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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:05 am
I wasn;t sure where to put this, but does anyone know or know where I can find a key for:
Situation A, B, and C
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The Cromwell Approval
I think I have it but I was not sure.
Situation C: Low-powered vampire attacking Humans
Situation B: Higher powered vampire
Situation A: Vampire of equal or greater power
The Cromwell Approval: Permission to shape-shift.
Any better/other ideas?
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:19 pm
That may be right,but honestly I am not sure.Probably right though,although I'm sure more detail could be put into it.
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:50 pm
I know c is right but nothen else.Sorry
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:44 pm
Alright, I was browsing through old threads as I do from time to time and came cross this one. Unless it's been hashed out elsewhere (link me please if so!) I thought this would make a good discussion point to revive. I'm not thinking of a discussion of how great Alucard is, as has been done before, but rather a step by step layout of how his powers are released.
The question put down as Darth has done makes me want to re-watch the series and take notes.
I'll add my impression was that his final level of power could only be released by the head of Hellsing.
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Sir_Catherine Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:49 am
Unfortunately, there is really no way of knowing how Alucard's "control art restriction system" works (or if it even exists). For instance, the original anime shows Alucard releasing the control art restriction system to Level 5 and implies that Level 1 is the strongest level, but the manga shows Alucard releasing the control art restriction system to Level 3 and outright states that Level 0 is the strongest level. There is no way of knowing what the "Cromwell Approval" (or, alternatively, the "Cromwell Invocation") does, although shapeshifting is a good suggestion (however, Alucard has been shown to shapeshift on several occassions without using it).
There is no way of knowing how the "situation" scheme works, considering Alucard labels every situation "Situation A". The same thing can be said of the "vampire categories". Alucard says that Luke Valentine is "above even a category-A vampire". From this, we can assume that there is a "category-S". However, there is no way of knowing how a vampire fits into "category-S" (or any other category, for that matter).
The only thing we can be sure of is that, in the control art restriction system, Level 0 is the strongest level. It can only be unlocked by Sir Hellsing (his master) and allows Alucard full access to his powers (including his devastating army of familiars). Ironically, Alucard is also most vulnerable when Level 0 is unlocked.
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:53 am
Most vulnerable at level 0? Because of how cocky he becomes or some implication from the manga that I've missed, having only read through the printed volume 8?
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Sir_Catherine Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:51 am
Sir_Catherine Most vulnerable at level 0? Because of how cocky he becomes or some implication from the manga that I've missed, having only read through the printed volume 8? When Alucard is at Level 0, he is capable of releasing all of the lives he has ever absorbed. Both Anderson and the Major likened this to the lowering of a castle's defenses. It leaves Alucard with only one life within him: his own. If he is killed in this state, he cannot come back.
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:16 am
NoLifeKing66 Sir_Catherine Most vulnerable at level 0? Because of how cocky he becomes or some implication from the manga that I've missed, having only read through the printed volume 8? When Alucard is at Level 0, he is capable of releasing all of the lives he has ever absorbed. Both Anderson and the Major likened this to the lowering of a castle's defenses. It leaves Alucard with only one life within him: his own. If he is killed in this state, he cannot come back. Gotcha. This would be in the books not yet published in the U.S. I've heard the gist of what happens, but haven't been able to read any of it for myself. I don't care to read via the computer screen, so I patiently await the printed manga.
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Sir_Catherine Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:10 pm
Sir_Catherine NoLifeKing66 Sir_Catherine Most vulnerable at level 0? Because of how cocky he becomes or some implication from the manga that I've missed, having only read through the printed volume 8? When Alucard is at Level 0, he is capable of releasing all of the lives he has ever absorbed. Both Anderson and the Major likened this to the lowering of a castle's defenses. It leaves Alucard with only one life within him: his own. If he is killed in this state, he cannot come back. Gotcha. This would be in the books not yet published in the U.S. I've heard the gist of what happens, but haven't been able to read any of it for myself. I don't care to read via the computer screen, so I patiently await the printed manga.This was elaborated upon in Volume 9, but it was first stated in Volume 8, which has already been published in the U.S.
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:42 pm
TBH and IMHO, it's almost best to dismiss the OA's take on Alucard's release states if you're trying to categorize them.
When we first see Alucard in the show and he knocks off the skanky vampire, he's at Level 3, iirc. It actually seems like a waste of energy since he just /sits/ there, maybe tossing out a few centipedes and shoots her in the head.
Conversely, when he takes down Lief and Jessica, he hits Level 5 and not only taps into his shape-shifting powers, but manifests the tunnel illusion as well. That takes a huge amount of energy.
If the release states work on the scale of 1 = most power, then 3 should rank above 5 in the grand scheme of Cool Powers Alucard Has Access To. The discrepancy in the OA doesn't make sense.
We never hear of Level 5 in the manga at all- since he does clock down from 3-2-1 when he goes against Luke and Rip, it's probably safe to assume that Alucard is constantly at Level 4 normally.
Aaaaand there's my 2p. ymmv.
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Sir_Catherine Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:45 pm
I hadn't noted the discrepancy. I really should use this as an excuse to watch through the original anime again (even though I just did so smile ) and this time take notes on each release and other such data. Then read through the manga again and do the same thing. I love working with facts, figures and other such data.
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:59 pm
Sir Integra F Hellsing TBH and IMHO, it's almost best to dismiss the OA's take on Alucard's release states if you're trying to categorize them. When we first see Alucard in the show and he knocks off the skanky vampire, he's at Level 3, iirc. It actually seems like a waste of energy since he just /sits/ there, maybe tossing out a few centipedes and shoots her in the head. Conversely, when he takes down Lief and Jessica, he hits Level 5 and not only taps into his shape-shifting powers, but manifests the tunnel illusion as well. That takes a huge amount of energy. If the release states work on the scale of 1 = most power, then 3 should rank above 5 in the grand scheme of Cool Powers Alucard Has Access To. The discrepancy in the OA doesn't make sense. We never hear of Level 5 in the manga at all- since he does clock down from 3-2-1 when he goes against Luke and Rip, it's probably safe to assume that Alucard is constantly at Level 4 normally. Aaaaand there's my 2p. ymmv. I rest my case. The control art restriction system in the original anime is simply too inconsistent to come to any definite conclusions, and the manga doesn't elaborate much on it at all (except, perhaps, Level 0). I doubt Hirano himself knows how it works. It's simply a staple of action-oriented anime and manga (such as Dragonball Z) to have a character access different levels of power.
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