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Sarrisina

PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:31 pm


Hello all!

I have a question concerning my mare's mane...

My Friesian mare, Jasmine's mane is uneven, short, and ugly. There is no thick, long, luxurious, Friesian mane here. The tips are a burnt orange/red and doesn't seem to be growing very well, I've seen 3 year olds with a longer mane then she has and she's 7, her mane is probably a little over a foot long. Hehe, her birthday was yesterday. ^^ So, I need advice on how to get it to be healthy and beautiful like the trademark mane *most* friesians have. I need help! shampoos, conditioners, enhancers, grooming, anything! Thanks! a bunch! smile
PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:38 pm


Braid it! Seriously, the one friesian I knew that Had an awesome mane his owner kept it in a running french braid all of the time, and would undo it and detangle it after she rode, then re-braid it. She sold him several years ago when she got out of horses, and I worked at the barn that he lives at now last summer, and though he's in excellent health, his mane is pathetic now.

I personally think the running french braid down their neck is probably the most protective, but some people do several regular braids along the neck too. You might ask HaYouDidn'tKillMe (used to be a regular in here... still hangs out around the HTG when it's active, which is rare anymore razz ), she has a palomino QH that she uses for reining who's mane goes down to his knees, I think. He's a pretty boy.

As for general grooming, I'm generally not too keen on products, just keep it braided to protect it from getting tangled or caught on things, and when you let it out, carefully detangle it with your fingers or a wide-toothed comb trying to minimize breakage in the hair.

I'll admit, I've never had a horse with a gorgeous long mane because the style in sporthorse disciplines has always been pulled short unless you have a breed with traditionally long manes, but *I* have long hair that I take very careful care of. The biggest things I do is keep it up 95% of the time and never ever brush it, just detangle with my fingers, which doesn't take too long because the braids keep it from getting tangled for the most part.

AriaStarSong


Pathological Kisser

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:42 am


Okay, here are a few suggestions. Because I don't know your mare, not all of these may be applicable to her situation.

-Color-

-If I had to guess, I would say that her mane has that 'burnt orange' color because it is bleached from the sun. Keeping her in during the day will help to preserve the color of her coat, mane and tail. I do not like color enhancing supplements and I've never tried darkening shampoos(but I would guess that dyes would come off on your pads). If it is not a result of sun bleaching, then it might be a color gene dilution that is causing this. I'm not really familiar with Freisans, so I can't comment on common problems like this.

-Length-

-First you have to figure out why her hair is so short. Is it just not growing? (If so she might have a condition where she has sparse hair growth and you would have to discuss specific supplements with your vet) Or is she rubbing it? (If it isn't dirty, and she doesn't have ticks/lice and she is rubbing she might be irritated by products that you use on her mane or have a skin allergy(but then they usually rub hair off other areas as well)) Or is another horse chewing her mane? (There are some products to discourage chewing, but they are AWFUL!!!)

-My general suggestion works really well, but you have to have the time to tend to her mane every day(at the least every other day). You braid her mane, but you have to re-do it often and let it rest for a day here and there. Braiding protects the hairs from rubbing and helps it to grow. But continued tight pulling and tangles around rubber bands can pull hair out as well. So you have to use your own judgement as you do it. When you braid the tail and use a tail bag, that works excellently.

-As far as supplements to encourage hair growth, I have used several.(Though not always for that specific goal, but supplements that do that as well) Farrier's Formula or Horse Shoers Secret are good for hair growth as well as healthy hooves. There is one supplement I can't really remember the whole name. It is something like MVP and is sold in Horse Health USA. It is AMAZING. lol Funny story. The first time I got it, I mixed up the amount and was 'overdosing' my horses(it's not harmful with something like that over the few days of my mixup, no worries). It was spring and they were all still kind of hairy from winter. They shed their winter coats in like three days and had this beautiful shiny coat. I was like 'Wow...' And then noticed my mistake. But it does work really well when used properly.

I hope something in here helps!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:19 am


AriaStarSong
Braid it! Seriously, the one friesian I knew that Had an awesome mane his owner kept it in a running french braid all of the time, and would undo it and detangle it after she rode, then re-braid it. She sold him several years ago when she got out of horses, and I worked at the barn that he lives at now last summer, and though he's in excellent health, his mane is pathetic now.

