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 Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:53 am
Okay, so it's gotten a little quiet around here, so I thought I'd drop a few grenades.....I mean, Topics of Discussion into the mix.
DISCUSSION: IF THERE WAS ONE THING IN THE RULEBOOK THAT YOU COULD CHANGE, WHAT WOULD IT BE?
Please post your answer and discuss the answers of others. Play nice with each other, blah, blah....
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:09 pm
The Wordings for Knighthood, or more so, Sword knights.
"4 tourney wins at a kingdom level, bla bla bla" If thats the rules, then >I< should be a sword Knight by now.
I find it distasteful in the fact that by this logic, sword Knights will become a Dime a dozen around the game, Not in NeverWinter of course since we are deeply against this revision of the words and out of our 10 years of being a Kingdom have only Knighted one Knight of the sword. But i guess we can also chalk that up to how a**l Neverwinter is about giving out awards.
I've heard from several people in my kingdom that most of the People knighted to Sword knight since the revision of the wording are nothing more than pocket change to our kingdom, And this fact bothers me. It's my personal belief that just because you're qualled, doesn't mean you've earned s**t.
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:26 pm
Return the barbarian herb.
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:50 am
antiprep The Wordings for Knighthood, or more so, Sword knights. "4 tourney wins at a kingdom level, bla bla bla" If thats the rules, then >I< should be a sword Knight by now. I find it distasteful in the fact that by this logic, sword Knights will become a Dime a dozen around the game, Not in NeverWinter of course since we are deeply against this revision of the words and out of our 10 years of being a Kingdom have only Knighted one Knight of the sword. But i guess we can also chalk that up to how a**l Neverwinter is about giving out awards. I've heard from several people in my kingdom that most of the People knighted to Sword knight since the revision of the wording are nothing more than pocket change to our kingdom, And this fact bothers me. It's my personal belief that just because you're qualled, doesn't mean you've earned s**t.
I'll admit that I've actually ignored that part of the new rulebook mostly. I'm reading it right now and I don't think I'm seeing the same thing you are, but then again I may be reading it wrong. From what I can tell, you have to have either the 21 wins in a row (no change there from previous rulebooks) or you have to win 4 major kingdom tournaments (weaponmaster, warmaster, olympiad). Those aren't generally cakewalks to win. Let me know if I'm reading this wrong, though.
They also put in the note, "The level of competition and number of entrants in all tournaments must be considered before handing out Orders of the Warrior above seven. The difficulty of the tournament must warrant the level of order awarded. " Most likely, that was put in to specifically attempt to deter what it is that you're talking about......but it wouldn't suprise me at all if it wasn't being heeded. I can easily mention several knights that ....shouldn't be.
I do agree with your statement that just because you're qualified doesn't mean you should receive the knighthood. Unfortunately, not everyone sees it that way and thinks once you get your "boxtops", you should get the prize.
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:29 am
1) Monks should be allowed to block projectiles with their feet once they get greater missle block
2) If a monk can catch an arrow out of the air and throw it at someone,in one clean motion,and if it hits point first , it should count as a hit. My lord plays monk and does that all the time,and even though I don't have to,I take the hit because it is just so cool
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:43 am
X.Dan.X 2) If a monk can catch an arrow out of the air and throw it at someone,in one clean motion,and if it hits point first , it should count as a hit. My lord plays monk and does that all the time,and even though I don't have to,I take the hit because it is just so cool That would make me uneasy as hell - it seems more likely that someone would get hit with the arrow-shaft that way. Also, it opens a gray area about the use of arrows: if you can throw them, can you stab people with them? Just strikes me as a bad idea.
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:43 pm
Taaye X.Dan.X 2) If a monk can catch an arrow out of the air and throw it at someone,in one clean motion,and if it hits point first , it should count as a hit. My lord plays monk and does that all the time,and even though I don't have to,I take the hit because it is just so cool That would make me uneasy as hell - it seems more likely that someone would get hit with the arrow-shaft that way. Also, it opens a gray area about the use of arrows: if you can throw them, can you stab people with them? Just strikes me as a bad idea. It sounds like a good idea...BUT, the stick jocks will wine about it. My worry is to get your eye stabbed in the eye with the core.
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:12 pm
It's not a good idea. She's right, if you can throw it, why not stab with it? It's a safety issue. If you could stab with it and throw it, it's basically an arrow projected javelin, and by that logic, it should be covered just as a Javelin would, no archer would do that. It's just not something that can be done within the realm of safety.
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:33 pm
I understand all the dangers and issues with it,I do. I just thought it'd be cool
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:18 pm
I'd remove this weapon catergory.
