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 Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:39 pm
This has been something that has come up a few times in the last year, but its something that really needs to be cleared up. What we need to clear up is what everyone thinks crew is responsible for. In the past crew was just there to take care of the occasional misplaced thread, major drama, or troll and to run GM sign-ups. But now it seems that crew is expected to do much, much more.
So what needs to be cleared up is what everyone thinks crew's role in the guild should be. And for that some options were made up, but what I really want to hear is what you guys think.
Options:
1. Crew should only be responsible for running elections and moving threads.
2. Crew is responsible for everything. Including but not limited to running all guild events, maintaining member participation, and keeping the guild active at all times.
3. Crew should set an example for the guild by helping it stay active, but all guild members are responsible for doing their part to help out.
4. I don't really agree with any of these. This is my opinion: <--- everyone should have some opinion.
With the next round of Kroo elections coming up. Lets make this clear so this crew and all future crew can understand what everyone expects of them.
This has been up forever and everyone has had more than enough time to see it and give an opinion. And so by the overwhelming majority of all 9 people who had something to say, option 3 was seen as the best.
Its is EVERYONE'S responsibility to be active in this guild, crew or not. If the guild is dead, its because people aren't posting. If you want to see more activity post. If you want to play a game or have a contest, start one. Want a group contest get people who you want to do the contest with to get it together.
In the end its all up to you all to get this guild active.
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:50 pm
I think 3 is the most plausible to me, I mean, this guild's only as strong as its members, and if Crew are doing all the work I see little member participation. At least in my mind.
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:03 am
I'd say, to an extent, and ideally, number 2 is correct, but number three is completely true.
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:47 pm
Option #3!
I think #2 to an extent as well. They should run guild events and try to help activity, with things like the advertising committee. The rest of the guild should try to help activity as well, but crew asks to be elected and so I think they are asking to be put in charge of helping with activity.
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:50 pm
I think that a guild's crew should step in with mod powers only for those things that require mod powers, i.e. moving threads and the occasional banning. If someone wants to do an event then they should go ahead and do it whether they are crew or not. If I decided I wanted to run an avatar contest then I'd go ahead and make the thread and do it. I don't think it should be crew's responsibility to do everything. If you're angry that the guild's not more active then be more active! If you're sad that some planned event never came to pass then do the darn event! Be proactive even if you're not crew!
So that's my thoughts. >:
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:14 pm
In my opinion, Crew is a little bit of all.
Sure, we should be starting events every now and then, but it shouldn't be "unless Crew does it, nothing happens".
Crew is only (usually) 7 people. 7 people can't be active for everyone, and everyone can't say "we're not active" and then expect someone else to be active for them. D:
Crew's role is to do administrative things like move, delete, and announce. It is also for the occasional "hey everyone let's have a party". They organize things, they do not run everything themselves. They may be responsible for a majority of things, but we're only human.
Members should be active as well, and throw in their own ideas and events run by themselves as well.
Also, doing nothing maintains status quo. Anything different raises activity. Even a "merge that fails" sparked activity. Trying and failing is better than being a user that says "the guild is dead" and does nothing.
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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:22 am
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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:14 pm
as far as mod powers go, i don't think crew needs to do a whole lot besides moving threads or stepping in when major drama happens. this would include not participating in drama.
as far as activity is concerned, i feel like crew needs to be active and at least trying to promote activity in the guild. i'm not saying crew is responsible for inactive members, but you all chose to accept your positions as crew, so i feel like you should at least be doing something. i'm not saying that every event has to be started or run by crew, but some should.
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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:41 pm
Now, I'm sure that I've stated something of the sort before... but, if you want to hear Sibby spout off...
1. Crew's responsibilities should be limited to that which is necessitated by mod powers. Dealing with the trolls, misplaced threads, etc.
2. All guild members should be responsible for events, suggestions, etc. Crew should help out if their "powers" are needed, but other than that, shouldn't be intrinsically responsible for such.
3. Just because someone's crew doesn't mean that they're not a member, and can't do the things mentioned in #2. It just means that it's not a responsibility of them as crew, but a responsibility of them as a member.