I personally think the running french braid down their neck is probably the most protective, but some people do several regular braids along the neck too. You might ask HaYouDidn'tKillMe (used to be a regular in here... still hangs out around the HTG when it's active, which is rare anymore razz ), she has a palomino QH that she uses for reining who's mane goes down to his knees, I think. He's a pretty boy.

As for general grooming, I'm generally not too keen on products, just keep it braided to protect it from getting tangled or caught on things, and when you let it out, carefully detangle it with your fingers or a wide-toothed comb trying to minimize breakage in the hair.

I'll admit, I've never had a horse with a gorgeous long mane because the style in sporthorse disciplines has always been pulled short unless you have a breed with traditionally long manes, but *I* have long hair that I take very careful care of. The biggest things I do is keep it up 95% of the time and never ever brush it, just detangle with my fingers, which doesn't take too long because the braids keep it from getting tangled for the most part.
Thanks! yes i know a friesian whose mane is over 4 feet long and they keep it on a running french braid. I braided it a few days ago in seperate french braids but we've done the running braid but the unevenness does't help much. xD

Sarrisina


Sarrisina

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:24 am


princess_kaitlyn
Okay, here are a few suggestions. Because I don't know your mare, not all of these may be applicable to her situation.

-Color-

-If I had to guess, I would say that her mane has that 'burnt orange' color because it is bleached from the sun. Keeping her in during the day will help to preserve the color of her coat, mane and tail. I do not like color enhancing supplements and I've never tried darkening shampoos(but I would guess that dyes would come off on your pads). If it is not a result of sun bleaching, then it might be a color gene dilution that is causing this. I'm not really familiar with Freisans, so I can't comment on common problems like this.

-Length-

-First you have to figure out why her hair is so short. Is it just not growing? (If so she might have a condition where she has sparse hair growth and you would have to discuss specific supplements with your vet) Or is she rubbing it? (If it isn't dirty, and she doesn't have ticks/lice and she is rubbing she might be irritated by products that you use on her mane or have a skin allergy(but then they usually rub hair off other areas as well)) Or is another horse chewing her mane? (There are some products to discourage chewing, but they are AWFUL!!!)

-My general suggestion works really well, but you have to have the time to tend to her mane every day(at the least every other day). You braid her mane, but you have to re-do it often and let it rest for a day here and there. Braiding protects the hairs from rubbing and helps it to grow. But continued tight pulling and tangles around rubber bands can pull hair out as well. So you have to use your own judgement as you do it. When you braid the tail and use a tail bag, that works excellently.

-As far as supplements to encourage hair growth, I have used several.(Though not always for that specific goal, but supplements that do that as well) Farrier's Formula or Horse Shoers Secret are good for hair growth as well as healthy hooves. There is one supplement I can't really remember the whole name. It is something like MVP and is sold in Horse Health USA. It is AMAZING. lol Funny story. The first time I got it, I mixed up the amount and was 'overdosing' my horses(it's not harmful with something like that over the few days of my mixup, no worries). It was spring and they were all still kind of hairy from winter. They shed their winter coats in like three days and had this beautiful shiny coat. I was like 'Wow...' And then noticed my mistake. But it does work really well when used properly.

I hope something in here helps!
Thanks for you tips!! Well, only the very tips of her mane about on 1inch or 2 are organge/red the rest is black. We thinkg that in her previous home another horse was chewing on her mane, it almost looks layered. There is something called MTG for manes, tails and coats. and i've heard it works for groth, I do have some. Thanks for the tips!!!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:24 pm


MTG is supposed to work wonders for growing manes and tails. Although I've never used it myself so I can't say for sure. I want to try it on my Cream's mane. I also heard that half and half Absorbine liniment and vinegar works. I use Mane and Tail shampoo and conditioner which works well for keeping the hair hydrated. You can also use baby oil, Show Sheen, or leave-in conditioner to help keep dirt off. Keep the split ends trimmed, too.

As for color, there's this supplement that seems really popular. It has good reviews at least.

http://www.smartpakequine.com/productclass.aspx?productClassid=62

A cup of roasted soybeans a day makes their coats super shiny. My horses love them. I don't know if they'll enhance the color, though.

