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don balistano

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:38 am


Here is a mass of information that I have acquired over the last year or two from various books, websites, etc... It's probably not displayed well, and I hope that you will look through the crappy format and just see the information. In couple parts of this I may have been a bit over passionate about when writing so I may have included some of my personal feelings about some subjects. I did not intend to do this, but I mainly just stuck to facts.

Here we go.

Truth is, the war was about state's rights and taxes. The south had the lower population of 30%, but the government (mostly ran by northerners) pushed 70% of the taxes onto the south. Oddly enough, what the south paid in taxes was the exact amount (give or take some) that the north spent annually on average. I don't disagree slavery was an issue, but it wasn't the MAIN issue, far from it.

And about Lincoln, don't get me started on him. The man was a tyrant who supported the annihilation of the southern way of life just so he could have his ******** taxes. He makes me sick. He also planned of sending all the blacks to the uninhabited jungles of South America. He got shot before that could happen though. He never made a law against slavery. His "Emancipation Proclamation" freed nobody. You can’t make a law that becomes effective in a different country (The Confederate States of America). He didn't free slaves in the Border States (which I feel were confederate states). Many of the main northern generals felt a lot of hatred for blacks, while many of the southern general viewed slavery as a necessary, but immoral evil that would fade in time.

Well, to start off Jefferson Davis had an adopted black son. Who was tragically torn away from him at is capture and was never seen again. Robert E Lee thought slavery was a moral and political evil. Even though it was against confederate law, many slave owners taught their slaves to read and write. That reminds me, a slave named Nat Turner, who was kindly taught to read and write, was brainwashed by northern abolitionist, and went of a killing spree killing 50 or so people in their sleep, starting with a baby whose head he beat against a stone fireplace. Free blacks, Mexicans, at least 2 Chinese, and many Native Americans all fought for the south willingly. Hell, the Indians even had a Brigadier General named Stand Watie, who was the last Confederate General to surrender.

It's the winners of war who write history and they had to make it seem like the War of Northern Aggression was actually worth something. So they spout bullshit about how the war was about to free the slaves, and how the south was racist, and how all the slaved worked on huge plantations with little water and all that. While the master was a fat Louisiana man in a white suit drinking lemon aid/iced tea from the veranda. Truth is, most slave owners and their sons were in the fields with the slaves. The slaves were well fed and had good medical health. What the hell is the point of having servants who are unable to work? The south wasn't about hating blacks as the schools and the media oh so often tells us. If anyone, the north was racist. They had segregated ranks, while the south's was intermingled with free white and black man alike, and the occasional slave who went along with is master. Slaves typically weren’t treated exactly as you are told. In most cases they were a member of the family, and were obviously in better conditions than northern textile mill workers. Many of the Yankee generals hated blacks.

My personal favorite Confederate general, Nathan Bedford Forrest, became a millionaire as a slave trader before the war. He always tried to keep a family together and never had a slave even try to escape from him (some of this being due to alleged brutality, but everyone has their faults right?). He said that if his slaves would support and help him throughout the war, he would free them, regardless of victor. Although he was the KKK's first Grand Wizard (the organization was very different back then, it was more for southern rights that racism), he wanted more blacks in the south! I am sure you have heard of the book called Uncle Toms Cabin, this book was filled to the brim with falsities about the southern slave system and bred animosity toward the southern peoples and their means of survival. I just love how when people preach about the underground railroad, they leave out the bit about it being a criminal organization whose main objective was grand larceny, by this I mean the mass stealing of slaves from the south.

I do thank you for taking the time out of your day to read this. Plase post your oppinions and I shall reply to them.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:10 pm




Its actually VERY true. Many "slaves" where actually PAID. Some lived in the house and was like you said, considered family. And by the civil war, most slaves had already been freed. Hell the general of the south never owned any, but the north as you also pointed out, was a very large slave trader.

