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WhirlingWarrior

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:07 am


In your opinion, what is the true purpose of self-defense?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:00 pm


to defend your self from an attacker or being harmed surprised

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:22 am


to defend your self physically, mentally, and emotionally, as well as those who can't.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:45 pm


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to defend your self physically, mentally, and emotionally, as well as those who can't.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:25 pm


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to defend your self physically, mentally, and emotionally, as well as those who can't.


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what does that mean?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:15 pm


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to defend your self physically, mentally, and emotionally, as well as those who can't.


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what does that mean?


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Albrand

PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:41 pm


Pardon if this sounds pretentious or arrogant, but in my opinion the idea of 'self defense' is inherently flawed. This is because of the implications of reactivity and passivity. While it sounds perhaps a bit excessively aggressive, the more effective mindset for the martial artist in the attack. If a hostile force threatens one's well being or the well being of your loved ones, to 'defend' is to surrender the initiative. You are forced to reply to the attacker's offense, allowing him to physically and mentally set the pace of the conflict. In this sense, one must often 'become the aggressor' to most safely and certainly defeat the hostile force and assure the safety of yourself/your charge.

Again, this is mostly just my opinion. Hoping it'll open up some discussion.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:11 pm


Damn right your the aggressor, that person just tryed to swing at you.

the idea behind Krav Maga (i instruct self defense classes in colledge) is to have the aggressor lying crying and bleeding on the ground with you halfway down the street by the time he's even realised his first swing diddn't connect.

Edited, there really was no need for that kind of language. There wasn't even a debate.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:09 pm


Albrand
Pardon if this sounds pretentious or arrogant, but in my opinion the idea of 'self defense' is inherently flawed. This is because of the implications of reactivity and passivity. While it sounds perhaps a bit excessively aggressive, the more effective mindset for the martial artist in the attack. If a hostile force threatens one's well being or the well being of your loved ones, to 'defend' is to surrender the initiative. You are forced to reply to the attacker's offense, allowing him to physically and mentally set the pace of the conflict. In this sense, one must often 'become the aggressor' to most safely and certainly defeat the hostile force and assure the safety of yourself/your charge.

Again, this is mostly just my opinion. Hoping it'll open up some discussion.
nobody says that your defense has to be passive or submissive, defense can be aggressive, the attack starts with the initiative, buy you must seize it from him, thats why you must know what kind of techniques to use in certain positions. Use your kicks as an aggressive way to set the pace, don't allow them to get into what they would consider an effective or comfortable range, if they want to fight up close, or get close if they want to fight far away, and set the pace yourself, that is what you need to do to set the pace to gain an aggressive defense.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:06 am


Wheeler420
Damn right your the aggressor, that person just tryed to swing at you.

the idea behind Krav Maga (i instruct self defense classes in colledge) is to have the aggressor lying crying and bleeding on the ground with you halfway down the street by the time he's even realised his first swing diddn't connect.

Edited, there really was no need for that kind of language. There wasn't even a debate.


yah there was, diddn't you read the bit about the guy taking a swing at you? razz

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:04 pm


Wheeler420
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Damn right your the aggressor, that person just tryed to swing at you.

the idea behind Krav Maga (i instruct self defense classes in colledge) is to have the aggressor lying crying and bleeding on the ground with you halfway down the street by the time he's even realised his first swing diddn't connect.

Edited, there really was no need for that kind of language. There wasn't even a debate.


yah there was, diddn't you read the bit about the guy taking a swing at you? razz
i did, and he deserves all the pain i can cause, doesn't mean i'm going to use foul language. imagine how much more frustrating it would be to get your a** kicked by some one who is still being polite to you. win physically and mentally or it's not a true win.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:11 pm


sekchi-toguchi
Albrand
Pardon if this sounds pretentious or arrogant, but in my opinion the idea of 'self defense' is inherently flawed. This is because of the implications of reactivity and passivity. While it sounds perhaps a bit excessively aggressive, the more effective mindset for the martial artist in the attack. If a hostile force threatens one's well being or the well being of your loved ones, to 'defend' is to surrender the initiative. You are forced to reply to the attacker's offense, allowing him to physically and mentally set the pace of the conflict. In this sense, one must often 'become the aggressor' to most safely and certainly defeat the hostile force and assure the safety of yourself/your charge.

Again, this is mostly just my opinion. Hoping it'll open up some discussion.
nobody says that your defense has to be passive or submissive, defense can be aggressive, the attack starts with the initiative, buy you must seize it from him, thats why you must know what kind of techniques to use in certain positions. Use your kicks as an aggressive way to set the pace, don't allow them to get into what they would consider an effective or comfortable range, if they want to fight up close, or get close if they want to fight far away, and set the pace yourself, that is what you need to do to set the pace to gain an aggressive defense.



I'm aware of this. I'm just remarking on the mindset of far too many 'martial artists' who don't understand this, and end up in a bad way.

Albrand


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:32 pm


oh, ok in that case, they need to get better teachers, teachers with real world experience.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:52 am


Agreed. But sometimes, the fault is as much in the student as the teacher, methinks. But its difficult to teach someone the ability to think laterally or use one's 'defensive techniques' in an aggressive manner. Fighting spirit, etc. Most times, you either have it or don't.

Albrand


Raleigh_Ronin

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:04 pm


For me its to End the fight in the quickest way possible and with the least amount of injury.
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