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Friar Thomas
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:20 am


Do you have questions about what the Bible says on Sex and Sexuality? Currently at my College (University) Chapel we are discussing what the Bible has said on all sorts of issues from Masturbation to Modesty and Vanity. Having extensive knowledge in not only what the Bible says on these specific issues but having the experience to be able to answer these questions I am encouraging the guild to ask. It is important for you to ask questions and to get answers

If you have the questions please feel free to ask them here and I will answer
And no I won't feel awkward... if you would prefer you can send the question to my PM and I will post it here as anonymous that way no one will know who asked.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:24 pm


Questions that I will answer:


1. Is Masturbation a sin?
Answer on page 1

2. Is it a sin to have sex with a woman in her Menstrual period?
Answer bottom of page 1

Friar Thomas
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Elliptical Paradox
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:32 pm


I have heard multiple opinions on this:being that is it a sin,

or that through masturbation you can withhold yourself from sex and feel good about yourself.

(friar, can you give a definition?)
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:38 pm


Question 1. Is Masturbation a sin?

Ok first of all What is Masturbation:
As Defined by Dictionary.com Masturbation is:
Dictionary.com
the stimulation or manipulation of one's own genitals, esp. to orgasm; sexual self-gratification

Medical Dictionary
Erotic stimulation especially of one's own genitalorgans commonly resulting in orgasm and achieved by manual or other bodily contact exclusive of sexual intercourse, by instrumental manipulation, occasionally by sexual fantasies, or by variouscombinations of these agencies called also onanism, self-abuse



In and of itself no. The Bible has no reference to Masturbation being a sin at all. There are no verses found that even reference it. This was in fact the very first question asked at Chapel this week. However look at what Ecclesiastes 9:10a says

Ecclesiastes 9:10
Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might


Now that I'm sure I have your attention, and after you are done laughing hysterically I'm sure you would love for me to continue.

From a biblical perspective Masturbation in and of itself is not a sin. However lusting after anything is a sin. Lets start by looking at the many verses specific to Lusting

Proverbs 6:25
Do not lust in your heart after her beauty or let her captivate you with her eyes

Isaiah 57:5
You burn with lust among the oaks and under every spreading tree; you sacrifice your children in the ravines and under the overhanging crags."

Jeremiah 5:8
They are well-fed, lusty stallions, each neighing for another man's wife

Jeremiah 13:7
your adulteries and lustful neighings, your shameless prostitution! I have seen your detestable acts on the hills and in the fields. Woe to you, O Jerusalem! How long will you be unclean?"

Ezekial 6:9
Then in the nations where they have been carried captive, those who escape will remember me—how I have been grieved by their adulterous hearts, which have turned away from me, and by their eyes, which have lusted after their idols. They will loathe themselves for the evil they have done and for all their detestable practices.

Ezekial 16:26
You engaged in prostitution with the Egyptians, your lustful neighbors, and provoked me to anger with your increasing promiscuity.

Ezekial 20:23-25
Also with uplifted hand I swore to them in the desert that I would disperse them among the nations and scatter them through the countries, 24 because they had not obeyed my laws but had rejected my decrees and desecrated my Sabbaths, and their eyes lusted after their fathers' idols. 25 I also gave them over to statutes that were not good and laws they could not live by

Matthew 5:28
But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Romans 1:25-27
They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.


So in essence Lust is a sin, therefore because you are lusting while performing Masturbation, Masturbation is a sin as well.

Friar Thomas
Vice Captain


Friar Thomas
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:48 pm


Elliptical if you look at the top of my last post I edited it and included a definition.


Now to continue on this question:

Quote:
What if I can masturbate and not lust?
The question then becomes if you're not lusting then what are you thinking about? because if you're thinking about your TV/Toaster/Bike/Car while you're masturbating then there is a completely different issue there.... one that I'm not even going to touch... it is possible to masturbate without lusting, however... it is not our responsibility to see how close to the line we can come without sinning, it is our responsibility to move as far away from the line therefore we will not sin.


