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 Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:40 am
Now, before we start, I'll just say this. Some of you will probably get pissed at me for saying this, but in doing so you're just backing up my argument. Furthermore, for the record, I'm never this harsh. This topic just annoys me for some reason.
Let's begin :3
I've never understood why people get offended by words. Do you really feel hurt when you hear the word dyke? I was reading a thread earlier, and someone said "Don't use the word 'queer'. It's demeaning".
No it's not. It's a word. If they were beating you up calling you queer, yeah, that'd be demeaning, but IT'S A WORD. Letters. Sounds. They can't hurt you.
The same goes for racism. I can understand people being offended if they recieve unfair treatment due to race, but people who get offended by terms like "******" and "c***k" confuse me.
Now, I'm not trying to induce rage here. Does anyone have any thoughts on the matter? Try to keep it civil, please. o3o
tl;dr why do people get offended when called "dyke"?
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:31 am
I've been wondering the same thing! Who cares if somebody calls you a name? If you don't like it you can just ignore it. I've actually jokingly called myself both queer and dyke on many occasions. It doesn't bother me at all. I guess if somebody was called a specific word along with being abused or something then I could understand but otherwise, sticks and stones.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:07 am
It prollie has something to do with words being a form of expression.
What people say to you are like the words scrolling off a screen from their heads. Their thoughts. A reflection. Like there's a digital screen they're reading from. HA.
Words are something I never seem to find that match what's going on in my head though. They're not precise.
Some people are lucky. -They find those words all too easily.
Something to do with...words are written in stone in your memory? ._____.
Or maybe it's the nature behind a word. ''I want to rip your head off'' <--is just a phrase. A jumble of words. That don't mean s**t. Right? Right? Right? Nonnnnnnsense. You say that to someone -they think your inner-tickings are jammed. Or something.
Like a kiss, a hug, a slap in the face, -words don't have to be a physical thing to impact someone.
There can still be love, hate, pain, disgust, and kindness in words; in expressions, -as there can be in touch.
--My two cents.. P:
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:00 am
I really don't believe the WORD hurts, is the "what's behid it", hate, disgust, etc... Words are just forms of expression for different feelings, good or bad.
Just for the sake of the argument. Let's say that LOVE is just a word too, why would you care or trust somebody that says I LOVE YOU...? Because in the end... is just a word. Right?
People don't get offended by simple words. They are getting hurt by the feeling put behind it! Do you get hurt when somebody calles you stupid? Is just a word... 3nodding Get my point?
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:47 am
Queenie Aki I really don't believe the WORD hurts, is the "what's behid it", hate, disgust, etc... Words are just forms of expression for different feelings, good or bad. Just for the sake of the argument. Let's say that LOVE is just a word too, why would you care or trust somebody that says I LOVE YOU...? Because in the end... is just a word. Right? People don't get offended by simple words. They are getting hurt by the feeling put behind it! Do you get hurt when somebody calles you stupid? Is just a word... 3nodding Get my point?
As far as anyone else calling me something, I stick with 'Who cares?'. Honestly, why would I care if someone I don't like or don't even know calls me a dyke or stupid? Their opinion of me or feelings toward me don't mean anything to me.
The same thing goes for 'Love'. If a stranger on the street said they loved me it would mean nothing.
I think most people are hurt by being called names because they have insecurities to begin with. Take for example the word 'stupid'. If somebody thinks they are stupid to begin with and are insecure about that, they might be hurt by being called stupid. But I doubt that if somebody called a genius stupid, he or she would really care because they don't believe it's true.
If somebody called me a stupid dyke on the street, I wouldn't be hurt because I know I'm not stupid and I'm not ashamed of being a 'dyke'. And the fact that they feel disgust or hatred toward me is there problem, not mine.
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:23 am
i really dont see why ppl do get hurt by simple words and i agree with the meaning " behind" the word but still thats in a few situations why would you get mad you were tought or told at an early age sticks and stones right?
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:28 pm
It's a word that still carries negative context, used to put down a group of people; yes, words like queer, dike, c***k and so are are just that-words. Sticks and stones, right? But the intent is still there, and it still creates a negative stigma.
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:24 pm
Queenie Aki I really don't believe the WORD hurts, is the "what's behind it", hate, disgust, etc... Words are just forms of expression for different feelings, good or bad. Just for the sake of the argument. Let's say that LOVE is just a word too, why would you care or trust somebody that says I LOVE YOU...? Because in the end... is just a word. Right? People don't get offended by simple words. They are getting hurt by the feeling put behind it! Do you get hurt when somebody calles you stupid? Is just a word... icon_3nodding.gif Get my point?
