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 Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:10 am
Sorry, I wasn't really sure if we were allowed to put up a post like this, or if everything had to be focused strictly on our orginal characters. If this is against the rules, just say so, and feel free to delete the thread.
So, best abuse/torture stories you know? I've always been a fan of the idea of a person being trapped myself, so I have to say:
Misery: a book by Stephen King, in which an author gets kidnapped by his biggest fan, and tortured as a result.
Please Don't Leave Me: a music video by Pink, which Pink traps her boyfriend in her house to keep him from leaving her.
And Finally, David's Misery: which can be found in Youtube, where as a practical joke the actor David Tennant paradies Misery, resulting in an oblivious real estate agent having to 'save' him. Not very long, but I do like seeing him tied to a bed ^_^
Anyone else?
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:23 am
When I was younger I'd watch shounen anime on TV and take my cues from the badly-edited blood spurts. I'd say it's a fair bet that a lot of the torture my characters received during the late RSM/early MOSI era was a direct result of spending the summer of 2004 watching Rurouni Kenshin.
And I was going to link to a video by the Dresden Dolls, but now I can't find the one I wanted and am too lazy to put forth a real effort. But, in the same vein as "Please Don't Leave Me", the Dresden Dolls had a video for "Missed Me" in which Amanda tied up whatsisface, the drummer, and generally acted like her usual creepy self. Not really an "inspiration" for me, but I figured it was relevant.
Argh, Misery. burning_eyes
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:11 pm
Yeah, so long as the threads are at least somewhat kind-of-sort-of writing/character abuse related, I think they're okay. We're not such a busy guild that we can be thread snobs yet, I think. xd
I'm actually having some trouble thinking of favorites as far as torture media goes -- all I can think of are landmark ones for me personally, like parts of Chrono Trigger, which I played constantly as a kid, and some of the shitty anime I used to binge watch. I'm a lot pickier than I used to be, and typically the tortured characters/torture-filled situations I appreciate now are a lot more low-key.
If we're just talking about squee moments (not in the sense of morbidity, just in the sense of liking the characters and situations they're forced into), then the movie Red Dragon is a big one (the book a bit, as well, but moreso the movie with its visual of Graham getting stabbed and Emily Watson being ******** adorable as Reba). I also really like the pacing of the movie Children of Men and the general way Theo deals with the shitty things that happen to him.
Another one is The Road by Cormac McCarthy, which was basically nothing but the father and son mentally going "******** MY LIFE." The movie was alright, but the book had a lot of details that really got me.
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:02 pm
Ah, Red Dragon. I love the opening scene of that movie. Dammit, now I want to go rent it again.
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:46 pm
Yay ^_^ Very cool. A surprising amount of Anime references. And I've never heard of Red Dragon, but I'll be sure to go check it out. Raincrow Argh, Misery. burning_eyes You don't like Misery? I don't hold anything against you for it, but I am surprised. Misery is practically the definition of character abuse 0.o
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:03 pm
@ Lovova: It's kind of a mixed-feeling "argh," for a few reasons: 1) I have yet to actually finish Misery (the last time I tried audiobooking it, it broke the last functioning tape player in the house), 2) the book itself makes me decidedly uncomfortable in a way I can't quite explain but might have something to do with the main character's broken legs, and 3) the main character is exactly the kind of snarky b*****d main character I really can't stand. Several times moreso because it's incidentally the type of character I had to put up with in one of my classmates' short stories for an entire semester just before I started in on Misery.
I do still intend to finish reading/listening to it someday, I more or less enjoyed it before the flaming row that resulted from the tape player breaking, and I've wanted to see the movie for a while, but right now the only thing that comes to mind when someone says Misery is "argh."
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:21 pm
I prefer the movie to the book, myself. I'm not a Stephen King fan. (Oddly I like most of what he has to say in On Writing; I just don't like his actual stories. The Dark Tower comics are okay, although off the top of my head I don't know if he's the writer for those, I'm just assuming he is.)
Also Kathy Bates as Annie Wilkes is scary as ******** gonk
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:50 am
I've yet to see the movie yet, actually. I always get really nervous to watch a movie when I really liked the book, because I'm afraid that if I don't like the movie, it will somehow ruin the book for me. I suppose I'll see it eventually...but not yet sweatdrop
As for 'snarky'...I actually had to google the word to look up what it means xp Anyway, yeah, I can see how the main character might be disagreeable with some people; he's a bitter, disillusioned writer with no appreciation for what he has. Basically, he's a character with a lot of pride, which is what I think Stephen King did on purpose. His prideful, strong-willed personality is quickly taken and ripped apart by Anne, and the contrast from the character in the beginning of the book to the one at the end is startling, and really shows off what a nightmare it is to be Anne's prisoner.
Also, and since I know you havn't finished it I won't spoil the ending, but what other personality could have handled something like Anne? Paul may have been bitter and prideful, but Anne is pure narcissism wrapped up in a fleshy bag. Any personality that didn't already think it was the bees-knee would have been crushed under that forced prolong exposure to such complete self-importance, and probably wouldn't have had the will to fight back as long as Paul's personality type did.
Er...that's just what I think, anyway redface
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:07 pm
I think you're absolutely right; Paul had to be a snarky, egotistical b*****d for the plot to work the way it does. I'm not saying Stephen King is wrong in that regard. I'm just saying that I don't particularly like that kind of character, and I was sick to death of it at the time, since that's the only kind of character my classmate writes about. With heaps of misogyny for good measure.
My personal rule for watching a book's movie is actually to watch the movie first. It may spoil the ending, but in most cases I've experienced, it usually allows me to enjoy both nearly equally. My thinking is that the movie may be bad, but since I have no book to compare it to, how would I know? Then, when I read the book, I'm already familiar with the subject matter, but wide open to be surprised by all the awesome stuff the movie left out. Whereas if I read the book first, I'll inevitably like the book and be annoyed by the movie. (This was the case with both Howl's Moving Castle and The Princess Bride, though not with Stardust, since I actually found the movie much more engaging and better-executed than the book. I was disappointed with the book even before the movie came out.)
But I digress.
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:55 am
It was the same with me with the movie and book Inkheart. The movie wasn't overly good, but I did like it, and so decided to read the book afterwords...only to find the book, well...not so good -_-; I found that I liked the way the movie potrayed one of the characters, but found the same character far more boring in the book. It was very sad ;_;
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:47 pm
Lovova I found that I liked the way the movie potrayed one of the characters, but found the same character far more boring in the book. Having watched the movie but not yet read the book, and having bought the book second-hand with the understanding that I probably won't like it anyway, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess--Dustfinger?
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:55 pm
Hit it right on the head. Dustfinger came out as this really quirky, insane, almost funny bad guy in the movie, but in the book he's all angst and woe-is-me and stuff. Which, I usually don't mind in a character, but I had already fallen in love with him as someone completely different, ya know?
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