Reach slashing, piercing, or bludgeoning weapons more than 48 inches up to a maximum of 60 inches. The pommel
and handle of the weapon can be no longer than 1/3 of the weapon’s total length. If used to slash or bludgeon, at
least 2/3 of its length must be Strike-legal.
According to this anything between 4 and 5 feet long has to be a sword,axe,or club like weapon. Also barbar is the only class that can implement these weapons. I would instead re-word it so that the Spear or Polearm catergories start at 49inches and up.
I got a piece of Fiberglass sittin' around at home that can't be a spear or polearm cause it's THREE INCHES TOO SHORT! so i gotta either A make it a 2/3 strike legal sword/axe/club or B cut off the excess to make it a long so I can use it when I'm not playin' barbar.
I was told they added it to keep douchebags from using/making downspears.
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:41 am
Moo The Mighty I'd remove this weapon catergory. Reach slashing, piercing, or bludgeoning weapons more than 48 inches up to a maximum of 60 inches. The pommel and handle of the weapon can be no longer than 1/3 of the weapon’s total length. If used to slash or bludgeon, at least 2/3 of its length must be Strike-legal. According to this anything between 4 and 5 feet long has to be a sword,axe,or club like weapon. Also barbar is the only class that can implement these weapons. I would instead re-word it so that the Spear or Polearm catergories start at 49inches and up. I got a piece of Fiberglass sittin' around at home that can't be a spear or polearm cause it's THREE INCHES TOO SHORT! so i gotta either A make it a 2/3 strike legal sword/axe/club or B cut off the excess to make it a long so I can use it when I'm not playin' barbar. I was told they added it to keep douchebags from using/making downspears. Yeah, I can't say 100%, but I've been told it was added to stop the use of the Rogue Company's zulu war spears. In my experience with them, the upper-fighter Rogues were devastatingly good with them. But in the hands of others, they were an injury waiting to happen every time.
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:24 am
Yeah, The whole Zulu thing was an Issue at Dragon's Keep a while back. It's been deemed illegal here in Neverwinter, simply because in untrained hands it's a painful weapon. Mostly due to the minimal covering for the stike legal portion and the want of it to fly, which made the striking surface smaller, and the courtesy padding more of the strike area when up close and personal.
Downspears as you mentioned, are not illegal by any measure, since i use the hell out of my downspear.
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:11 am
antiprep Yeah, The whole Zulu thing was an Issue at Dragon's Keep a while back. It's been deemed illegal here in Neverwinter, simply because in untrained hands it's a painful weapon. Mostly due to the minimal covering for the stike legal portion and the want of it to fly, which made the striking surface smaller, and the courtesy padding more of the strike area when up close and personal. Downspears as you mentioned, are not illegal by any measure, since i use the hell out of my downspear. Describe to me your downspear because I may have just mixed up what the damn things are called. From what I've gathered from this thread zulus' are are/were the problem but here(read: in RW) we call em downspears. It may just be a confusing of the two. I'd love to know what I actually mean when I say Downspear.
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:08 am
Moo The Mighty antiprep Yeah, The whole Zulu thing was an Issue at Dragon's Keep a while back. It's been deemed illegal here in Neverwinter, simply because in untrained hands it's a painful weapon. Mostly due to the minimal covering for the stike legal portion and the want of it to fly, which made the striking surface smaller, and the courtesy padding more of the strike area when up close and personal. Downspears as you mentioned, are not illegal by any measure, since i use the hell out of my downspear. Describe to me your downspear because I may have just mixed up what the damn things are called. From what I've gathered from this thread zulus' are are/were the problem but here(read: in RW) we call em downspears. It may just be a confusing of the two. I'd love to know what I actually mean when I say Downspear.
Here's my take on the two:
Downspear=a weapon held in the downward position with a small padded area at the end that's stab-legal only. Think one-handed small pokey.
Zulu=take the same weapon mentioned above, then hold it and wield it like a regular sword that can slash and stab.
The difference in the two is how it's held (up vs. down) and that the Zulu was slash-legal.
The Zulus were created because those high-end fighters I mentioned (insert the name Spyn Thrift here) play the game like "high speed tag" and only struck with the tip and about 5 inches down. Therefore, they removed the rest of the padding to make the weapon that much more light and fast.
....I'm looking for a picture to post, but no luck yet.
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:53 am
The second photo on this page is of Sir Auwyne, our only sword knight in neverwinter. The guy to the right is using a downspear. You can see the entirety of the weapon except for the tip which is a legal stabbing tip. It's a stab only weapon. Sir Spyn is definitely one of the major faces of the Zulu spear. I can't find any photos of it either, but maybe if you search hard enough you could find it. http://amtwiki.org/amtwiki/index.php/Auwyne_Aboowhogod
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