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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:47 pm
Why do some ppl hate kagome so much? Why is there a Anti-kagome club? anyone have a clue? Seriously, i see nothing wrong with kagome, ya she maybe a crybabie and such, but some don't really have to put much hatred in that, right?
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:13 pm
Well, as much as I am an anti- Kikyou person, and that I like Kagome.. i'll say: Why not?
Kagome's got her disadvantages. What I dont like about her, is that she's very annoying.. and loud. She isnt very respectful in some cases.. and thats where Kikyou's got the advantage. But, Yeah... I think Kagome can be quite unfair to Inuyasha sometimes. She's a very exaggurated anime school girl..which is unfortunate.
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Miko Kikyo of Dead Souls Captain
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:58 pm
that's a good point, but seriously, I would just ignore them. 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:20 pm
I believe most of it is females that don't like her and the reason is normally something like,
ZOMFG!!!!!!11!1!111!11!!!! she TTLY STOLE inuYasha frm me!!!!11!1!!!!!111!He is soooooo tottly minee!!!!!!111!111
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Miko Kikyo of Dead Souls Captain
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:14 pm
Nikomikiri I believe most of it is females that don't like her and the reason is normally something like, ZOMFG!!!!!!11!1!111!11!!!! she TTLY STOLE inuYasha frm me!!!!11!1!!!!!111!He is soooooo tottly minee!!!!!!111!111 so in other words, it's all pointless ranting...
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:08 pm
I do know that some people have valid reasons: They don't like Inuyasha all together. Normally, I don't expect anyone to like a character from Inuyasha when they don't even like the series.
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 4:33 pm
Nikomikiri I believe most of it is females that don't like her and the reason is normally something like, ZOMFG!!!!!!11!1!111!11!!!! she TTLY STOLE inuYasha frm me!!!!11!1!!!!!111!He is soooooo tottly minee!!!!!!111!111 ah yes I went to a comments page with a pic of Kagome and Inuyasha and that is what a lot of it sounded like, along with bashing each other for saying the same thing....I thought it was kinda pathetic really.... stare but some other people think she's really weak, or that she is in kikyou's way, or are even ticked off that she unceiled Inuyasha.....
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:43 pm
Inuyokai_13 Nikomikiri I believe most of it is females that don't like her and the reason is normally something like, ZOMFG!!!!!!11!1!111!11!!!! she TTLY STOLE inuYasha frm me!!!!11!1!!!!!111!He is soooooo tottly minee!!!!!!111!111 ah yes I went to a comments page with a pic of Kagome and Inuyasha and that is what a lot of it sounded like, along with bashing each other for saying the same thing....I thought it was kinda pathetic really.... stare but some other people think she's really weak, or that she is in kikyou's way, or are even ticked off that she unceiled Inuyasha..... Those people make me laugh. "I h8 consistent plotz!!1!"
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:02 pm
Demon_Bikou_Gyoku Why do some ppl hate kagome so much? Why is there a Anti-kagome club? anyone have a clue? Seriously, i see nothing wrong with kagome, ya she maybe a crybabie and such, but some don't really have to put much hatred in that, right? Actually, there is no Anti-Kagome club...the only ones I see are Anti-Kikyou. We have very many reasons to dislike Kagome. There are many. But this is the one most truthful, I believe. Kagome always tends to scream out Inuyasha whenever the moment comes if she needs help. Seriously, she has a bow and arrow, and she's good enough to use them. She should use her bow and arrow. In the second movie, I have counted at least 47 times she has called Inuyasha. Also, that Inuyasha calling is really annoying. INUYASHA!!! INUYASHA!!! Okay... Kagome haters acknowledge the fact that she is Kikyou's reincarnation, and that she should be like Kikyou. We do not hate Kagome, we only wish for her to be better.
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:05 pm
If you people wish for more reasons, and yes the stupid other reasons are stupid (in the previous previous post), please PM me. Maybe I'll make a topic out of this... And I can back up Kagome as well. Along with backing up Kikyou, in case you guys have a problem with her.