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Sarrisina

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:08 pm


`Forgotten Ragdoll
MTG is supposed to work wonders for growing manes and tails. Although I've never used it myself so I can't say for sure. I want to try it on my Cream's mane. I also heard that half and half Absorbine liniment and vinegar works. I use Mane and Tail shampoo and conditioner which works well for keeping the hair hydrated. You can also use baby oil, Show Sheen, or leave-in conditioner to help keep dirt off. Keep the split ends trimmed, too.

As for color, there's this supplement that seems really popular. It has good reviews at least.

http://www.smartpakequine.com/productclass.aspx?productClassid=62

A cup of roasted soybeans a day makes their coats super shiny. My horses love them. I don't know if they'll enhance the color, though.
Thanks for the tips! smile
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:59 pm


There are 2 kinds of black horses, first is "jet black" or "non-fading black". These horses don't bleech in the summer and have that blueish black sheen. Then there are fading blacks whose manes bleech out just like this, along with their bodies in the summer (though their bodies not so dramatically usually). So unless you're really hating the red tips and want to dye them, there's nothing you can do about it. I think they can look quite flashy personally when the mane is long and sleek, it looks firey. 3nodding

As for length, Aria gave some great advice. On top of that, if youre looking for a product, I had some great results with an appy I rode who was nearly maneless with MTG. Put it on twice a week, and in a month I had enough mane to braid and band, and it grew in about 3 times as thick (though thats not saying much haha). But braiding and keeping it detangled without brushing it often is the way to go. Keep it clean, conditioned, and detangled.

Brat_and_a_half


AriaStarSong

PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:04 am


along the lines of what Brat said, most of the friesians I've known have been the "fading" black variety. A friend of mine had a young mare that was going through the kuring process, and they had to keep her inside during the day all summer and only turn her out at night so she wouldn't bleach at all in the sun.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure if I've ever actually met a Jet Black horse...
PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:20 am


I know that I haven't.
Once I start showing my young TB I think I might get him a sun sheet to help him not bleach so much.
He is what I would call a dark bay.
But he really looks black if he is kept in.

Pathological Kisser


Sarrisina

PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:24 pm


Brat_and_a_half
There are 2 kinds of black horses, first is "jet black" or "non-fading black". These horses don't bleech in the summer and have that blueish black sheen. Then there are fading blacks whose manes bleech out just like this, along with their bodies in the summer (though their bodies not so dramatically usually). So unless you're really hating the red tips and want to dye them, there's nothing you can do about it. I think they can look quite flashy personally when the mane is long and sleek, it looks firey. 3nodding

As for length, Aria gave some great advice. On top of that, if youre looking for a product, I had some great results with an appy I rode who was nearly maneless with MTG. Put it on twice a week, and in a month I had enough mane to braid and band, and it grew in about 3 times as thick (though thats not saying much haha). But braiding and keeping it detangled without brushing it often is the way to go. Keep it clean, conditioned, and detangled.
I actually don't know how I would describe hoe Jasmine is. She isn't jet black but doesn't really bleach. And those red tips on her mane star year round, they actually get brighter in the winter. Weird hu? I do have some MTG so I'll definatly try it when the weather gets a little better. Thanks for the tips you all! biggrin
PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:05 am


The easiest way to tell if the horse is just very dark bay or black is to look at it in the winter. If around its muzzle, flank, buttocks, or elbow are a lighter color, the horse is a bay (seal brown, the darkest of the bays). A black wont have any light points.
I rarely see jet blacks too, but a friend of mine has one, a morgan x QH mare who is turned out without a blanket year round and maintains her deep black color. She also has a draft cross gelding who is a fading black, and by august their coats are obviously different.

Brat_and_a_half


Sarrisina

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:59 pm


Brat_and_a_half
The easiest way to tell if the horse is just very dark bay or black is to look at it in the winter. If around its muzzle, flank, buttocks, or elbow are a lighter color, the horse is a bay (seal brown, the darkest of the bays). A black wont have any light points.
I rarely see jet blacks too, but a friend of mine has one, a morgan x QH mare who is turned out without a blanket year round and maintains her deep black color. She also has a draft cross gelding who is a fading black, and by august their coats are obviously different.
ahh, nice hint. Jasmine is definatly black. wink
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