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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:04 am
Here's the stitch: having a debate on what counts as sex. I think it's the full monty, the rest (i.e. bellow waist activity) is a potential lead up. The reason for the debate? My Christian chums whom wish to wait for marriage to do ANYTHING down there. What are you takes on the subject?
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:34 pm
here is my point of view. feel free to argue debate:
any activity that - if drawn out long enough - results in climax (for males) or stimulation (for females) is technically sex. Feeling up and making out do not count as sex, while any type of contact with the genitals (oral, hand, feet, etc) does.
My opinion on what counts probably most mirrors your christian friends' views, but I could care less about saving sex for marriage. I'm providing my opinion even though the situation presented by the question doesn't really pertain to me. razz
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:01 pm
Cool. But are you still a virign if you participate in these forms of intimacy?
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:20 am
I honestly don't know (or care to know). The concept of virginity is so abstract and varies so widely that it causes lots of misunderstanding, confusion, and hurt feelings. This is especially true with the largely unspoken emphasis that society puts on being "pure". xp
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:24 pm
Well, I think there's a little flexibility in the definitions. What I have learned is sexual intercourse and molestation as two different things. Legally, rape is only defined as such when there is penetration. Otherwise, any touching of the genital area is molestation. Sex was designed as the act of actually inserting the p***s to take place and have an end result. Touching, that does not involve any penetration, is not actual sex.
There are other confusing issues in the definition, such as gay sex, which has a slightly different definition. With men, it is still penetration. With women, I don't know how to define it, really. There are some gray areas there.
As for oral sex... well, I don't really know where to draw the line. It could be considered sexual contact, but only on one person's part. I don't think it should be considered sex, because it is not contact between two persons' genitals.
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:38 pm
Cool. Imput is much appreciated. Tanks!
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