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Koiyuki

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:30 pm


Dr. David Lawrence, Chief Executive of Kaiser Permanente
Medical accidents and mistakes kill 400,000 poeple a year, ranking behind heart disease and cancer as the leading cause of death. Mistakes alone kill more people than tobacco, alcohol, firearms, or automobiles.


R.A. Rosenblatt
If passengers were asked to fly with a commercial airline organized like most health care, they wouldn't get on the plane.


John H. Madeira, D.C.
The day will come when healthcare as we know it will be looked back upon as barbaric, torturous and insane.


Thomas Edison, from 1895

The doctor of the future will give no medicine but will interest his patients in the care of the human frame, in diet and in the cause of the disease


What does everyone else here think of modern health care?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 3:51 pm


I believe that it has a lot of room for improvement, but at the same time- Nemone can go in to have her baby, and we here can rest assured that she will come back to us; and I did not die from some horrible disease at a young age, though exposed to them.

I believe that medicine itself is always moving forward- and yes, in a hundred years or even in fifty, this will be looked back on and heads will be shaken, but at this moment its the best we can do.

I do -not- believe that there is a pill that can cure everything, nor do I believe that all medicine and doctors are evil. I think that the world just needs to find a balance. Quinine saves lives stricken with malaria. Digitalin saves lives for people with heart trouble. And both are plant based.

I think that the only major trouble is with doctors with egos. When a doctor believes he knows best, then the patient gets the shaft. If a doctor will sit down and listen, really listen, and treat a patient as a person instead of a chart and numbers, I think so many issues will go away.

(As per my reasoning that I'm going to be a doctor.)

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:12 pm


Modern medicine is a wonderful invention; however, our doctors and nurses need not to be so understaffed and overworked that they can't effectively take care of their patients. I live in an area where the waiting list for a family doctor is YEARS long, however, I do have universal healthcare. Well, it's mostly universal. If I got cancer and had to fly to a bigger city for treatment, my airfare is covered, but not anyone who would be coming with me. And not all of the chemo or other therapies are covered.

Modern medicine has definite advantages over the old ways, but the old ways have a some definite advantages over the new ones. There has to be a combination of the two and sometime soon!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:22 am


I'm with Kyoki. It's sort of the doctors with egos thing that does the most harm. Sometimes doctors look at their patients as charts ands symptoms. I guess part of it might be defensive but most of the doctors I've seen are mostly looking at training injuries and sometimes a serious injury in which case they'd send the person to the military hospital. I don't think they have to deal with losing patients regularly and most of them only see the same patient sporadically for a year or two since they see mostly military. I think doctors need to be trained to look at causes more than symptoms. Treating symptoms alone means the problem is just going to come back. The only difficulty with that is that doctors aren't individually trained to handle the different aspects of a person's life that can contribute to medical conditions. One doctor would have to be doctor/nutritionist/phsychologist at the least and most aren't trained for that althought they do have some knowledge that overlaps fields. Well, I gotta go. Talk more later.


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