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Sakura_Gekkani_Manjitomoe

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:43 pm


How can I go about fully commiting myself to dieties of ancient egypt?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:22 pm


I recommend a course like that offered by Kemet.org.

To start with you might want to look at the Laws of Ma'at and consider how to incorporate every one into how you live your life.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:56 pm


Two things you should do are read the Egyptian Book of the Dead and get some statues of them.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:18 am


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How can I go about fully commiting myself to dieties of ancient egypt?
First are you looking to reconstruct the religion or practice a form of neopgan witchcraft which works with in the Egyptian paradigm?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:08 am


I took part in the HoN course and whilst it's gets you going and sort of introduces you it's practices and what it teaches you apply very much to Kemetic Orthodoxy.
So just be wary of tht.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:39 am


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I've never attempted an Egyptian ritual before....
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:31 am


celticfireguardian
Read the Egyptian Book of the Dead and get some statues of them.

That's not the best way to go about it.
The Book of the Dead is considered important literature but paying homage to a Kemetic deity involves more than just reading a book and getting statues of that god. Correct me if I'm wrong but, the Book of the Dead is not the Kemetic's version of the Bible.
Thats like reading Buckland's big blue book and calling yourself a Pagan. Putting time and effort into reasearching the pantheon, how they were worshipped and what ways they're worshiped today make a big difference in connection to a deity no matter what pantheon they come from.
In my few years of being a Pagan I have rarely worked with any deity outside the Kemetic Pantheon so I can offer what I know. I'm not sure if this counts for other pantheons since I've maybe worked with one or two when I first started out as a Pagan. So forgive me if this sounds a little obvious.
-Kemetic deities are not "Instagods" They are not just another part of your ritual. So randomly calling on a Kemetic god will not get you any results. This is not Pokemon. You cannot pull out a statue and say "Anpu! I choose you!" Kemetic Netjeru (the Kemetic word for deities) really value the effort put in to honoring them before calling on them.
- A good way to start is by reading some Kemetic literature. For example reading not only the Book of the Dead but read the 42 Negative Confessions. Try to live by them. They're not that hard to follow and they can only better you as a person no matter what faith you're part of.
- Learn the lingo. Kemeticism often uses words like Netjer, Netjeru and phrases like "Em Hotep". Kemetic magic is called Heka which means Authoritative speech. Words (With intent) are considered the most powerful kind of magic.
- Once you've done some research, a good offering is water. Cold, pure, water.

The question is, do you want to be solely Kemetic? If so, do you want to follow the Kemetic Orthodox path or another path?
Do you want to continue practicing generic Neopaganism but use only Kemetic deities?

http://www.ecauldron.net/reconegyptfaq.php
A quick FAQ on Kemeticism.
http://www.kemet.org/terms_list.html
Some Terms
http://www.templeankh.com/negativeconfessions.htm
42 negative confessions
http://www.templeankh.com/rituals.htm
Some Rituals for Loona. Just to get a good idea of what other Kemets do. I'm a part of the Temple Ankh but not active. So I'm not sure if how knowledgable they are.
http://www.tomeraider.com/ebooks/reference/other/the_book_of_the_dead_ebook--BK173.php
Egyptian Book of the Dead
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:51 am


CilverCyanide
celticfireguardian
Read the Egyptian Book of the Dead and get some statues of them.

That's not the best way to go about it.
The Book of the Dead is considered important literature but paying homage to a Kemetic deity involves more than just reading a book and getting statues of that god. Correct me if I'm wrong but, the Book of the Dead is not the Kemetic's version of the Bible.
Thats like reading Buckland's big blue book and calling yourself a Pagan. Putting time and effort into reasearching the pantheon, how they were worshipped and what ways they're worshiped today make a big difference in connection to a deity no matter what pantheon they come from.
In my few years of being a Pagan I have rarely worked with any deity outside the Kemetic Pantheon so I can offer what I know. I'm not sure if this counts for other pantheons since I've maybe worked with one or two when I first started out as a Pagan. So forgive me if this sounds a little obvious.
-Kemetic deities are not "Instagods" They are not just another part of your ritual. So randomly calling on a Kemetic god will not get you any results. This is not Pokemon. You cannot pull out a statue and say "Anpu! I choose you!" Kemetic Netjeru (the Kemetic word for deities) really value the effort put in to honoring them before calling on them.
- A good way to start is by reading some Kemetic literature. For example reading not only the Book of the Dead but read the 42 Negative Confessions. Try to live by them. They're not that hard to follow and they can only better you as a person no matter what faith you're part of.
- Learn the lingo. Kemeticism often uses words like Netjer, Netjeru and phrases like "Em Hotep". Kemetic magic is called Heka which means Authoritative speech. Words (With intent) are considered the most powerful kind of magic.
- Once you've done some research, a good offering is water. Cold, pure, water.

