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Hi guys, first off, I love you all. And this isn't meant to offend anyone, as I'm just posting what I've seen around. And I don't remember things like who said what XD

Seriously, over the past few weeks the guild has become a little less than an ADD nightmare. Yes, there is a reason I have not gone into this subforum in forever, and my reason remains true.

• 1. Petitions. I can't believe I'm even going here [flameshield_on] -sigh- Ideas should not be a petition process. As much as this is a "democratic" guild by nature, no idea should not be absolute, instead they should be discussed by the members of the guild to be made better.
  
  
• 2. Only when the rule of those in power becomes tyrannical and impose on the civil liberties of the people do the people have the right to rebel. And only after other options have been sought out through civil means. Being such, Kroo should act as ONE (1) entity and have a uniform grasp of the guild.
  
  I tried to get to the SG today and found it under lockdown by a VC/Captain. I tried again later and then talked to Photo about it who said they were working on it.
  
  But think about it, would Kroo serve effectively if the moderating part of their job was suddenly taxed? Such as a massive ToS violating raid. What if some Mod only deleted the posts where others only deleted the people and some people were left to not be reported? Hypothetically of course.
  
  The same happened with merging. I think, as I'm not that good with dealing with drama. The Kroo acted as several entities, some pro-merge and some anti-merge. This schism caused such unrest that it's still being discussed today.
  
  
• 3. A very Rough Idea. If we really want to make this guild a democracy, we could have crew purely moderate and make sticky topics and things like that, get rid of the crew forum, and place it in the guild business forum. As it seems that the crew is talking about guild business in Kroo anyways. And we could have voter registration and everything.
  
  
• 4. I think I had some other things to bring up, but I forgot them in my massive word leakage.

TL;DR: Too bad.

I am bad at reading long things and not losing focus, but I would like to say that I would prefer you to not tell us how things should be done.

your opinions are fine and loved but you're telling us how to run kroo and that is not something I am taking kindly to.


everyone in kroo has different opinions, and that is not bad. why should we act as 1 entity? I don't understand.

hypothetically that would suck. thankfully kroo is level headed and mature. merge sucked for a lot of reasons, none of which being because all of kroo did not have the same opinion.

what would we do if we didn't want to make this guild a democracy? I think that a democracy would be a horrible idea. we have a topic for what is going on in kroo. most things go in gb&s rather than kroo.

the merge had the majority of kroo. HOW it was acted on was the problem, not HOW MANY wanted it.

all I can say is that that stuff shouldn't be in skype chats other than the kroo one and to just trust that arguing in main skype chat shouldn't happen again.

I agree, Kroo needs to work together better. And @Pixie: We didn't vote you all in to fight amongst yourselves. As guild members I feel we have all the rights we need to express our opinion on how things are run.

Anyway, I'm going to stick up for Kroo on this one: They do need a private forum to discuss things. Especially when it comes to a certain individual basis. Believe me, after being GM and peeking into the forum (I swear I didn't do a lot of peeking) I understood that some things are better kept private.

Now maybe they should use this forum more often to discuss things, yes.

Surprisingly, we elected to stop using Crew as heavily and have been using this forum for Guild issues more often. More stuff goes on in here than in Crew.

Petitions should die in favor of suggestions, the way it was, and if you guys like an idea enough we'd enact it. So far, we've just been trying to feel for what the guild needs and attempting to fix it. Though sometimes the priorities get crossed. sweatdrop

I would like to request that crew members can have their own opinions instead of having one conformed opinion like "Crew feels that this would be in the best interest" instead of "I don't think this is going to work, but go ahead".

Voter registration sounds scary. D: I don't want us to become overly formalized. Formalizing makes things take longer to do. That's why petitions are so annoying. The time from 10-12 signatures to guild vote to actual enacting is FOREVER. I'd rather it just be "oh that sounds cool and everyone liked it in discussion, lets do it".

and yes, there are pro- and anti- merge groups in Crew, and we try not to let that affect us. Even though it seems like the pro- is just acting ahead.