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abbyhursty

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:10 pm


My dad said this would go here.
Ok the question is how do you know what nothing is if it doesn't exist?
Or something like that. Like what is the meaning of nothing other than nothing?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:01 pm


The only way you can really define it is as the space inbetween.
You can know what it is because of how it reacts with the things on the edges of that space.

However, you always have to remember that the above are only mere speculation just like everything else.

Taylor_169


Indvick

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:46 pm


abbyhursty
my dad said this would go here.
Ok the question is how do you know what nothing is if it doesnt exist?
Or something like that. Like what is the meaning of nothing other then nothing?


hmm...that is a difficult question..however i think its fair to say that nothing cant exist unless everything exists..and by extension of that - nothing is everything.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:09 pm


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Nothing would be the space where no "object / emotion" exsits.

Therefore, if in that space nothing is there, then the space would be nothing, and if space is nothing, the everything is nothing.

So, we don't exsist.

Ironic Demise


Shadows-shine

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:41 am


I was always under the impression that there is no such thing is nothing. Because there always has to be something. Just like I believe there is no such place as no where, because there always is some where.

If that made sense,,,,?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:06 pm


The Romans couldn't grasp the idea of nothing as an amount, which is why they don't have a symbol (or a concept) of nothing, or the number 0. Zero is a placeholder; its purpose is to show that there is nothing there--it's a spacer.

But as for nothingness... that's a little different a concept. When people think of nothingness, they would naturally think something like the vacuum of space. This is a prime example of nothingness, but there is also space between atoms, and between subatomic particles. And subatomic particles are theoretically vibrating strings of no dimension, so technically they ARE nothing. And if all matter is made of nothing, then what is something?

My answer: The world is an illusion.

Jerba2
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Indvick

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:29 pm


Jerba2
The Romans couldn't grasp the idea of nothing as an amount, which is why they don't have a symbol (or a concept) of nothing, or the number 0. Zero is a placeholder; its purpose is to show that there is nothing there--it's a spacer.

But as for nothingness... that's a little different a concept. When people think of nothingness, they would naturally think something like the vacuum of space. This is a prime example of nothingness, but there is also space between atoms, and between subatomic particles. And subatomic particles are theoretically vibrating strings of no dimension, so technically they ARE nothing. And if all matter is made of nothing, then what is something?

My answer: The world is an illusion.

Well Reasoned
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:55 am


I'd say one of the most interesting ideas of "nothing" or "nothingness" comes from Heidegger and generally hermeneutics. The "something" that pre-sents in our heads (something that enables our understanding, perceiving, knowing something)can't be a being itself (as it only enables being to exist). In order to unerstand "existence" or "being" we need "nothing".
And to make it even funnier, next step is: the "being" is one big contradiction.

Raticiel


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:52 am


Nothing is what is outside the universe.

Nah I'm joking. I have to say though that the easiest way to imagine these sub atomic particles and what not is to imagine a piece of bread. The bread is made up of both bread and bubbles of air, yet it is all called bread. Thats how I imagine the universe, made up of both matter and nothing, in a ballance that makes it work. Or somethinglike that... it helps me I don't know if you'd benefit from thinking of it that way though.

The easiest way i've heard "nothing" explained is to imagine two boxes on a table. You move the boxes appart and the space that then grows inbetween them is a nothing area. Because relative to the boxes you are moving, there's nothing there. Of course there is something there... but it's a perception thing.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:21 pm


In truth I don't believe the concept of "nothing" is anything that the human mind can fully comprehend... any time you try to describe it, you're making it into "something". Therefore, "nothing" is truly nonexistent and therefore indescribable. Right...?

Lord Beckon


dl1371
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:21 am


nothing, is where you go after you die
but it is impossible to describe nothing because you have no thoughts
PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:51 pm


My opinion, Nothing is a lack of Something. We perceive something as the presence of matter. Mater, taken to the sub-atomic level, is a large amount of empty space. Without the discovery of a possible form of Something to occupy that space, the space is considered Nothing, because there is a lack of Something(s) to occupy the space.

I do not see how death relates to this discussion, whatsoever. Please elaborate.

Myouhiro


dl1371
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:07 pm


Ichiro_Kuragari
My opinion, Nothing is a lack of Something. We perceive something as the presence of matter. Mater, taken to the sub-atomic level, is a large amount of empty space. Without the discovery of a possible form of Something to occupy that space, the space is considered Nothing, because there is a lack of Something(s) to occupy the space.

I do not see how death relates to this discussion, whatsoever. Please elaborate.
Why certainly,
if you're an atheist, you most likely believe that after death you won't be able to think/feel/do anything.
Quote:
How do you know nothing if it doesn't exist?
One could interpret this as "How do you know nothing if the human mind is something, and something cancels out nothing?"
If there is no human mind or anything else: its nothing.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:33 pm


Hmm... good point. I think you can relate death to nothingness.

"Cogito, ergo sum." "I think, therefore I am." ("I think, therefore an 'I' must exist.") Does that mean that if you don't think, you don't exist? If you are not conscious of yourself, you do not exist to yourself.

Huh. Come to think of it, maybe nothingness is simply something of which we cannot be aware.

Jerba
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zz1000zz

PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:09 pm


Cogito ergo sum is the most meaningless statement to ever become widely known.
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