The civil war was fought for power, for the north's banks, government and business to have control over the south's agricultural powerhouse, its governments and its people.

Sure slavery was immoral. But the fact that things ended the way they did, it bred more racism.. Look at Europe, when slavery was banned there wasn't really the segregation that we had up until the 60's...

The history books have it completely wrong. Its quite sad really how things turned out. It really was the beginning of the downfall of our country.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:48 pm


I agree, I think the main reason for the hate in the generations after the war is Abolitionism. If it had not been for abolitionism and radical abolitionist before the war I doubt that most of the racism would have happened. What should have been done was Gradualism, starting to end slavery in the border states, then going to the upper south, then finish it off with the lower south. Also, waiting for better farm equiptment, so less labor was needed would help the ending of slavery too.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:50 pm


This is very true. I'm Black, and I'm not even one bit opposed to this. I believe the part about the Emancipation Proclamation and the whole nine yards. But I still hate living in the South. It sucks. I'm not one of the ones that believes the whole, "Oh I'm black and living in the South, so every white person who wears a shirt with a Confederate flag on it is a racist and is trying to keep me down". No, I just really hate it here. I doubt it's much better up North, so I wanna move West.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:55 pm


don balistano
I agree, I think the main reason for the hate in the generations after the war is Abolitionism. If it had not been for abolitionism and radical abolitionist before the war I doubt that most of the racism would have happened. What should have been done was Gradualism, starting to end slavery in the border states, then going to the upper south, then finish it off with the lower south. Also, waiting for better farm equiptment, so less labor was needed would help the ending of slavery too.





Well why was it that England didn't get the racism we Americans experienced?

Its all rather arbitrary.

That sudden drop off was bad for the african americans and bad for the white communities.

Maybe we wouldn't have had the rampant racism and death/poverty up until the 60's if we had eased into it.

Really we should knock down the Lincoln monument, or at least redo it to give to some one more deserving.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:58 pm


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This is very true. I'm Black, and I'm not even one bit opposed to this. I believe the part about the Emancipation Proclamation and the whole nine yards. But I still hate living in the South. It sucks. I'm not one of the ones that believes the whole, "Oh I'm black and living in the South, so every white person who wears a shirt with a Confederate flag on it is a racist and is trying to keep me down". No, I just really hate it here. I doubt it's much better up North, so I wanna move West.





Way up north is good.

I live in northwest Michigan, and its considered REALLY cool to be black up here. XD

We're just so not used to seeing them that when we see a black person we're like:

"OH COOL BEANS! You have a different skin color then i do! Sweet!"

Then we're friendly and move on with our lives.

I love my area. Very cultural, very accepting of minorities. Most people hold the gay bar in very high regard and its actually the most popular dance club in town. Everyone goes there, not just the gay people. XD

Some of the small towns will get angry with you though. Not because your black but because they'll think you're from Detroit. And most people up here HATE Detroit. XD





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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:32 pm


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This is very true. I'm Black, and I'm not even one bit opposed to this. I believe the part about the Emancipation Proclamation and the whole nine yards. But I still hate living in the South. It sucks. I'm not one of the ones that believes the whole, "Oh I'm black and living in the South, so every white person who wears a shirt with a Confederate flag on it is a racist and is trying to keep me down". No, I just really hate it here. I doubt it's much better up North, so I wanna move West.


I'm glad you like my post. Let me guess, you live in the deep south. It's very nice in the southern north(where I live). I just reccomend you stay out of the cities. I went to Tennassee this summer, it was nice. I'd live to live out west too, with the exception on Commiefornia.
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Really, when the first traders came to Africa, the tribes were so far behind in technology, they didn't have very much to trade with. All those tribes were constantly at war with one another, and so they traded their slaves and captured prisoners. The American traders didn't go door-to-door stealing people, they paid for them. And if they hadn't, the descendants of those early slaves would be in Africa right now, eating bark and termites to survive.

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