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:54 pm
SecretAgentX Actually, there is no Anti-Kagome club...the only ones I see are Anti-Kikyou. We have very many reasons to dislike Kagome. There are many. But this is the one most truthful, I believe. Kagome always tends to scream out Inuyasha whenever the moment comes if she needs help. Seriously, she has a bow and arrow, and she's good enough to use them. She should use her bow and arrow. In the second movie, I have counted at least 47 times she has called Inuyasha. Also, that Inuyasha calling is really annoying. INUYASHA!!! INUYASHA!!! Okay... Kagome haters acknowledge the fact that she is Kikyou's reincarnation, and that she should be like Kikyou. We do not hate Kagome, we only wish for her to be better. *eye twitch* So here we go... The fact that Kagome isn't like Kikyou is one of the focal points of the series. How many times do we hear "I'm not Kikyou," "she's not Kikyou," etc? The cast gets it - hell, if Inuyasha can understand that they're different and love them both, then you have to wonder what sort of nutcases out here in the real world would miss that. They have different strengths, and that's what was designed to allow the audience to appreciate both of them separately. Kagome is loving, trusting, and courageous. Kikyou is strong, kind, and smart. Different, but both good. Saying that Kagome should be more like Kikyou is like saying that I should be able to herd cattle because I live in Colorado. When you say something like that, you're showing a complete lack of the understanding of both the Japanese culture and the effect of the environment on the development of a person. How can you say that someone who has grown up in the modern era - where emphasis is put on school and only school - should be exactly the same as one who has grown up as a priestess, with all of the physical and strength benefits and the emotional limitations? Kikyou has had training because the one and only thing her society expected her to be was strong. Is it Kagome's fault that she didn't grow up the same way? Of course not, in the same way that it isn't Kikyou's fault that she couldn't fully trust Inuyasha - that's the limitation society put on her when she was born with the power to be a miko - and effectively an outcast. If you say that Kagome is weak as a priestess and there's no excuse, you're also saying that Kikyou is weak as a person, and that it's her fault. While Kagome and Kikyou are not even close to being the same person, you'll find that they parallel quite nicely, and so you better be willing to accept the negative repercussions that certain insults to Kagome project onto Kikyou. The "oh-em-gee she screams 'Inuyasha' too much" reason just made me laugh. Kagome does use her bow and arrow. All the time. In fact, I'm pretty sure that there isn't a protagonist in the series that she hasn't saved using her archery skills, including Kikyou. You used the second movie as an example, and while I don't know why you would doom your own argument like that, I'll be happy to point some things out to you. Let's start from the beginning, shall we? Hm, let's see. First, she and Inuyasha, using Tessaiga and her arrows, kick Naraku's a**. No problem there, correct? Then we have some pointless stuff...la la la...Kagome saves Inuyasha from getting pwned by Kagura...da di da...oh, here we are. Kaguya-hime is free. Let's see, so Kagome fires an arrow, and watch what happens. Right, it gets reflected back. Wow, it would've been good for her to fire about 50 more of those, hm? rolleyes Now, for the little part you conviniently skipped over. I'm only mentioning this so that when we get to the next point, you won't throw a hissy fit about how "she shouldn't be stupid enough to get captured in the first place." Kagome dives in front of the arrow, saving Inuyasha from getting pwned once again. That makes her such a sissy loser, doesn't it? -_- So now we move on to the place where most of the screaming of "Inuyasha" takes place: Kaguya-hime's castle. At this point, I have a question. How exactly do you want Kagome to use her arrows, seeing as her arms and legs are pinned? confused Screaming "Inuyasha" seems like a pretty good idea to me, especially because it helps him find her later. Crazed rambling aside, is that really a reason to hate a character? So she does something that you find annoying, so what? I find it annoying that Kikyou spent the vast majority of the shichinintai arc wandering through the forest repeating "ikiru wa shinuru, shinuru wa ikiru." I find it annoying that several characters in Azumanga Daioh often repeat the same phrases for minutes on end. I also find it annoying that Naruto adds "dattebayo" to nearly everything he says. Do I hate any of the characters because of this? No, of course not. It's something to get over and laugh about, not blow out of proportion. And actually, there is an anti-Kagome guild. And I assure you, I spend just as much time defending Kagome as I do defending Kikyou. Funny thing is, people on one side always seem to think that there are more on the other. They're wrong, every one of them. No, I'm not going to PM you. I don't like to seek out pointless arguments, and honestly, I'd just end up quoting the entirety of Kanshou's "In Defense of Kagome" thread. I wrote this rant because we're in a Pro-Kagome guild, so I can be as pro-Kagome as I want. Please do not have a heart attack, because I'm not flaming you. I just wanted to write something positive about Kagome in response to your post. You're going to tell me that I'm overreacting, that I'm taking it way too seriously, or that I'm wasting my time on trivial things. I don't care. I've probably developed a reputation for nuking even the smallest of arguments by now anyway, so one more doesn't matter. I enjoy writing, and I feel better now.
