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Origami Dragon Priestess

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:43 pm


I don't have much knowledge on the mythology of either the Greek or Roman pantheons. I have just enough to know that they are basically the same pantheon just with different names, but that is not always the case. So I was hoping that someone out there could help me with deciphering the differences between the gods and goddesses of these two pantheons and clarify what exactly they rule over.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:05 pm


Hmm...I will have to do some research and get back to you. I used to know more about them.

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gorramKayna
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:02 pm


Me too. I'll be back with at least a basic list, unless someone beats me to it.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:03 pm


Oh no no no. They are not basically the same pantheon.

The Romans had a pantheon already before hand, They just molded some of the Greek's deities with their already existing ones.

Most of the Roman's deities had to do with everything they did, From the God of grass to the Goddess of feces. Greeks did this too, in a way. But in a diiffereant way.. It's hard to say.

This being the Greek pantheon: X

And this being the Roman pantheon: X

You see for your self the difference of these two pantheons.

You'll see some similarities starting at the main deities of both pantheons, But it sort of splits off from there.

Namikikyo
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gorramKayna
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:55 pm


You beat me to it. I'll have to peruse those links. I don't think she meant all of it though. Very few people know the whole of either pantheon. Most only know the main Olypians and thier Roman counterparts. And while they may not be identical, those specific gods certainly corespond closer to each other than any other pantheons I've come across.

I'd like to talk about why that idea exists too. As you said, the Roman's at least merged a great many of the main Greek Deities with those of thier own Pantheon. Some were adjusted more dramatically though and some few were lifted whole (excepting names). The Romans had a grand tradition of picking up ideas (including Gods) from the people they encountered or conquered. to my knowledge they were fairly flexible about such things. They admired the Greeks in particular and in their early days, they modeled many aspects of thier society off of the Greeks, mearging it with some elements of their Etruscan heritage. This is not to say that they were identical of course. Just heavily influenced.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:08 pm


Sorry for the double post Namikikyo but I just found this on the list of Roman Gods you linked.

Quote:
The Hellenic Pantheon: The blending of Latin with Hellenic elements was extreme, and produced a long series of Divinities with virtually identical Attributes, and two names, a Latin one and a Greek one. The two pantheons are nearly isomorphic in fact, from Jupiter/Zeus and Juno/Hera on down to the most obscure of local Spirits. In general, it can be assumed that any Hellenic Deity was acknowledged and revered by Romans as well.


Just to mention. wink

gorramKayna
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Namikikyo
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:48 pm


gorramKayna
Sorry for the double post Namikikyo but I just found this on the list of Roman Gods you linked.

Quote:
The Hellenic Pantheon: The blending of Latin with Hellenic elements was extreme, and produced a long series of Divinities with virtually identical Attributes, and two names, a Latin one and a Greek one. The two pantheons are nearly isomorphic in fact, from Jupiter/Zeus and Juno/Hera on down to the most obscure of local Spirits. In general, it can be assumed that any Hellenic Deity was acknowledged and revered by Romans as well.


Just to mention. wink


Whoa. How did I miss that? Not to mention, I agree with your statements. Sorry, I beat you to the punch.

Thank you for posting that, GorramKayna. And please, Call me Nami. wink
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:10 pm


Thank you all for helping me with this. I really appreciate the links and will certainly go over them, but I was kind of hoping to do more of a discussion on this. I have heard Diana compared with both Artemis and Athena. What I was really hoping for was to make this thread a place where one can come and look through it and see the Roman and Greek deities side by side.

I know that Zeus and Jupiter are the "kings". Are there any differences between the two? I know Zeus throws lightning bolts... any help.

Origami Dragon Priestess


gorramKayna
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:59 pm


Namikikyo
gorramKayna
Sorry for the double post Namikikyo but I just found this on the list of Roman Gods you linked.

Quote:
The Hellenic Pantheon: The blending of Latin with Hellenic elements was extreme, and produced a long series of Divinities with virtually identical Attributes, and two names, a Latin one and a Greek one. The two pantheons are nearly isomorphic in fact, from Jupiter/Zeus and Juno/Hera on down to the most obscure of local Spirits. In general, it can be assumed that any Hellenic Deity was acknowledged and revered by Romans as well.


Just to mention. wink


Whoa. How did I miss that? Not to mention, I agree with your statements. Sorry, I beat you to the punch.

Thank you for posting that, GorramKayna. And please, Call me Nami. wink

No problem, and feel free to call me Kayna.

Origami Dragon Priestess
What I was really hoping for was to make this thread a place where one can come and look through it and see the Roman and Greek deities side by side.

I know that Zeus and Jupiter are the "kings". Are there any differences between the two? I know Zeus throws lightning bolts... any help.

Well let me see. Drat it all. I need a book specifically on Roman mythology. All the books I have lump it in with Greek and don't bother to elaborate about origins or even slight differences.

From what I can tell though, both Zeus and Jupiter are sky Gods who rule over storms and use thunderbolts as thier main weapons, as well as being the kings of thier respective Pantheons. Zeus is pretty much a sky and weather god though, where I found references to Jupiter as being associated with the 'elements' which is a a slightly broader term. My one big book o' mythology also says that the cult of Jupiter Optimus Maximus began under the Etruscan Kings who were expelled from Rome around 507 BCE (or around the founding of the Roman Republic). The Etruscans were a northern Italian people that had thier own culture and influence on the Rome that would emerge so I imagine thier version of Jupiter was somewhat different from the Zeus analog that we are familiar with today.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:06 pm


From what I am understanding it sounds like most books just say GrecoRoman and be done with it. Any suggestions on specific books that might be found on just Roman? I think Greek will be easier to find, but will take suggestions on that as well.

Origami Dragon Priestess


gorramKayna
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:56 pm


Can't really help with suggestions. As I said, I'd like to find some straight out Roman mythology books myself. Anyway, did you want to continue the discussion, comparing and contrasting where we can, or would you just like a list of who coresponds to whom?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:34 am


I would very much like as much of a compare and contrast as others are willing to help me with, after all that is the point of this thread. I just feel a little pushy if I keep making suggestions of who to compare next. Thanks much.

Origami Dragon Priestess


gorramKayna
Crew

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:07 pm


All right. Sorry for the late reply but better late then never right? Ans since you did start this thread I see no problem with you suggesting the particular deities for discussion. Who interests you? If you have no real top of the list questions though, I'd be willing to suggest a few.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:56 am


I don't particularly have anyone in mind, I was just thinking that it might be nice to have all/most or as many as people are willing to do up. I know that Greek and Roman are so close, but I am sure that there has to be some differences and it is those differences that I am really interested in.

How about Persephone? I don't even know what her Roman name would be...

Origami Dragon Priestess


Aithne Vanora

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:40 am


Origami Dragon, I have a book on classical mythology you can borrow if you want. It focuses on Greek mainly, but it does have info on some Roman stuff mixed in. Let me know!
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