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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:32 pm
This was posted by one of our system's seniors, Ted Sumner, 9th Dan. Good info and very true...
"As I begin the process of teaching the techniques of falling and rolling I stress to each of the students that these skills are far more likely to be called upon to protect them than all of their cherished “fighting” skills. The fact is that one is far more likely to fall than to be assaulted. And while falling skills are not as sexy and flashy as self defense techniques and practicing falling is, to say the least, uncomfortable, these are none the less essential skills that must be developed, honed and kept at the ready.
Case in point, years ago I taught a student who showed tremendous promise and potential. She learned quickly, practiced constantly and questioned extensively. She was passionate about all aspects of the art of Kenpo except falling and rolling. She was so determined not to be required to learn falling skills that she managed to break her collar bone during rolling practice in class in order to “earn a pass” on falling requirements. Against every fiber of good judgment that directs me as an instructor of Kenpo I let her “slide” on falling and rolling.
Several years later this student slipped walking down a flight of stairs at a shopping mall and broke her right leg. Five years later she repeated the accident walking into a night club breaking the right ankle. On this Friday past, this same student fell walking down a slippery hillside on the way to her grandson’s football game and dislocated the same ankle while breaking the right leg in three places. She will undergo surgery tomorrow.
The lesson here is twofold. Students, learn how to fall. The time will come when you lose your balance or are knocked down and the ground never misses. The ground is big, hard and it has no sympathy for you. And as instructors, we must teach the whole curriculum. We not only do the student a disservice by not teaching the entire art, but we imperil those who may become students of the student we failed to adequately prepare. NO SHORTCUTS!!! "
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:18 pm
love it, if you seem him any time soon, give him a high five for me ^_^
i love falls and rolling, it's so much fun, and is useful. i remember last winter, shoveling snow in the drive way, i slipped, fell, and got right back up.
best story ever (it's totally 100% true too) i was at the school blood drive, i had just got done giving blood, and i stood up, took a few steps and blacked out (the 'walk-alongs' didn't do their jobs, and didn't catch me) then a friend who trained with me, walked up to me a few minutes after i woke up, and said even though i was unconscious, i still fell exactly like we are taught to in class.
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:22 am
sekchi-toguchi love it, if you seem him any time soon, give him a high five for me ^_^ i love falls and rolling, it's so much fun, and is useful. i remember last winter, shoveling snow in the drive way, i slipped, fell, and got right back up. best story ever (it's totally 100% true too) i was at the school blood drive, i had just got done giving blood, and i stood up, took a few steps and blacked out (the 'walk-alongs' didn't do their jobs, and didn't catch me) then a friend who trained with me, walked up to me a few minutes after i woke up, and said even though i was unconscious, i still fell exactly like we are taught to in class. That's pretty amazing! I've actually used break falling while in a mosh pit...got shoved from behind and was going down to the cement face first! Saved my face!
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:09 pm
WhirlingWarrior sekchi-toguchi love it, if you seem him any time soon, give him a high five for me ^_^ i love falls and rolling, it's so much fun, and is useful. i remember last winter, shoveling snow in the drive way, i slipped, fell, and got right back up. best story ever (it's totally 100% true too) i was at the school blood drive, i had just got done giving blood, and i stood up, took a few steps and blacked out (the 'walk-alongs' didn't do their jobs, and didn't catch me) then a friend who trained with me, walked up to me a few minutes after i woke up, and said even though i was unconscious, i still fell exactly like we are taught to in class. That's pretty amazing! I've actually used break falling while in a mosh pit...got shoved from behind and was going down to the cement face first! Saved my face! thats what i call some good muscle memory ^_^
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:44 pm
I have to ask.. At what point do your styles teach break falling?
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:36 am
Jake Kelly v2 I have to ask.. At what point do your styles teach break falling? well, in my dojo there isn't a certain rank where it's taught. if sensei plans class around throws, he will work falling into the warm up, and depending on if he thinks everyone is falling satisfactorily or not, we may just work on falling the whole class, or we may move on to the throws. some times we'll have a class thats fun and we do races, rolling across the floor, or we'll do a zig-zag rolling thing (one person rolls to a person across from them, then tags them, that person then rolls to the person across from them and tags them so on and so forth.)
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:38 am
We officially teach break falling at purple belt (7th Kyu), but will go over it if it's going to be utilized in the day's drills.
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:31 pm
its not a requirement or anything, but chances are you won't make it very far if you don't know how to fall.
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:05 am
Cool. I was just wondering. With the style I teach we start breakfalls at white. Rolls and dive rolls come right after that. It's acutally a part of the syllabus that people have failed testing on.
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:14 am
Jake Kelly v2 Cool. I was just wondering. With the style I teach we start breakfalls at white. Rolls and dive rolls come right after that. It's acutally a part of the syllabus that people have failed testing on. well, the way we see it, if your bunkai or kiso that you need to know requires you to fall, and you get hurt, that means the fall in the bunkai or kiso needs work, therefore the bunkai or kiso needs work.
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:44 pm
When i was first learning to roll in BJJ I acadently kneed myself in the eye. redface lol
But I didn't give up and ive got it down pretty well now. I agree with what you said, learning to fall is very important.
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:21 am
I'm really bad at rolling, but in Vovinam, the falling and rolling skills are used in the forms, self-defense, and counterattacks, so it's necessary to learn them before advancing. I totally agree, rolling and falling are very important.
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:22 pm
we teach rolling within the first couple of weeks of a new class. and reinforce it a few weeks later.
but we constanly reinforce breakfalling into a pressup position, then rolling sideways on your forearm, bringing your leg up to protect you from an oncomming attacker (as if they had just pushed you from behind) as it's a far more realistic situation for our students to encounter. (+ obviously getting up as quick as possible)
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