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:24 am
*Nods* Shoja, shoja. @ SecretAgentX: Furthermore, the second movie isn't even canon. So it doesn't even count as an example. Kagome's strength comes from elsewhere. Kikyou maybe strong physically, but emotionally, she is very weak. Kagome's strength centers from around her emotions. And if you didn't notice, Kagome did have a chance of becoming a strong Miko, but she didn't because she wanted to be by Inuyasha's side. She had to choose between throwing the rest of her life away and devote it to protecting the Shikon no Tama or staying as a normal teenager and loving Inuyasha. Unlike Kikyou, who was wishy-washy about loving Inuyasha (hence leading to her demise), Kagome was certain. It makes her determined and very decisive. Two qualities that I'm not sure you even admire, but I do. How did you think Kikyou's plans kept on failing? She was indecisive. Hence she kept on losing her chance. She could have totally pwned Naraku's a**, but she decided to wait until he collected all the Shikon no Kakara. What she wasn't anticipating was the fact that Naraku could become a full fledged youkai with the Shikon no Tama (hence the incident at Hakurei Yama). There is nothing wrong with Kagome screaming Inuyasha's name. Personally, I think that Kagome is pretty brave. She yells at "Peach man", Sesshoumaru, Naraku, and pretty much all the scariest characters from Inuyasha. I don't think you'd do the same. Don't tell me that you'd totally kick their asses and yell at them, I won't buy it. Even if Kagome's Hama no ya is not as strong as Kikyou's considering the fact that she didn't train, they're fairly powerful. Hell, she even purified Mouryoumaru's shouki when he tried to melt Kouga down and take his shards. Weak, eh? I don't think so. And while we're on the subject matter of the movies, there are many examples of Kagome's strength in the movies as well. I can tripple this already long essay about all the strong points of Kagome in these movies. First off, at the end of every single movie, it is Kagome, not Kikyou who helps Inuyasha destroy the main villain of the story, whether it be directly or indirectly. Toki o Koeru Omoi: Menomaru admits it himself as well as Ruri and Hari. Kagome's spiritual powers are strong, even if they are not as free as Kikyou's. They cannot insert the controlling piece until they use one of the Shikon no Kakara. When Kikyou is watching Menomaru absorb souls, Sesshoumaru comes over and asks her "Do you really hate that Kagome woman that much? Or are you merely testing her powers?" There, Sesshoumaru acknowledges the fact that Kagome is powerful. When Kagome shoots Inuyasha with the arrow, she screams his name out, and frees herself from Menomaru's seal, which is a hard thing to do. Again, Menomaru acknowledges it. Moving on, Kagome's arrow takes out one of Menomaru's wings. And they're huge. If she really was weak then I don't think she could have taken out his wing. It was Kagome who figured out how to kill Menomaru, and it was her arrow that smashed his central forehead-piece. Therefore, undeniably so, Inuyasha and Kagome took Menomaru out, not Kikyou. Kagami no Naka no Mugenjou: I don't need to cover this because Hana-chan already did. But I do have a few things to add. Kaguya-hime was planning on devouring Kagome. Why? Because she said Kagome possessed powerful spiritual energy. If Kagome was as weak as you are assuming, I don't think Kaguya-hime would want to devour her. In the end, when Kaguya was a celestial cloud, she wanted to make Kagome her new body. Weak, you say? Keh! Tenka hadou no Ken: Though Kagome did not take part in the actual taking-out of Takemaru and Sounga, she was a part of the great battle with the undead soldiers. When Sango got caught by an Oni, Kagome fired her arrow and killed it. In addition to that, there were no other way to kill the