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 Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:57 pm
Yes, Donating blood. Something that is illegal for gays, and lesbians, to do.
Now me, I do it. I am O+ and have been donating for four years. I just turn a blind eye, when ever I answer the questions. My blood is good, its not an acid.
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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:14 pm
is it really illegal? aw, but it would give me an excuse to miss class my senior year! haha, i'll just do it anyways.
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the_forgotten_thought Captain
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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:17 pm
yup, against US regulations.
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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:26 pm
I hate how they hassle people. I get harrassed everytime I walk by. A friend and I once stopped for her to show me something on her iPod and next thing I know, one of the workers is behind us "Hey Guys. What're we watching?" He was trying to be funny but he went on to ask us to give blood and why we said no.
: talk2hand
I always ask them if they want a screaming 17yr old in the bloodvan when they ask me to donate. I'm terrified of needles and freak out if I need to have something done with a needle involved.
I wish I could donate though. emo It's a good thing to do, I just can't get over my fear.
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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:37 pm
It is not illegal for gays and lesbians to donate blood.
If you are a man, and you have had sex with other men then you are not allowed to donate blood. If you ever were an IV drug user (even if it was only once) you cannot donate blood ever. If you've gotten a tattoo you cannot donate for a year, and I think people with piercings cannot donate for around 4-12 months. If you weigh under 125lbs (I think) you cannot donate.
The ban against men that have sex with men (MSM) is due to the high percentage of HIV/AIDS with this group. MSM make up over half of all HIV/AIDS cases in the US but only make up around 10% of the population.
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:06 am
The system just sucks...
I agree on the fact that gays have a higher chance of having HIV but there are a lot of gay people that don't have HIV. And they can't give blood even though they don't have it...
Results of an HIV test are accurate after 3months so it is stupid to say that you can't ever give blood...
In my opinion it counts for everyone... if you have a bf/gf and you've been together for less than 3months... DON'T give blood.
If both of you are monagomous and you've had a test and it's negative then why the hell shouldn't you be able to give blood!
They wonder about bad people with HIV wanting to infect others (which often happens) but hell, they can and will do this already since they will just lie on the paper saying they don't have any risk-behaviour and then go and donate blood.
They already test the blood so in my opinion anyone having a serious relationship or who has not had sex for over 3 months should be able to go and give blood...
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the_forgotten_thought Captain
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:21 pm
Zero Fail It is not illegal for gays and lesbians to donate blood. If you are a man, and you have had sex with other men then you are not allowed to donate blood. If you ever were an IV drug user (even if it was only once) you cannot donate blood ever. If you've gotten a tattoo you cannot donate for a year, and I think people with piercings cannot donate for around 4-12 months. If you weigh under 125lbs (I think) you cannot donate. The ban against men that have sex with men (MSM) is due to the high percentage of HIV/AIDS with this group. MSM make up over half of all HIV/AIDS cases in the US but only make up around 10% of the population. wait, but that doesn't explain why i can't. that's just man on man. what about lesbians?
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:25 pm
Alrighty...lemme clear a few things up. Lesbians are fine to donate so long as they meet the requirements.
As for the HIV test...it really is not accurate at all. There have been cases in the past where people take the same test sent to 3 labs and get 3 different results (positive, negative, and inconclusive).
If you've been together less than three months you shouldn't give blood? What if you're not sexually active?
You can never truly know if yourself, and your partner are both fully monogamous and are not IV drug users (the top 2 transmitters).
There are a lot of IV drug users that don't have HIV. There are a lot of IV drug users that haven't used in a long time and don't have HIV yet they're banned for life.
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:18 am
i would love to give blood but i cant. i have super low blood pressure and even when i stand up too fast everything i see goes red then bland for a few seconds. needless to sya im a mess when im on my period
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:42 pm
Really?! What the f♥ck?! That's the most retared thing I've ever heard!!! Our blood is not poisoned! We're not alines from outer space! I wouldn't give blood away. *_*
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:03 am
Zero Fail Alrighty...lemme clear a few things up. Lesbians are fine to donate so long as they meet the requirements. As for the HIV test...it really is not accurate at all. There have been cases in the past where people take the same test sent to 3 labs and get 3 different results (positive, negative, and inconclusive). If you've been together less than three months you shouldn't give blood? What if you're not sexually active? You can never truly know if yourself, and your partner are both fully monogamous and are not IV drug users (the top 2 transmitters). There are a lot of IV drug users that don't have HIV. There are a lot of IV drug users that haven't used in a long time and don't have HIV yet they're banned for life. If the tests are not accurate why do they even bother taking them then?... There has to be a certain assurement that for a big percentage of people the test is accurate or otherwise they might just as well not do the test... Ok, you have a point about the not being sexually active, but you get what I mean, just if you have someone "new" and you want to be sexually active => get tested first and then don't give blood for at least 3 months and be sure to get tested first before you go give blood. True, you can't ever be sure about you and your partner, but then again this also counts for heterosexuals... And about the drug users this is the point they might have stopped using the drugs for 20 years or so but are still punished for they're actions even though they were lucky not getting HIV...
