about a second after the punch, my friend called the fight, because he couldn't breath, and i sighed in relief because i couldn't feel my leg any more. but i was extremely proud of myself for that, though i know some thing that perfect probably wont happen ever again.
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:22 pm
sekchi-toguchi This question is for people who have fight/sparring experience. (note that there is a difference between the two) I'm just curious, if any one here uses their stances when fight, and/or sparring. Now i don't mean super rigid like when practicing them in class, but use them as appropriate. Like me, i'll use stances to close distance quicker, or to make distance quickly, but most of the time i'm still in a classic fighting stance (which technically means i'm still in hachigi dachi...but still) i remember, i was sparring w/ a friend in the back yard, he did a monster of a kick to my thigh (got it right on the nerve too... crying ) i knew i wouldn't last much longer, so i sunk down into our sanchin dachi stance, and delivered a picture perfect punch (seriously, it was done just like in class and warm ups, stance, chambered my other hand and everything.) about a second after the punch, my friend called the fight, because he couldn't breath, and i sighed in relief because i couldn't feel my leg any more. but i was extremely proud of myself for that, though i know some thing that perfect probably wont happen ever again. I do it in kumite, but I don't do it in real life. Real life, if you break into a sanchin dachi or a kamae, people are gonna laugh at you. That's why I try to intimidate my opponent in a real life situation, by staring straight into his eyes, yell as loud as I can and angrily, and do anything that makes me look pissed, while in actuality, I'm very calm and composed.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:50 am
Nikku Momochi sekchi-toguchi This question is for people who have fight/sparring experience. (note that there is a difference between the two) I'm just curious, if any one here uses their stances when fight, and/or sparring. Now i don't mean super rigid like when practicing them in class, but use them as appropriate. Like me, i'll use stances to close distance quicker, or to make distance quickly, but most of the time i'm still in a classic fighting stance (which technically means i'm still in hachigi dachi...but still) i remember, i was sparring w/ a friend in the back yard, he did a monster of a kick to my thigh (got it right on the nerve too... crying ) i knew i wouldn't last much longer, so i sunk down into our sanchin dachi stance, and delivered a picture perfect punch (seriously, it was done just like in class and warm ups, stance, chambered my other hand and everything.) about a second after the punch, my friend called the fight, because he couldn't breath, and i sighed in relief because i couldn't feel my leg any more. but i was extremely proud of myself for that, though i know some thing that perfect probably wont happen ever again. I do it in kumite, but I don't do it in real life. Real life, if you break into a sanchin dachi or a kamae, people are gonna laugh at you. That's why I try to intimidate my opponent in a real life situation, by staring straight into his eyes, yell as loud as I can and angrily, and do anything that makes me look pissed, while in actuality, I'm very calm and composed. no, don't go out of your way to get into the stances, use them as they should be, and flow into them. i fought a kid once, roundhouse to the knee, set my foot down in zenkustu(sp?) dachi, and followed up with a punch and finished by choking him out. (supposedly he did ninjistu) stare
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:16 pm
I use a zen sometimes to close in distance. I use kokustu-dach too, but I really don't think about stance besides the initial stance. Took me a while just to think about my stances.
Question, do you ever hop when you spar? I've caught myself doing it sometimes. I know it's really bad, but if I only do it once do you think that's bad? If it's a constant thing it will give my opponent a chance to knock me down, but what if it's only once......can they knock me down with that?
