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They didnt betray anyone, or anything; they were just influened by other bands of the current time.

They admitted, in multiple DVDs (Black Album for example), that they were influenced by the bands around their time. Heck, even Lars was influenced by Hendrix (he admits that he stole the opening riff to a solo from one of Hendrix's songs).

With how 'metal' music is nowadays, they decided to give things a switch for one album to see how things went.



Not only that, but think about it.
James was just getting out of rehab, and people were demanding a CD from them. What are they going to do? Sit down, and work on a single song for 5 months like before?

Erm, I do believe your trying to use a metephor where it wouldnt work out. ;x
Just so ya know..

"but when a chicken doesnt want to lay eggs anymore.....you dont......let it make shitty rock music anymore do you?"
You make it sound like your insulting Metallica's older work.

you make sense. Metallica's just shakin stuff. it's their music, we don't really have the right to complain. if they want to do things a little different, they can. it's not that the newer stuff is bad, we're just not used to it. it's different is all

I don't... Seriously, would Metallica have lasted if they debuted with "Load"? Hell ******** no, They woulda been beaten outta the whole state of California by Megadeth, Exodus, Slayer, Forbidden, Sadus, etc. I mean, they racked up a lot of thrash fans during their time as Leather Charm. Then in Metallica they released KEA, a great pioneering thrash album. Followed by RTL, MOP and Justice, which was thrash with some more heavy metal stuff, too. And that small genre change was fine, but when Black Album Came out.. Wtf.. What was that. Obviously their ability to compose and play solos didn't just slip out through cracks in the floor, yet the solos on that album were terrible compared to what came before... And coincidently they got a new money-hungry manager, Bob Rock, at the exact same time. They started playing alt. metal for christ sake, and it got worst with Load and Reload. Terrible, slow, annoying solos, if you could call em that. Very simple drum beats and the riffs were nothing special. Hetfield also lost his great voice from earlier albums.. It was the most alternative that alt. metal could get. And alt. metal and Nu Metal are to metal as pop is to music in general... If you wouldn't consider Black Album a sell-out, I sure as hell would say Load and Reload were. Then came the nu metal album with no solos what-so-ever, which might be a good thing considering how bad their solos had gotten lately. Lars sounded like he was Stomp playing drums on trash cans and cooking pots. And with Bob Rock's terrible Bass Lines and Hetfield showing an even worse side of his voice... They say Newsted "shocked" the metal world by leaving Metallica... I was surprised he didn't after he was hazed on ..Justice, he left Metallica about 12 years after I thought he would have... And I'm glad, too. Why waste Newsted's talent on the New (Nu) Metallica, when he could be helping still good bands like Voivod.

And if you don't see that as selling-out, then there is no such thing as selling out... And if you do see it as selling out and still don't think they backstabbed their fans, even though they demolished their fan base and sued their fans not that long ago, then just throw away your Metallica albums and just go start up a Tim Mcgraw cd collection....

Alright, lets just say he really did throw out his voice, and then for some odd reason, decided to record at that time anyways.. The instrumental parts of St. Anger still sucked nonetheless.. No solos, repetitive and annoying riffs.. Drums consisting of nothing but snare on a shitty drum set.. and Bob Rock on Bass.. it was a disaster.

And by

Are you saying that the reason Metallica's music is different is because they followed trends.. Thrash isn't about following trends, it's about being metal, thrash metal, and ******** who ever gives enough of a s**t to say otherwise. But obviously they went by the complete opposite of that.. I care more about Cliff Burton (RIP) than Metallica.. If Burton could see Metallica today, he's be forcibly vomitting instantly.. After all that work Burton put into Metallica, after all he did to get them to where they were by MOP. To have them make it as a true metal band.. then to throw it all away for money.. That's a disgrace..

Well you're right about the Atreyu thing.. But that's because I hate Atreyu's sound.. I don't just have a mind set, if it's new, I hate it.. Look at Overkill, I'm a huge fan of everyone of their albums.. Yet "The Killing Kind" was huge change in musical style, yet I still think it came out great, talent, a couple old techniques and a new face that they went with for an album or two. I don't hate it if it's new, I hate it if it sucks.

Seriously, "Appeal an Audience"... Metallica was doing that before, they didn't change their style to alternative rock (which is a HUGE uncalled for change), just for the sole reason of appealing an audience.. They did it for what appealing a much bigger mainstream audience would bring, money and mainstream recognition.. Think about it, back in the day of thrash, they said they'd never make a music video, and hated sell-outs.. If they were gunna change their style of music for the sake of music, they'd have gone to something like Classic Heavy Metal, etc.. Not Mainstream Alt. Rock.. Changing a musical style to appeal a larger, more mainstream audience, get more mainstream air-time and increase profits.. Hmm, what's that called, I seem to remember that from somewhere.. Oh yeah, that's called SELLING OUT!

And do you know why A7X went for that "softer" more mainstream-acceptable style? To get signed with MTV, which they did.. get signed by MTV!!!!!


Death changed their musical style largely to a more melodic Death Metal/Power metal-ish style by the end of their career... Carcass turned into death metal from grindcore by the end of their career... Meshuggah went from tech-thrash to Tech. Jazz Metal... Those are just a few examples of bands who changed their musical style for the sake of music, nothing wrong with that... I liked their albums from before and after the change, meaning, I don't hate everything new a band puts out, just anything new that sucks that a band puts out, like Metallica's later career.