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Where do Messages Come From?

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So, where do you think divinatory messages come from?
  Messages just come to me from many places.
  I can reach out and find messages.
  Messages come from within me.
  I just 'know' and don't ask where the messages come from.
  Messages? I don't get messages - how can I get them?
  Spirit guides, my deities, or some other entity brings me my messages.
  My messages come from many places - let me tell you about them.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:24 am


Let me, first, step back from the question above and ask, instead:
Is being able to divine, as in find hidden information and the answers to questions, an innate talent or an ability to be nurtured or, even, learned?
We have the Harry Potter model, where you are born either a magic-user or a muggle. And then we have the commercial model, where anyone can pay to take a class and try their hand, as if to say, 'we can all do this if we only learn a technique.'

Well, I come down on a spot which hits a middle ground. To some people, divination comes naturally, others find an ability through study and others, well, perhaps they are nulls, just not being able to 'see.' I have the opinion that there are other senses besides seeing, hearing, touch and, while senses can be developed (or simply paid attention to or focused on) they can also be absent, as in blindness, deafness, etc.

So, where did the message come from?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:59 pm


Some messages may come through divine agency. I am thinking of the Delphic oracle even as I also recall the mythical origins of the Norse runes. Odin hung on the Tree to gain the knowledge of the runes, receiving the mysteries in exchange for physical trial. We, in turn, learn the runes through trance, inspiration and study.

Prayer and ecstasy may bring insight. We may believe in the intervention of spirits, angels or guides to find our messages..... and then there are those sudden ideas that could only come from a God....

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:47 pm


There are messages that just *appear*. They come unbidden and unasked for, have an apparent life of their own.

Then there are the messages that come when you think of the right question to ask. There's a compliment I pay to those who think of good questions (I work in the sciences so perhaps we get some training in this business of 'questions'.....) and then set off in search of answers....or better questions.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:02 pm


Many of us who search for answers (or are open to messages) use some sort of tool, like the tarot, an oracle, the runes. We may scry into a candle, a mirror or a vessel of waters. A pendulum, a divining rod or a spinner may show us the way.

Some people just go into a trance and messages just come to them. I remember meeting a LilyDale-trained mystic who could do this.
I suspect that raw talent may manifest in just making good choices, in the coming together of fortuitous events. You just know......like I alluded to in the runes thread - I write and something happens. Inspiration foreshadows events.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:19 am


So, can one 'learn' to read or do you have to have a natural 'talent?' I have met people on both sides of this argument and even a few who, like me, believe that both alternatives are true. Yes, I think you can learn to develop the divinatory ability BUT some people really are nulls while others just have a knack. Practice does enhance the ability but preconceptions can lead you astray.

It took me years, and a specific incident, to become receptive to messages - pagan rituals and practices are very helpful to developing the sight as are meditation, mind exercises, the collecting of bits of a wide variety of knowledge and practice, as I've said. It is hard to get an answer if you don't have a question. It was helpful to get my hands on good tools, also - I started with a Marseilles tarot deck and it didn't speak to me; I had no idea what that silence actually meant.

Now I have more than 70 decks, many of which I will probably re-disperse, as I've said in another thread, but it has been such a learning experience. I put the cards down awhile ago, again due to a specific incident, but I feel the itch to take them back up....
PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:39 pm


It strikes me that, once you allow your natural divinatory talent to shine forth OR you develop the openness to follow the path to the future, this ability can guide you in subtle ways. For instance, on a day when the weather is unsettled when do I go out to perform a particular garden chore? You could say, just go to a local news website of Weather.com and look at the radar. But this doesn't necessarily help on one of those days when the storms pop up overhead, developing out of nowhere.

What I wanted today was a chance to put some plants in without the ground being a total mudpit yet where the new part of the garden would get a nice soaking when in place. Somehow I went out at just the right time, finishing other chores, getting this new group of plants put in with soil amendments, just before the skies opened up.....How do I do this? I just go with how opportunities present themselves. Now, if only it worked with the lottery drawing!

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