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 Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:45 am
This is an honest question. As Wiccans, do you believe in a heaven or a hell? Ivy told me something about it, but I have a short term memory and I forgot, sorry. I know that I don't believe in a Hell, even as a Catholic, but I would like to hear all of your perspectives on the afterlife, or any absence of an afterlife. Thanks a lot. *hugs everyone*
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:54 am
If you're interested, you should try to find the Great Mystery books or Reincarnation and Life after Death, I found them at my library at school and I really like them. ^^ Anyways...
Personally, I don't believe in hell, noone desurves eternal damnation, that's just nuts. surprised ((In my opinion you know, I'm not trying to be rude to anyone sweatdrop )) I believe that when we die, we go to a form of the Christan Heaven, but really it can be whatever we want, a huge forest, a dungeun, whatever you want and you're not really tied to a specific place or look, this would be a time of relfextion. Contemplate your past life and catch up with those loved ones who died before you and when you're ready, get rencarnated into a new body to start the cycle again until you are really ready, you can stay in this paradise forever, unless you want to go back for another life, there are a lot of choices I believe. And as to ghosts, I beleive you can opt to become a ghost for a while, years or even just like a week to say goodbye. My view includes a lot of choices. O.o sweatdrop I hope that explains it well enough. xd
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 12:04 pm
It is my beliefe that when we die we go to a place called the summerland where we rest our spirit and go through the lessons that we learned in our past life, I think this is also a place where you can meet spirits that have past that have not moved on to there next carnation. I view summerland as just that, a land of eternal summer, beautiful nature in full bloom.
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:41 pm
I believe we are reincarnated. I'm not sure why but I rememeber some of my past and I think I've seen my future. I don't personally believe in heaven or hell but I think through our lives we understand more and become wiser. That's just what I think.
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:49 pm
Aylia If you're interested, you should try to find the Great Mystery books or Reincarnation and Life after Death, I found them at my library at school and I really like them. ^^ Anyways... Personally, I don't believe in hell, noone desurves eternal damnation, that's just nuts. surprised ((In my opinion you know, I'm not trying to be rude to anyone sweatdrop )) I believe that when we die, we go to a form of the Christan Heaven, but really it can be whatever we want, a huge forest, a dungeun, whatever you want and you're not really tied to a specific place or look, this would be a time of relfextion. Contemplate your past life and catch up with those loved ones who died before you and when you're ready, get rencarnated into a new body to start the cycle again until you are really ready, you can stay in this paradise forever, unless you want to go back for another life, there are a lot of choices I believe. And as to ghosts, I beleive you can opt to become a ghost for a while, years or even just like a week to say goodbye. My view includes a lot of choices. O.o sweatdrop I hope that explains it well enough. xd Out of all the versions of life after death I like yours the best Ali-chan. I love choices, they make me happy... but I also think that whatever happens after death is whatever you beleive in. So for you, Ali-chan, it would be your way, but completely differant from someone else, you know?
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:53 pm
Yumiko_Yoshihana Aylia If you're interested, you should try to find the Great Mystery books or Reincarnation and Life after Death, I found them at my library at school and I really like them. ^^ Anyways... Personally, I don't believe in hell, noone desurves eternal damnation, that's just nuts. surprised ((In my opinion you know, I'm not trying to be rude to anyone sweatdrop )) I believe that when we die, we go to a form of the Christan Heaven, but really it can be whatever we want, a huge forest, a dungeun, whatever you want and you're not really tied to a specific place or look, this would be a time of relfextion. Contemplate your past life and catch up with those loved ones who died before you and when you're ready, get rencarnated into a new body to start the cycle again until you are really ready, you can stay in this paradise forever, unless you want to go back for another life, there are a lot of choices I believe. And as to ghosts, I beleive you can opt to become a ghost for a while, years or even just like a week to say goodbye. My view includes a lot of choices. O.o sweatdrop I hope that explains it well enough. xd Out of all the versions of life after death I like yours the best Ali-chan. I love choices, they make me happy... but I also think that whatever happens after death is whatever you beleive in. So for you, Ali-chan, it would be your way, but completely differant from someone else, you know? Yep, i get that and believe it too, just forgot to add it. sweatdrop 'Cause really all that is about choices and it is your choice to believe in what you want to believe in, thus you belive you're going to "hell" have a fun rest of eternity. xp
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:56 pm
Aylia Yumiko_Yoshihana Aylia If you're interested, you should try to find the Great Mystery books or Reincarnation and Life after Death, I found them at my library at school and I really like them. ^^ Anyways... Personally, I don't believe in hell, noone desurves eternal damnation, that's just nuts. surprised ((In my opinion you know, I'm not trying to be rude to anyone sweatdrop )) I believe that when we die, we go to a form of the Christan Heaven, but really it can be whatever we want, a huge forest, a dungeun, whatever you want and you're not really tied to a specific place or look, this would be a time of relfextion. Contemplate your past life and catch up with those loved ones who died before you and when you're ready, get rencarnated into a new body to start the cycle again until you are really ready, you can stay in this paradise forever, unless you want to go back for another life, there are a lot of choices I believe. And as to ghosts, I beleive you can opt to become a ghost for a while, years or even just like a week to say goodbye. My view includes a lot of choices. O.o sweatdrop I hope that explains it well enough. xd Out of all the versions of life after death I like yours the best Ali-chan. I love choices, they make me happy... but I also think that whatever happens after death is whatever you beleive in. So for you, Ali-chan, it would be your way, but completely differant from someone else, you know? Yep, i get that and believe it too, just forgot to add it. sweatdrop 'Cause really all that is about choices and it is your choice to believe in what you want to believe in, thus you belive you're going to "hell" have a fun rest of eternity. xp XD That reminds me of this awsome joke I found... I think I put it under the "Pagan Jokes" thread....