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:21 pm
sekchi-toguchi Nikku Momochi sekchi-toguchi This question is for people who have fight/sparring experience. (note that there is a difference between the two) I'm just curious, if any one here uses their stances when fight, and/or sparring. Now i don't mean super rigid like when practicing them in class, but use them as appropriate. Like me, i'll use stances to close distance quicker, or to make distance quickly, but most of the time i'm still in a classic fighting stance (which technically means i'm still in hachigi dachi...but still) i remember, i was sparring w/ a friend in the back yard, he did a monster of a kick to my thigh (got it right on the nerve too... crying ) i knew i wouldn't last much longer, so i sunk down into our sanchin dachi stance, and delivered a picture perfect punch (seriously, it was done just like in class and warm ups, stance, chambered my other hand and everything.) about a second after the punch, my friend called the fight, because he couldn't breath, and i sighed in relief because i couldn't feel my leg any more. but i was extremely proud of myself for that, though i know some thing that perfect probably wont happen ever again. I do it in kumite, but I don't do it in real life. Real life, if you break into a sanchin dachi or a kamae, people are gonna laugh at you. That's why I try to intimidate my opponent in a real life situation, by staring straight into his eyes, yell as loud as I can and angrily, and do anything that makes me look pissed, while in actuality, I'm very calm and composed. no, don't go out of your way to get into the stances, use them as they should be, and flow into them. i fought a kid once, roundhouse to the knee, set my foot down in zenkustu(sp?) dachi, and followed up with a punch and finished by choking him out. (supposedly he did ninjistu) stare If they see the stance, their awareness increases. If they don't see the stance, you can do almost anything just by surprising them.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:46 pm
Nikku Momochi sekchi-toguchi Nikku Momochi sekchi-toguchi This question is for people who have fight/sparring experience. (note that there is a difference between the two) I'm just curious, if any one here uses their stances when fight, and/or sparring. Now i don't mean super rigid like when practicing them in class, but use them as appropriate. Like me, i'll use stances to close distance quicker, or to make distance quickly, but most of the time i'm still in a classic fighting stance (which technically means i'm still in hachigi dachi...but still) i remember, i was sparring w/ a friend in the back yard, he did a monster of a kick to my thigh (got it right on the nerve too... crying ) i knew i wouldn't last much longer, so i sunk down into our sanchin dachi stance, and delivered a picture perfect punch (seriously, it was done just like in class and warm ups, stance, chambered my other hand and everything.) about a second after the punch, my friend called the fight, because he couldn't breath, and i sighed in relief because i couldn't feel my leg any more. but i was extremely proud of myself for that, though i know some thing that perfect probably wont happen ever again. I do it in kumite, but I don't do it in real life. Real life, if you break into a sanchin dachi or a kamae, people are gonna laugh at you. That's why I try to intimidate my opponent in a real life situation, by staring straight into his eyes, yell as loud as I can and angrily, and do anything that makes me look pissed, while in actuality, I'm very calm and composed. no, don't go out of your way to get into the stances, use them as they should be, and flow into them. i fought a kid once, roundhouse to the knee, set my foot down in zenkustu(sp?) dachi, and followed up with a punch and finished by choking him out. (supposedly he did ninjistu) stare If they see the stance, their awareness increases. If they don't see the stance, you can do almost anything just by surprising them. they have to be able to recognize the stance as a stance, and not just putting your foot down in front of you. the stances were created and taught for a reason after all. if they see you try a round house kick, they might get suspicious you have some sort of training too, but does that mean you won't use it?
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:03 pm
sekchi-toguchi Nikku Momochi sekchi-toguchi Nikku Momochi sekchi-toguchi This question is for people who have fight/sparring experience. (note that there is a difference between the two) I'm just curious, if any one here uses their stances when fight, and/or sparring. Now i don't mean super rigid like when practicing them in class, but use them as appropriate. Like me, i'll use stances to close distance quicker, or to make distance quickly, but most of the time i'm still in a classic fighting stance (which technically means i'm still in hachigi dachi...but still) i remember, i was sparring w/ a friend in the back yard, he did a monster of a kick to my thigh (got it right on the nerve too... crying ) i knew i wouldn't last much longer, so i sunk down into our sanchin dachi stance, and delivered a picture perfect punch (seriously, it was done just like in class and warm ups, stance, chambered my other hand and everything.) about a second after the punch, my friend called the fight, because he couldn't breath, and i sighed in relief because i couldn't feel my leg any more. but i was extremely proud of myself for that, though i know some thing that perfect probably wont happen ever again. I do it in kumite, but I don't do it in real life. Real life, if you break into a sanchin dachi or a kamae, people are gonna laugh at you. That's why I try to intimidate my opponent in a real life situation, by staring straight into his eyes, yell as loud as I can and angrily, and do anything that makes me look pissed, while in actuality, I'm very calm and composed. no, don't go out of your way to get into the stances, use them as they should be, and flow into them. i fought a kid once, roundhouse to the knee, set my foot down in zenkustu(sp?) dachi, and followed up with a punch and finished by choking him out. (supposedly he did ninjistu) stare If they see the stance, their awareness increases. If they don't see the stance, you can do almost anything just by surprising them. they have to be able to recognize the stance as a stance, and not just putting your foot down in front of you. the stances were created and taught for a reason after all. if they see you try a round house kick, they might get suspicious you have some sort of training too, but does that mean you won't use it? No, but if you don't go into a kamae when a confrontation arises, they wouldn't know whether or not you have training and the element of surprise is on your side. I'm not saying that you shouldn't use stances what so ever in a real fight, I'm just saying that when you're first confronted, and there's no chance of talking yourself out of it, going into a kamae won't help you to surprise your opponent because your opponent could probably tell that you've had budo training and their awareness increases. Now, if you had your opponent in an arm lock or you had to use a stance to execute the technique, then I totally agree, go into a stance. But if you're just starting off in a fight, I say no.
