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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:22 am


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What are the "accepted" sabats?
Explain what sabats you follow and why
What are the most important Esbats in your practice?
What culture do you draw these myths from?
Are their other "holidays' That you participate in?
What is an esbat to you?
How many esbas do you perform a year and when?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:33 pm


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What are the "accepted" sabats?
That would depend on your tradition and practice as every faith has different holidays. There are 8 popular sabbats amongst most of the neo-pagan community but that doesn't mean they are followed by all of the pagan community.

Those 8 Sabbats would be:
Samhain
Yule
Imbolc
Ostara
Beltaine
Litha
Lughdasha
Mabon

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Explain what sabats you follow and why
I follow the 8 sabbats listed above. As to why I'm still figuring that out and what they mean to me. The fertility mysteries surounding those sabbats are second degree material so I wont be exploring that seriously till next year.

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What are the most important Esbats in your practice?
Esbats aren't as important as sabbats though I do try to practice and hold them when I can.

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What culture do you draw these myths from?
Nordic and Celtic I believe, though my own sabbats are starting to change and become something more based around the life that I currently lead and the expressions of the seasons where I am.

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Are their other "holidays' That you participate in?
Christmas and Earthday come to mind.

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What is an esbat to you?
A monthly ritual to worship the Goddess of the Moon in her full and new phases.

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How many esbas do you perform a year?
Ideally 26. Realistically when I can remember.

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and when?
New and full moons
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:55 am


What are the "accepted" sabats?
For my path the celebrations are as follow:

Helajuhla (4.20)
Juhannus (6.24)
Karhunpäivä (7.13)
Kekri (11.1 sometimes celebrated earlier, in the end of October)
Keskitalvi (12.24)
Talvennapa (1.13)

Those are the most commonly accepted names and dates, though sometimes they may vary, and there can be more or less on that list, too.

Explain what sabats you follow and why
All of those on the list - because they all have their purpose. Hard to give a more detailed answer than that to the "why", without going to details on all of the celebrations and their meanings. They all have some myths tied to them, that make them worth celebrating, so I note the days and celebrate them if I just can.

What are the most important Esbats in your practice?
Umm, no idea? I've sometimes heard the word, but I'm not familiar with it. Not sure if that sort of thing even exists within my path.

What culture do you draw these myths from?
Finnish.

Are their other "holidays' That you participate in?
Not so much. I do spend Christmas with my family, but that falls to the same date that one of the Finn recon celebrations, so it's more like I'm celebrating the Midwinter there. Similarly the Midsummer (juhannus) is a national holiday around here, and though it has been added a bunch of Christian ideas to it, it's still celebrated pretty much like it used to be when it was a pagan holiday...

What is an esbat to you?
Still don't know the answer to that one. sweatdrop

How many esbas do you perform a year and when?
... or this.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:08 am


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What are the "accepted" sabats?
For my path the celebrations are as follow:

Helajuhla (4.20)
Juhannus (6.24)
Karhunpäivä (7.13)
Kekri (11.1 sometimes celebrated earlier, in the end of October)
Keskitalvi (12.24)
Talvennapa (1.13)

Those are the most commonly accepted names and dates, though sometimes they may vary, and there can be more or less on that list, too.
Could you explain what these holidays are?

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All of those on the list - because they all have their purpose. Hard to give a more detailed answer than that to the "why", without going to details on all of the celebrations and their meanings. They all have some myths tied to them, that make them worth celebrating, so I note the days and celebrate them if I just can.
Can you share any of those mythos with us?

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Umm, no idea? I've sometimes heard the word, but I'm not familiar with it. Not sure if that sort of thing even exists within my path.
Esbats are monthly moon celerbartions done on the new and full moons typically but can be done other times. They are a mixture of worship and working.

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Finnish.
What are the sources in Finnish culture?

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Not so much. I do spend Christmas with my family, but that falls to the same date that one of the Finn recon celebrations, so it's more like I'm celebrating the Midwinter there. Similarly the Midsummer (juhannus) is a national holiday around here, and though it has been added a bunch of Christian ideas to it, it's still celebrated pretty much like it used to be when it was a pagan holiday...
Really? How so?

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What is an esbat to you?
Still don't know the answer to that one. sweatdrop
It might not be applicable to your path. Not every path have esbats. Esbats are more of various witchcults that have them.

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How many esbas do you perform a year and when?
... or this.
Again it may not be applicable to you if not thats fine.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:08 am


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Could you explain what these holidays are?

Sure. 3nodding

The spring festival called Helajuhla is held in purpose of honoring the gods and spirits of fields and crops, since Finland is quite agricultural place. (This one doesn't hold much personal meaning to me, because I'm not a farmer, obviously, but the myths still say the crops are going to stop growing if the celebration is not held, so I'll keep on with it.)

Juhannus is a midsummer festival. It's not a too major celebration, since this wasn't even seen as the "actual" midsummer, that's the next one. Juhannus is often celebrated in honor to the sky god called Ukko, and for the sun as the days are now going to get shorter.

Now, Karhunpäivä, the day of the bear, literally translating, is one of the most important holidays (this one's also the actual midsummer, the warmest time of the year). The bear is a holy creature in Finnish mythology, and quite often he's also seen as a brother to humans. According to the myths, the bear was born in midsummer, so Karhunpäivä is sort of a birthday celebration for him.

Kekri is the end of harvest season and the beginning of winter, and also a time to remember and honor the ancestors. It's also celebrated as the end of the old year and the beginning of the new one.

Not too much to tell about keskitalvi (meaning midwinter, though again, not "actual" one) since it's not very important day, and sometimes not even celebrated. It's for the shortest day of the year, and for the sun as it's turning on its course.

Talvennapa is the actual midwinter, and the second feast for the bear. According to the myths, now's the time for the sleeping bear to turn around and break the winter so the spring will come. Sometimes this day is also for celebrating the death of the bear (just as the midsummer is for his birth).

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Can you share any of those mythos with us?

Well, I think I did that above.

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Esbats are monthly moon celerbartions done on the new and full moons typically but can be done other times. They are a mixture of worship and working.

Oh. Not those for me, then.

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What are the sources in Finnish culture?

Mostly folk stories, songs and poems. Not much in addition to those when it comes to things like mythology.

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Really? How so?

Meaning the midsummer? Well, though the day is now meant to honor John the Baptist, people still celebrate it by burning bonfires, drinking toasts and getting drunk - and that's how it was celebrated before Christianity came to Finland, only that the toasts were for Ukko.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:14 pm


I mostly celebrate the solstices, equinoxes and the new moons.

The seasons end up with these dates usually falling in the middle, so you can celebrate what has been and what is coming up.

The new moons are important because a lot of spells I use start on the new moon.

I also celebrate some astrological events.

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