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:58 pm
Yumiko_Yoshihana Aylia Yumiko_Yoshihana Aylia If you're interested, you should try to find the Great Mystery books or Reincarnation and Life after Death, I found them at my library at school and I really like them. ^^ Anyways... Personally, I don't believe in hell, noone desurves eternal damnation, that's just nuts. surprised ((In my opinion you know, I'm not trying to be rude to anyone sweatdrop )) I believe that when we die, we go to a form of the Christan Heaven, but really it can be whatever we want, a huge forest, a dungeun, whatever you want and you're not really tied to a specific place or look, this would be a time of relfextion. Contemplate your past life and catch up with those loved ones who died before you and when you're ready, get rencarnated into a new body to start the cycle again until you are really ready, you can stay in this paradise forever, unless you want to go back for another life, there are a lot of choices I believe. And as to ghosts, I beleive you can opt to become a ghost for a while, years or even just like a week to say goodbye. My view includes a lot of choices. O.o sweatdrop I hope that explains it well enough. xd Out of all the versions of life after death I like yours the best Ali-chan. I love choices, they make me happy... but I also think that whatever happens after death is whatever you beleive in. So for you, Ali-chan, it would be your way, but completely differant from someone else, you know? Yep, i get that and believe it too, just forgot to add it. sweatdrop 'Cause really all that is about choices and it is your choice to believe in what you want to believe in, thus you belive you're going to "hell" have a fun rest of eternity. xp XD That reminds me of this awsome joke I found... I think I put it under the "Pagan Jokes" thread.... Yay!! I love jokes. heart xd
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 3:00 pm
yeah, I definitely believe in reincarnation. If you were unhappy with the way that you've lived your life, then why can't you be allowed to redo it? And I also think that I have little glimpses of past lives. And my friend has told me about what she has figured out about hers. It would also kind of explain all of the deja vu that I tend to have.
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 3:03 pm
I have talked with Jin and stuff and we're pretty sure that in a past life ((man this sounds odd)) I was actually his pet cat. surprised lol, it's so odd 'cause I often see fire when I think of that life so I have come to believe that I burned to death, with makes perfect sence as part of Jin's story too, it's rather interesting. 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:00 pm
Since you guys took my posts, I'm just going to say i believe in all of the above. Even the cat thing xd .
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:03 pm
Sweetypop Since you guys took my posts, I'm just going to say i believe in all of the above. Even the cat thing xd . lol, that's the way to do it!! xd xd lmao
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:33 pm
I dont know if someones said this or not (i havent looked at all the other posts yet), but i like the idea around reincarnation as described in Wicca: A guide to the solitary practitioner. Basically what i get out of it is that there is no hell. no eternal punishment. punishment for the things you do wrong come in your current life; the three-fold law or whathaveyou. Whatever you do comes back times three. That is your punishment. Then, when you die, you are sent to (basically) paradise. There you stay until you are reborn. The idea is that a single lifetime is not enough to perfect a humans soul. so each of your lifetimes is a chance to make your soul better. once you have reached that perfection, when you die you are (i guess) sent to reside with the god and goddess. If you continue to be bad, and screw up your lives, you are just reincarnated over and over again. At least, thats what i got out of that chapter anyways.
I really like this idea, it makes everything seem much more..i dunno..reasonable, it just makes sense.
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:27 pm
Sweetypop Since you guys took my posts, I'm just going to say i believe in all of the above. Even the cat thing xd . thats what I was gona say
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:41 am
By the way, after all this talk about heaven, etc. I ended up having a dream that I died last night. I can't give details, because I forgot them, but I do know that when I died, I kinda saw that blackout thing that you see when you turn off the TV, how all the light just folds into itself and disappears. I remember that I was really happy, because I'd finally be able to see what happened in the Afterlife.
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