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Loona Wynd
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:20 am


To the one that I serve

Many pagan paths require members to take an oath of some form upon becoming a member of that faith. Others its between you and the deity. Still oaths are important to some and not as important as it is to others.

Are oaths an important part of your path? Why or why not?

What do you define as an oath?

Are there times when it's appropriate to break an oath you have made? Why are those times appropriate?

Have you sworn any oaths?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:41 am


Oaths will become important to my path at some time in the not so distant future. Right now I'm very much on a steep learning curve but once that curve steadies out a bit and I settle into my path a bit more then oaths will be an important part of my studies and path.

An oath is, in effect, a promise that when broken results in a betrayal and punishment. And oath is a promise to keep a secret, protect and honour. It is in my eyes anyway!

The oath I will make can never be broken as long as I stay true to it in my own mind. Eg, if witchcraft was pushed underground in a witch hunt situation I would outwardly conform to save my life but maintain my oaths inwardly.

I've never sworn any oaths as of yet. I'm too young and inexperienced to know that those oaths won't be broken.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:45 am


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Yeah. I have made one oath in my life. That was to spend this year really exploring my beliefs. Which I have been doing. If I wasn't I promised to do something to help others.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:15 am


(OK gonna try to answer this, been a few days of no sleep and stress at work)

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Are oaths an important part of your path? Why or why not?

-yes it shows a dedication to the path and "worthiness" to be taught. Shows fidelity and piety.

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What do you define as an oath?

-Pledging to do something with your life. To make an oath to a deity is to pledge with all of our might to follow the teachings of said deity.

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Are there times when it's appropriate to break an oath you have made? Why are those times appropriate?

-No to do so would incur wrath and repercussions.

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Have you sworn any oaths?

-Yes I have sworn oaths to my path and deities

Kashaku-Tatsu


redtearsblackwings

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:29 am


Okay stupid question here.
But what kind of an Oath would you take?
I don't yet have a Coven, but is there any Oaths that I could take now?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:25 am


To the one that I serve
Kashaku-Tatsu
Neko wyndy wytch
Are oaths an important part of your path? Why or why not?

-yes it shows a dedication to the path and "worthiness" to be taught. Shows fidelity and piety.
Do you think oaths are honor based as well?
To the one that I serve
Kashaku-Tatsu
Neko wyndy wytch

What do you define as an oath?

-Pledging to do something with your life. To make an oath to a deity is to pledge with all of our might to follow the teachings of said deity.
Would an oath be stronger than a "promise"?
To the one that I serve
Kashaku-Tatsu
Neko wyndy wytch

Are there times when it's appropriate to break an oath you have made? Why are those times appropriate?

-No to do so would incur wrath and repercussions.
I see. In the Nordic tradition there are times when it is ok to break an oath and times when you shouldn't. This is illustrated by the myth of Fenrir and Tyr.
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Kashaku-Tatsu
Neko wyndy wytch

Have you sworn any oaths?

-Yes I have sworn oaths to my path and deities
Have you sworn other oaths in your life (like to a pervious path)?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:32 am


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redtearsblackwings
Okay stupid question here.
No such thing as stupid questions.
I will give my all


To the one that I serve
redtearsblackwings

But what kind of an Oath would you take?
That depends. I have an oath to spend this year really exploring my spirituality and I have been doing such. Oaths can be promises to people or Gods.
I will give my all


To the one that I serve
redtearsblackwings

I don't yet have a Coven, but is there any Oaths that I could take now?
I'd only take an oath if you are sure you want to follow and do what you are doing. Oaths are contracts with deities and other beings.
I will give my all
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:20 am


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Do you think oaths are honor based as well?

honour would be keeping your oaths


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Would an oath be stronger than a "promise"?

ya.... to pledge fidelity to someone or path is more than a promise


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Have you sworn other oaths in your life (like to a pervious path)?[/ quote]
Other than to my husband? no

Kashaku-Tatsu


doistu

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:59 pm


I think an oath is something very personal and deep.
You can't make an oath lightly...kind of like a very deep promise I suppose.

*Tries to explain*
An oath is pretty much set in stone. It's rules can't be bent. It is the be all, end all and entirety of who you are and what you strive for.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:01 am


Kashaku-Tatsu
Quote:
Do you think oaths are honor based as well?

honour would be keeping your oaths
So there are no times when it's apropriate to break an Oath?

Kashaku-Tatsu

Quote:
Would an oath be stronger than a "promise"?

ya.... to pledge fidelity to someone or path is more than a promise
Do you think there are different degrees of oaths?

Kashaku-Tatsu

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Have you sworn other oaths in your life (like to a pervious path)?

Other than to my husband? no
To the one that I serve

I see.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:44 am


neko wyndy wytch
So there are no times when it's apropriate to break an Oath?

No, you don't make something as binding as an oath when you're not prepared to follow it to your grave.

Kashaku-Tatsu
Do you think there are different degrees of oaths?

No. Your oath is your binding word there are not degrees to your word. pledging to love someone for the rest of your life is just as prominent as pledging to follow a path. If you break your word on something small, what is going to keep you from faltering on a larger more difficult oath?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:07 pm


To the one that I serve

I see. I was only asking. I know for myself that I consider there to be different magnitudes of oaths. The oath I swore January first lasts one year and one year alone. I have not broken the oath, but I don't consider it to be a life long oath.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:31 pm


Then that is the duration of your oath and as long as you don't stray from it when the contract is over it's done. Doesn't make it any less in magnitude from other oaths
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:34 am


neko wyndy wytch
To the one that I serve
redtearsblackwings
Okay stupid question here.
No such thing as stupid questions.
I will give my all


To the one that I serve
redtearsblackwings

But what kind of an Oath would you take?
That depends. I have an oath to spend this year really exploring my spirituality and I have been doing such. Oaths can be promises to people or Gods.
I will give my all


To the one that I serve
redtearsblackwings

I don't yet have a Coven, but is there any Oaths that I could take now?
I'd only take an oath if you are sure you want to follow and do what you are doing. Oaths are contracts with deities and other beings.
I will give my all


Thank you.

So its just a promise? Or have I got the wrong idea?

I would follow one, I just don't know what an Oath intails or what ones to take or anything like that. Due to the fact that I can't find any covens around I don't know much.

redtearsblackwings


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:47 pm


redtearsblackwings


Thank you.

So its just a promise? Or have I got the wrong idea?

I would follow one, I just don't know what an Oath intails or what ones to take or anything like that. Due to the fact that I can't find any covens around I don't know much.


It is a lot more powerful than a simple promise. It is a binding contract for life most of the time.
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