"f*****t" originally meant a bundle of wood for burning--it was applied to queer people because they meant to tell us that we deserved to be burned alive. That's what it means when someone says it. That's why it hurts--because the feeling isn't just dislike, it's basically outright hatred.
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I'm not offended by "dyke" and "queer," since both are also terms of pride. But, if someone called me a c***k, I'd be very offended.
Using words that put others down expresses, encourages, and perpetuates hate for people of certain groups and encourages other people to do it openly too.
Please try to be sensitive toward racially charged insults, too. When you hear people saying that people of your race should be killed just because of the color of their skin, you might think a little more of it. And even if you personally don't mind being called a name, it doesn't mean it won't hurt someone else.
Shift lil Pixie- I think that calling yourself a name jokingly is very different from someone using it to insult you. I've used both those words to describe myself in a joking way, too. But when someone else, especially someone who's not a friend or who means it as an attack on you, it's a bit different.
It would be nice not to be hurt by what other people feel about you, but terms like this often encourage hatred, as well. And the hate--not the words--can really cause damage.
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:03 pm
c***k= probably means "uneducated or something, like ******, perhaps?"
In the Philippines, we call Chinese, "Intsik". Pronounced in English, it is spelled, "Inchik". My seventh English teacher said it was an insult, but that's what we call them. It's basically the Filipino term for Chinese and the like. Maybe it's because it is similar to "c***k", which is considered an insult to Chinese?? I dunno.. I'm confused too. @_@
And words hurt because of the meaning behind it. For example, if someone humiliates you in public by announcing to everyone in class like a complete douche that you... let's say... have cooties. Everyone ends up laughing, hahaha, and you get embarrassed and wish that you could crawl into some deep, dark hole. It's not really the words itself, but the impact it has on you and the people around you, and also what the words imply. You know that it's not true, but since you would want most people to have at least an overall neutral impression regarding your self, your self esteem gets hurt, and just in case you don't know, that's VERY important.
"******" means uneducated, an idiot.. in short, an African American "dumbtwit".
You (the creator) may wonder because you probably follow the "I don't care what other people say" policy, and most people probably would like to possess and apply the same principle to themselves. Sadly, that's not the case, and a lot of people care what others think about them. It's how we are, so if you're annoyed, there's really nothing you can do about it except bear with it.
Also, what's a "dyke"?
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:55 pm
Maki Casanova c***k= probably means "uneducated or something, like ******, perhaps?" In the Philippines, we call Chinese, "Intsik". Pronounced in English, it is spelled, "Inchik". My seventh English teacher said it was an insult, but that's what we call them. It's basically the Filipino term for Chinese and the like. Maybe it's because it is similar to "c***k", which is considered an insult to Chinese?? I dunno.. I'm confused too. @_@ -- Also, what's a "dyke"?
I can't comment on that term since I'm not familiar with Filipino languages, and I've never heard it before. ^ ^;; No idea! Perhaps ask a Chinese Filipino?
Dyke, in a better explanation I could give. :] The way I've seen it used isn't generally offensive anymore--it's often a term of identity or pride in parts of the queer communities I'm around. Some people still use it as an insult, but because it's been made so positive, I'm not offended by it, personally. But then, I'm pretty confident about my sexuality, and proud.
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:05 pm
Oooh...
Eer, don't get mad, but back when I was studying Chinese, I often laughed a lot (at the beginning) because it sounded weird. sweatdrop We learned using the pin yin, which can also be called "Romanized Chinese". I don't know if you know how that works, but the way some letters sounded was very funny, especially since it was somewhat nasal in tone.. We ended being scolded often by our teacher. sweatdrop
Uh oh.. Going off topic here. xD
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:31 pm
I'm a dyke.
:3
I'm a female version
of a f*****t, and I see
nothing wrong with that.
I'm proud of who I am,
no matter what you call
me.
Now, if you called me
a Sapphist, you might
confuse me.
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:26 pm
(The same goes for racism. I can understand people being offended if they recieve unfair treatment due to race, but people who get offended by terms like "******" and "c***k" confuse me.)
Well I think that sounds really disrespectful no matter how you look at it. If your called that by someone whether its all in good fun or being racist its still uncalled for.
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:04 pm
I don't hear the term "dyke" much. Not many "offensive" terms offend me anymore because I always know something to say that's much, much worse and I use those terms myself (except dyke. I've never had a reason to use it). Does that make me a bad person? I hope not...
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 9:45 pm
I don't see any problem with the word "dyke" whatsoever.
Its just another word for lesbian, right?
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