Also studies show that though Masturbation may provide you with sexual pleasure now, in the long run it will make things far worse for you. How you may be asking. Well for one inside your body it will begin to increase your sex drive, therefore making you want sex more and eventually in order to relieve that desire you will have to masturbate more and more.

Further more studies show that Masturbation becomes an addiction that once you are married, is hard to break. And it will cause you to have problems within your marriage if it is not stopped.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:53 pm


So masturbation is plainly better to avoid on all terms. Frankly, (I wouldn't know but) its hardly worth the 'pleasure' it provides.

Elliptical Paradox
Vice Captain


Friar Thomas
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:57 pm


Elliptical Paradox
So masturbation is plainly better to avoid on all terms. Frankly, (I wouldn't know but) its hardly worth the 'pleasure' it provides.
You're right its not.

From personal experience I can tell you that eventually you become a slave to its addiction.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:58 pm


All questions revolving around Sex and Sexuality are welcome. I will do my best to answer them all if you have them

Friar Thomas
Vice Captain


Elliptical Paradox
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:40 pm


I don't know much (anything much) on this topic, but I remember seeing somewhere....

My question is: Is it a sin to have sex with a woman in her Menstrual period?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:13 pm


That's a good question. It took me a few minutes to find anything but what I have is below
Leviticus 15:19-30

19 " 'When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening.

20 " 'Anything she lies on during her period will be unclean, and anything she sits on will be unclean. 21 Whoever touches her bed must wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he will be unclean till evening. 22 Whoever touches anything she sits on must wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he will be unclean till evening. 23 Whether it is the bed or anything she was sitting on, when anyone touches it, he will be unclean till evening.

24 " 'If a man lies with her and her monthly flow touches him, he will be unclean for seven days; any bed he lies on will be unclean.

25 " 'When a woman has a discharge of blood for many days at a time other than her monthly period or has a discharge that continues beyond her period, she will be unclean as long as she has the discharge, just as in the days of her period. 26 Any bed she lies on while her discharge continues will be unclean, as is her bed during her monthly period, and anything she sits on will be unclean, as during her period. 27 Whoever touches them will be unclean; he must wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he will be unclean till evening.

28 " 'When she is cleansed from her discharge, she must count off seven days, and after that she will be ceremonially clean. 29 On the eighth day she must take two doves or two young pigeons and bring them to the priest at the entrance to the Tent of Meeting. 30 The priest is to sacrifice one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. In this way he will make atonement for her before the LORD for the uncleanness of her discharge.



Leviticus 20:18
'If a man lies with a woman during her monthly period and has sexual relations with her, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them must be cut off from their people.



Ezekial 18:5-7

5 "Suppose there is a righteous man
who does what is just and right.

6 He does not eat at the mountain shrines
or look to the idols of the house of Israel.
He does not defile his neighbor's wife
or lie with a woman during her period.

7 He does not oppress anyone,
but returns what he took in pledge for a loan.
He does not commit robbery
but gives his food to the hungry
and provides clothing for the naked.



Based off of the passages above I'm going to say its not sinful per say... However I would say that its not a good idea. Simply because its not very clean and there are a lot of diseases that are transfered through blood. Even if the person doesn't necessarily have a specific disease there are diseases associated with coming in contact with blood, there are also diseases that some people don't necessarily have but they carry and contact with blood could expose you to that disease.

Friar Thomas
Vice Captain


Elliptical Paradox
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:18 pm


Not that I was planning to sweatdrop

But yes, thankyou for your swift answer. Though those passages... we no longer have sacrifice due to Jesus, but that seems a bit much? Surely thats not literal.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:04 pm


Woah, Okay i certainly did not know that...
Thanks for the reply.

Meister DC
Crew


Friar Thomas
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:45 pm


Those were in Leviticus so therefore written before Jesus came and left. Like I said it happened back then and that's all the Bible has concerning the issue. So while its not sin I would say its not a wise decision

Remember guys these questions are important so please feel free to ask anything
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