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:11 pm
you're thinking to rigidly, i never said anything so formal or rigid as that. simply, just to transition into your stance as needed, (shiko, neko, zenkustu dachi, possibly even renoji dachi) and then transition back to your regular fighting stance. use the stances as they are intended to be used, use nekowashi dachi to make distance, use zenkustu dachi and shiko dachi to close distance, and move in and out of them as it is comfortable.
i know that it does take a lot of training just to get comfortable doing the stances in class, let alone being able to use them in a fight.
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:15 pm
Average Anime Wierdo I use a zen sometimes to close in distance. I use kokustu-dach too, but I really don't think about stance besides the initial stance. Took me a while just to think about my stances. Question, do you ever hop when you spar? I've caught myself doing it sometimes. I know it's really bad, but if I only do it once do you think that's bad? If it's a constant thing it will give my opponent a chance to knock me down, but what if it's only once......can they knock me down with that? shuffling, some people have mixed feelings on that, personally i don't do it, nor like it. well, if they had the reaction time and presence of mind to take advantage of that one time, then yes they could, but it's improbable, mostly because even some one who constantly shuffles is still hard to sweep, because u have to focus on your own movements as well as theirs. the reason i don't like shuffling is because it's to much extra movement, and will ware you out way to fast.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:25 pm
sekchi-toguchi Average Anime Wierdo I use a zen sometimes to close in distance. I use kokustu-dach too, but I really don't think about stance besides the initial stance. Took me a while just to think about my stances. Question, do you ever hop when you spar? I've caught myself doing it sometimes. I know it's really bad, but if I only do it once do you think that's bad? If it's a constant thing it will give my opponent a chance to knock me down, but what if it's only once......can they knock me down with that? shuffling, some people have mixed feelings on that, personally i don't do it, nor like it. well, if they had the reaction time and presence of mind to take advantage of that one time, then yes they could, but it's improbable, mostly because even some one who constantly shuffles is still hard to sweep, because u have to focus on your own movements as well as theirs. the reason i don't like shuffling is because it's to much extra movement, and will ware you out way to fast. I see.........shuffling is tiring but if you only shuffle in a stragetic manner you could make your opponent a lot more tired
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:20 pm
Average Anime Wierdo sekchi-toguchi Average Anime Wierdo I use a zen sometimes to close in distance. I use kokustu-dach too, but I really don't think about stance besides the initial stance. Took me a while just to think about my stances. Question, do you ever hop when you spar? I've caught myself doing it sometimes. I know it's really bad, but if I only do it once do you think that's bad? If it's a constant thing it will give my opponent a chance to knock me down, but what if it's only once......can they knock me down with that? shuffling, some people have mixed feelings on that, personally i don't do it, nor like it. well, if they had the reaction time and presence of mind to take advantage of that one time, then yes they could, but it's improbable, mostly because even some one who constantly shuffles is still hard to sweep, because u have to focus on your own movements as well as theirs. the reason i don't like shuffling is because it's to much extra movement, and will ware you out way to fast. I see.........shuffling is tiring but if you only shuffle in a stragetic manner you could make your opponent a lot more tired i've fought shufflers, if i just keep my feet on the ground, they'll tire long before i do, and that's all there really is to it, let them tire themselves out, superfluous movement just makes things easier for your opponent to read you. for example, if you shuffle, you have a choice when attacking, either stop to plant your feet (a huge telegraph) or attack while shuffling (drains power from the technique) maybe this is just me, but i normally try to spar with guys bigger than me, and if i choose to, i can stand and slug it out with them because i know my body can take it, and if it turns into a slug fest thats when you find a stance and get into it, so if you punch me while shuffling chances are i'll just smile at you.
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:30 pm
I'm a chronic bouncer when it comes to fighting. I'm prone to dropping low when point sparring and since almost anything down low has a stance name in our school technically yes I guess I do. When we actually go for full out fighting against each other I normally don't though
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:32 pm
ugh, i hate point sparring, did it once, never again.
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:38 am
sekchi-toguchi ugh, i hate point sparring, did it once, never again. So do I, that's why my friend and I spar without a point system when he comes down to my town.
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:44 am
In the dojo I use my stances but out in the open say at school I use like a baseball stance so that 1 i don't look like a freak and 2 it's more confortable so u can be a lot mor lighter on ya feet
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