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:21 am
Itaghai Zero Fail Alrighty...lemme clear a few things up. Lesbians are fine to donate so long as they meet the requirements. As for the HIV test...it really is not accurate at all. There have been cases in the past where people take the same test sent to 3 labs and get 3 different results (positive, negative, and inconclusive). If you've been together less than three months you shouldn't give blood? What if you're not sexually active? You can never truly know if yourself, and your partner are both fully monogamous and are not IV drug users (the top 2 transmitters). There are a lot of IV drug users that don't have HIV. There are a lot of IV drug users that haven't used in a long time and don't have HIV yet they're banned for life. If the tests are not accurate why do they even bother taking them then?... There has to be a certain assurement that for a big percentage of people the test is accurate or otherwise they might just as well not do the test... Ok, you have a point about the not being sexually active, but you get what I mean, just if you have someone "new" and you want to be sexually active => get tested first and then don't give blood for at least 3 months and be sure to get tested first before you go give blood. True, you can't ever be sure about you and your partner, but then again this also counts for heterosexuals... And about the drug users this is the point they might have stopped using the drugs for 20 years or so but are still punished for they're actions even though they were lucky not getting HIV... They're accurate in determining if you have any amount of HIV antibodies. Also, you should note that 3 months is the earliest that you can tell by a test. Some people don't have HIV show up in a test until 6 months after getting it. Since the test for HIV isn't perfect they cut out the people that are highest risk to get it (and other STDs). I think it's better to cut out groups of people from donating that are at the highest risk.
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:06 am
Zero Fail Itaghai Zero Fail Alrighty...lemme clear a few things up. Lesbians are fine to donate so long as they meet the requirements. As for the HIV test...it really is not accurate at all. There have been cases in the past where people take the same test sent to 3 labs and get 3 different results (positive, negative, and inconclusive). If you've been together less than three months you shouldn't give blood? What if you're not sexually active? You can never truly know if yourself, and your partner are both fully monogamous and are not IV drug users (the top 2 transmitters). There are a lot of IV drug users that don't have HIV. There are a lot of IV drug users that haven't used in a long time and don't have HIV yet they're banned for life. If the tests are not accurate why do they even bother taking them then?... There has to be a certain assurement that for a big percentage of people the test is accurate or otherwise they might just as well not do the test... Ok, you have a point about the not being sexually active, but you get what I mean, just if you have someone "new" and you want to be sexually active => get tested first and then don't give blood for at least 3 months and be sure to get tested first before you go give blood. True, you can't ever be sure about you and your partner, but then again this also counts for heterosexuals... And about the drug users this is the point they might have stopped using the drugs for 20 years or so but are still punished for they're actions even though they were lucky not getting HIV... They're accurate in determining if you have any amount of HIV antibodies. Also, you should note that 3 months is the earliest that you can tell by a test. Some people don't have HIV show up in a test until 6 months after getting it. Since the test for HIV isn't perfect they cut out the people that are highest risk to get it (and other STDs). I think it's better to cut out groups of people from donating that are at the highest risk. No, I don't agree with you on cutting them out, they should have more strict rules, of this I am sure, because the facts are that they have a higher risk of carying the virus but let's for example say 2 years of having a monogamous relationship/not having sex/...(let's call it risk behaviour) or whatever the amount of time is after which they can say that a test reassures wheater you have the virus or not. They are a higher risk, but with more strict rules they could have a lot more donors... I know a lot of gay guys who haven't had sex yet and therefor can give blood, but they refuse because they're like if they don't want our blood later they're not going to get it now... So imagine all of them having a chance of being able to give blood somewhere in a far future, and I'm pretty sure they would also already give blood now, while they still haven't had sex
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:18 am