4. Crew does appear to be "leaders" and should lead by example. Crew should be doing the things in #2, not because they're crew, but because crew should be composed of active, participating members.
All in all, I think that my views most coincide with Help's... and of the given options, I find myself agreeing with option 3.
Now, this is what I think that crew *should* be... however, if it turns out that the guild as a whole seems to want a bunch of "nannies"... then I don't think there should be any more griping when they do something you don't like...
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:21 pm
I think the thing with Crew just being mods who deal with drama no longer really works. Because how often do we have drama or harrassment anymore? Back in the day it was HORRIBLE but now that certain people are gone >.> Drama pretty much only happens when we disagree with crew xd And if we cant disagree with kroo because all they do is handle trouble makers and run GM apps then all they will be doing is GM apps.
So once a month one crew member will do something, do we really need 7 crew members for that? Do we even NEED crew for that? We could just have a sign up sheet and regular members could run GM apps. I mean its good to have some crew in case of emergency drama, but not so many.
Personally I think the guild stays stagnant unless one or two people FORCE change on us. And thats why I think crew should be a big part in doing things to make this guild more active because they are in the position to force things on us that are good for us but we dont want. Also if they feel responsible for running events and things they will do it. If no one feels responsible for trying to make the guild more active by doing things, then how many people will actually do anything? Some will, but not many.
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:47 pm
Hai guild, this topic isn't dead yet so lets hear from more people. Unless you don't want anyone to hear your opinion for whatever reason, which is silly. Tell us what you expect!
My opinions as a guild member not crew:
1. There's hardly ever any trolls or misplaced threads so this kinda says crew is just there on the side and silent unless something comes up. And elections only happen every so often. It could all be run just by the captain.
2. To me this like like saying crew has to be mommy/daddy and do everything for the guild because they can't do anything for themselves. And that is not true because the people in this guild are creative and have come up with fun things before so there's no reason that they can't do fun things now or later on. No one has to be a crew member to say 'O hay lets have a party =D" Any one can do that at any time. Its what made this guild fun.
3. I think this is how the guild should be. This guild is everyone's responsibility. Everyone plays a part in this guild, not just crew. Without the members the guild is nothing, and neither is this game. If someone wants to make and event or thread, they should do it. Want to hold a contest, just do it. Want to play a mini game, just start it. 4-5 people posting a few posts every day will not make a guild active, its silly to think it does. Member or member with extra buttons that can move threads, everyone here makes this guild the fun and interesting place that it is and can be.
Give more opinions. D<
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:23 pm
After that post, I just might have to declare my love for Insom!
J/K! That wouldn't work, she'd have me dead in an hour. XP
But, seriously, I agree with just about everything.
Almost. While crew may be silent, usually.. there are times in which it is nice to have someone online, and the captain can't be here 24/7. A minimal crew, but a crew nonetheless, should be inplace... for the unexpected. or unplanned.
Other than that, I'm in agreement. ^_^
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:04 pm
Crew is responsible for touching the guild. (Not in the dirty way. Editing.)
Crew is responsible for the organization, but not participation exactly, of GUILD events. (Not Sniped D events by thread makers, of course.)
Crew is responsible for making the guild "a safe environment, one that people will respect and love." 4laugh
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:34 pm
XD; I am such a hypocrite about lurking and not being active, but whatever. I'm changing my ways, now that being active in the guild is my new New Year's resolution.
01) I disagree with this, but only partially. Crew should run elections and move threads, but it doesn't mean that it has to be the only thing to do, since they only happen every so often.
02) Some disagreement again. I have beef with Crew running ALL guild events because I think regular members should be able to run their own events whenever they please. Having Crew keep the guild active at all times is an extreme no, because if someone wants the guild to be active, complaining that Crew should take care of it isn't the best way to get that to happen. Why not be more active yourself instead of running your mouth and wanting someone else to do it?
03) Finally some agreement. Crew doesn't necessarily need to set an example, but should at least try to be active. In my opinion, it should be a two way street, because guild members should try to be active as well; they shouldn't complain that the guild isn't active when they could be trying to improve the situation.
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:19 am
BOOM! Headshot.
Go read the first post.
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