Oni. Sure, Kikyou could have totally done the same, but she was not in the movie, hence she is not important. Kagome's arrow also takes out a whole patch of soldiers. Though she did not kill them, you can still see the magnitude of her Hama no ya. Again, going back to Kagome's "cowardly-ness" I don't think she would have yelled at Takemaru like that. But she did, and she told Rin to run away. What did she mean by that? Kagome meant to stall Takemaru while she let Rin get away. Though it was never actually said in the movie, it is implied, and it's also common sense. Finally, though Kagome did not physically take part in destroying Sounga, she was Inuyasha's buffer in having him destroy Sounga. Inuyasha's need to protect Kagome strengthened him. Him yelling: "I have someone to protect, so I won't give up" triggered Sesshoumaru to think about the people he needed to protect. And though he said: "Kono Sesshoumaru mamoru no demo nai", he was still thinking about protecting Rin and Jaken. Hence, Kagome was a trigger in both Inuyasha and Sesshoumaru to finally put their differences aside for a moment to destroy Sounga. Guren no Horaijima: Yes. Kagome seemed mostly useless in this movie, but the plot sucked foot, so go figure. Besides, they cut out some parts. Kagome stands up to herself when the king-pin leader of the group: Ryuura. That of course was not the smartest thing to do, but it shows how very un-cowardly Kagome is. In the end of the movie, it is (once more) Kagome who helps destroy the the war gods' true appearance. I don't think I need to tell you more about that fact. Actually, there is an anti-Kagome guild. The people there are no different from anti-Kagome people. They are spiteful towards Kagome, and I generally avoid looking into their guild because I know that I'll say something. The reasons for disliking Kagome is pretty much the same thing as the reasons for disliking Kikyou. b***h, slut, whore? Hm? Tghat sounds pretty similar to me. There are several anti-Kagome AMVs. Do you want to see how nasty the anti-Kagome AMV is? Look here. It's nasty, spiteful and mean. Of course the anti-Kikyou people out there are equally as nasty. That is all I have to say. Oh, and please, don't try to compare Kikyou and Kagome. As both of them say, they're two different people, hence, they shouldn't be alike. It would ruin the whole show. Finally, I'm not anti-Kikyou. I like Kikyou very much. She is an awesome character. So don't get all up in my face and call me an anti-Kikyou b***h. Don't believe me, go the the pro-Kikyou guilds and look up my name. I'm listed in there. That's all I have to say to you. Back @ Hana-chan: sweatdrop I didn't mean to go on a rant. If I repeated anything you said, I apologize for it.
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:03 pm
No worries, Kaze-chan! 3nodding I'm grateful for the help.
On a side note, isn't it against the rules to bash Kagome in here anyway? confused I have a really strong urge to go refute every single remark that this user made here, but I decided that woudn't be nice.
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:19 pm
Hanajima-chan No worries, Kaze-chan! 3nodding I'm grateful for the help. On a side note, isn't it against the rules to bash Kagome in here anyway? confused I have a really strong urge to go refute every single remark that this user made here, but I decided that woudn't be nice. Yes. I don't think she'll say much again, so I think it's best we dropped the subject. 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:43 am
I am not saying that they are my reasons to hate her. I was just saying that some people hate Kagome because of that, I don't need a lecture. The person who started this thread only asked. And I only answered back. As for the anti-Kagome guilds, I do not know of them and I'm sorry if I'm wrong on that.
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