The question is, do you want to be solely Kemetic? If so, do you want to follow the Kemetic Orthodox path or another path?
Do you want to continue practicing generic Neopaganism but use only Kemetic deities?

http://www.ecauldron.net/reconegyptfaq.php
A quick FAQ on Kemeticism.
http://www.kemet.org/terms_list.html
Some Terms
http://www.templeankh.com/negativeconfessions.htm
42 negative confessions
http://www.templeankh.com/rituals.htm
Some Rituals for Loona. Just to get a good idea of what other Kemets do. I'm a part of the Temple Ankh but not active. So I'm not sure if how knowledgable they are.
http://www.tomeraider.com/ebooks/reference/other/the_book_of_the_dead_ebook--BK173.php
Egyptian Book of the Dead


It is a very good way to get started, there is a lot of research going into something like this.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:35 pm


http://talebooks.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=371&Itemid=36
This is a link to the ebook of the Book of the Dead. The other link does not.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:01 pm


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Sacred-texts.com:Egypt That link there has :

The Pyramid Texts
Samuel A. B. Mercer, translator [1952].
The oldest sacred text in the world that we know of, dating back to 3100 B.C.E.
The Pyramid Texts are funerary inscriptions from the early pyramids. This was the first translation of the Pyramid Texts into English, and this etext is the first time it has appeared on the Internet.

Development of Religion and Thought in Ancient Egypt
by James Henry Breasted [1912].
Millennia of Egyptian religious evolution as seen through their literature, including extensive quotes from the Pyramid Texts.

The Egyptian Book of the Dead
E. A. Wallis Budge, translator [1895].
The best known Ancient Egyptian sacred text, which describes the journey into the afterlife.

The Egyptian Heaven and Hell
by E. A. Wallis Budge [1905]
A journey through the night side of the Ancient Egyptian cosmos.
Vol. I: The Book of the Am-Tuat
Vol II: The Book of Gates
Vol III: The Egyptian Heaven and Hell

The Liturgy of Funerary Offerings
by E. A. Wallis Budge [1909].
Also known as "The Book of the Opening of the Mouth", this book contains a large extract from the Pyramid Texts, the oldest known Ancient Egyptian sacred text.

The Demotic Magical Papyrus of London and Leiden
by F.Ll. Griffith and Herbert Thompson [1904]
A late Egyptian magical text originally written in Demotic.
Reprinted by Dover as 'The Leyden Papyrus.'

Legends of the Gods: The Egyptian Texts
by E. A. Wallis Budge [1912]
Translations of key Ancient Egyptian myths. Includes the De Iside et Osiride of Plutarch

The Burden of Isis
by James Teackle Dennis [1910]
A translation of a set of hymns to the goddess Isis.

The Wisdom of the Egyptians
by Brian Brown [1923]
Coverage of the history of Ancient Egyptian religion, with some important texts included:
the Ptah-Hotep and the Ke'gemini
the Wisdom of Hermes Trismegistus
the Story of the Book of Thoth

The Rosetta Stone
by E. A. Wallis Budge [1893, 1905]
The famous monument which opened up the Ancient Egyptian writing system: with extensive background material and a full translation of the text.

The Hieroglyphics of Horapollo
translated by Alexander Turner Cory [1840]
An attempt in late antiquity to explain Egyptian Hieroglyphs as pure symbols (very unsuccessfully). Noted for its influence on later occultists.

Records of the Past
ed. by A. H. Sayce [1888]
Translations of mythological and historical texts from the Ancient Near East.
General

Tutankhamen: Amenism, Atenism and Egyptian Monotheism
by E. A. Wallis Budge [1923]

Egyptian Mythology and Egyptian Christianity
Samuel Sharpe [1863].

Egyptian Ideas of the Future Life
E. A. Wallis Budge [1900].

Egyptian Magic
E. A. Wallis Budge [1901]

Egyptian Myth and Legend
Donald A. Mackenzie [1907]

Ancient Egyptian Legends
Margaret Alice Murray [1920]
A taste of Ancient Egyptian mythology, by the trailblazing scholar Margaret Murray.

Legends of Babylonia and Egypt
by Leonard W. King 396,030 bytes
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:11 pm


I would warn against Budge's BOTD. Very poor translation
PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:10 am


doistu
I would warn against Budge's BOTD. Very poor translation
To the one that I serve

Unfortunatly it is the most common translation out there. I don't have a copy myself, but my best friend does. I was thinking about getting several different translations over time. I think all translations can give some insight into how things work.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:48 pm


I agree Loona, but as a starting point I would suggest the most factually accurate one.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:57 am


To the one that I serve

I'm not disputing that. For example when I first started my studied in Germanic Paganism I bought the first translation of the Poetic Edda I could find. It was the Larrington translation which is not considered to be the best translation. So I understand needing to start from a more factual and approved translation. Do you have a recomended translation?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:03 am


Oh bugger now you've got me wracking my brains hehe. I can't recall it right now but I'm PM you with it as soon as I remember. For some reason I keep thinking "Going forth by day"...

EDIT: AHA! I was right. Here's a link: Going forth by Day: Egyptian book of the Dead
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