Itaghai Zero Fail Itaghai Zero Fail Alrighty...lemme clear a few things up. Lesbians are fine to donate so long as they meet the requirements. As for the HIV test...it really is not accurate at all. There have been cases in the past where people take the same test sent to 3 labs and get 3 different results (positive, negative, and inconclusive). If you've been together less than three months you shouldn't give blood? What if you're not sexually active? You can never truly know if yourself, and your partner are both fully monogamous and are not IV drug users (the top 2 transmitters). There are a lot of IV drug users that don't have HIV. There are a lot of IV drug users that haven't used in a long time and don't have HIV yet they're banned for life. If the tests are not accurate why do they even bother taking them then?... There has to be a certain assurement that for a big percentage of people the test is accurate or otherwise they might just as well not do the test... Ok, you have a point about the not being sexually active, but you get what I mean, just if you have someone "new" and you want to be sexually active => get tested first and then don't give blood for at least 3 months and be sure to get tested first before you go give blood. True, you can't ever be sure about you and your partner, but then again this also counts for heterosexuals... And about the drug users this is the point they might have stopped using the drugs for 20 years or so but are still punished for they're actions even though they were lucky not getting HIV... They're accurate in determining if you have any amount of HIV antibodies. Also, you should note that 3 months is the earliest that you can tell by a test. Some people don't have HIV show up in a test until 6 months after getting it. Since the test for HIV isn't perfect they cut out the people that are highest risk to get it (and other STDs). I think it's better to cut out groups of people from donating that are at the highest risk. No, I don't agree with you on cutting them out, they should have more strict rules, of this I am sure, because the facts are that they have a higher risk of carying the virus but let's for example say 2 years of having a monogamous relationship/not having sex/...(let's call it risk behaviour) or whatever the amount of time is after which they can say that a test reassures wheater you have the virus or not. They are a higher risk, but with more strict rules they could have a lot more donors... I know a lot of gay guys who haven't had sex yet and therefor can give blood, but they refuse because they're like if they don't want our blood later they're not going to get it now... So imagine all of them having a chance of being able to give blood somewhere in a far future, and I'm pretty sure they would also already give blood now, while they still haven't had sex I think that it's a small price to pay. If there were better tests for HIV (and other STDs) then yes, I would agree. Right now it makes more sense to cut out some people.
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 2:52 pm
Zero Fail Itaghai Zero Fail Itaghai Zero Fail Alrighty...lemme clear a few things up. Lesbians are fine to donate so long as they meet the requirements. As for the HIV test...it really is not accurate at all. There have been cases in the past where people take the same test sent to 3 labs and get 3 different results (positive, negative, and inconclusive). If you've been together less than three months you shouldn't give blood? What if you're not sexually active? You can never truly know if yourself, and your partner are both fully monogamous and are not IV drug users (the top 2 transmitters). There are a lot of IV drug users that don't have HIV. There are a lot of IV drug users that haven't used in a long time and don't have HIV yet they're banned for life. If the tests are not accurate why do they even bother taking them then?... There has to be a certain assurement that for a big percentage of people the test is accurate or otherwise they might just as well not do the test... Ok, you have a point about the not being sexually active, but you get what I mean, just if you have someone "new" and you want to be sexually active => get tested first and then don't give blood for at least 3 months and be sure to get tested first before you go give blood. True, you can't ever be sure about you and your partner, but then again this also counts for heterosexuals... And about the drug users this is the point they might have stopped using the drugs for 20 years or so but are still punished for they're actions even though they were lucky not getting HIV... They're accurate in determining if you have any amount of HIV antibodies. Also, you should note that 3 months is the earliest that you can tell by a test. Some people don't have HIV show up in a test until 6 months after getting it. Since the test for HIV isn't perfect they cut out the people that are highest risk to get it (and other STDs). I think it's better to cut out groups of people from donating that are at the highest risk. No, I don't agree with you on cutting them out, they should have more strict rules, of this I am sure, because the facts are that they have a higher risk of carying the virus but let's for example say 2 years of having a monogamous relationship/not having sex/...(let's call it risk behaviour) or whatever the amount of time is after which they can say that a test reassures wheater you have the virus or not. They are a higher risk, but with more strict rules they could have a lot more donors... I know a lot of gay guys who haven't had sex yet and therefor can give blood, but they refuse because they're like if they don't want our blood later they're not going to get it now... So imagine all of them having a chance of being able to give blood somewhere in a far future, and I'm pretty sure they would also already give blood now, while they still haven't had sex I think that it's a small price to pay. If there were better tests for HIV (and other STDs) then yes, I would agree. Right now it makes more sense to cut out some people. ok for now I agree partually with your statement but now we get to the fact that they should do more research in order to find more accurate ways of testing and this way maybe in a far future make it possible for gays to donate blood
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