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Morality of hexing and cursing

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Loona Wynd
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:04 am


To the one that I serve

Are there times when it it morally right to use a hex or a curse? why or why not
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:03 pm


When someone is harming you or your family or your land or what have you in an especially immoral way, then hell yes Curse them to the Void I say!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:35 pm


No. I think it's a cop-out to say it's "moral" just to give yourself that out from having to deal with the fact that one has committed immoral or amoral behaviour. That doesn't mean you shouldn't do it under any circumstances, just that sometimes it's necessary to do things that aren't moral. But then we get to the point of defining morality and so on.

I think of curses like punching someone in the face. It's not nice, and you don't do it unless you have to, and you might be arrested for assault, but damnit, sometimes people really need to be punched inna face.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:46 pm


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When someone is harming you or your family or your land or what have you in an especially immoral way, then hell yes Curse them to the Void I say!
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I agree. The more harm done to me the more harm I'm going to do to you.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:54 pm


Sanguina Cruenta
No. I think it's a cop-out to say it's "moral" just to give yourself that out from having to deal with the fact that one has committed immoral or amoral behaviour. That doesn't mean you shouldn't do it under any circumstances, just that sometimes it's necessary to do things that aren't moral. But then we get to the point of defining morality and so on.

I think of curses like punching someone in the face. It's not nice, and you don't do it unless you have to, and you might be arrested for assault, but damnit, sometimes people really need to be punched inna face.
To the one that I serve

My moral standards dictate that I protect me and my loved ones. I'll do what is nessicaryu. In that regards to me it would be a moral thing.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:00 pm


Loona Wynd
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No. I think it's a cop-out to say it's "moral" just to give yourself that out from having to deal with the fact that one has committed immoral or amoral behaviour. That doesn't mean you shouldn't do it under any circumstances, just that sometimes it's necessary to do things that aren't moral. But then we get to the point of defining morality and so on.

I think of curses like punching someone in the face. It's not nice, and you don't do it unless you have to, and you might be arrested for assault, but damnit, sometimes people really need to be punched inna face.
To the one that I serve

My moral standards dictate that I protect me and my loved ones. I'll do what is nessicaryu. In that regards to me it would be a moral thing.
I will give my all


Me too, but that doesn't make the curse itself a moral act. Any more than a punch in the face is a moral act, even though in this situation it is the right thing to do. Do you see what I mean?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:02 pm


I see what you mean San-chan.
The idea of it being moral isn't really linked to the idea of it being appropriate to a given situation.
While I would hope I would never want to hurt anyone if my family, home or anything else close to my heart was put in danger I'd do what I could.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:43 pm


I don't think the morality of an act changes just because the situation does (at least I can't think of a situation where it would)
Say in self defence you kill someone who is trying to kill you. Is what you did moral because you did it to defend yourself? I would say no. Was it necessary to act immorally in this case? I would say yes.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:01 pm


I wouldn't say it is moral to curse or hex someone but if I felt like I had no other option I would do it without hesitation.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:48 am


Sanguina Cruenta

Me too, but that doesn't make the curse itself a moral act. Any more than a punch in the face is a moral act, even though in this situation it is the right thing to do. Do you see what I mean?
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Kinda. I mean as a martial artists I am trained to avoid conflict. I am trained to avoid using my skills unless absolutely necessary. For me hexes and curses are the same thing. I wouldn't have a problem with using them if I felt I needed to.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:02 pm


Cursing, in my opinion, is a healthy way to vent (depending of course on your methodologies). I am skeptical of what it accomplishes beyond that, however.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:49 pm


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Cursing, in my opinion, is a healthy way to vent (depending of course on your methodologies). I am skeptical of what it accomplishes beyond that, however.


So you think it's just emotional ranting? Call a spade a spade. A curse is a curse, a rant is a rant. A curse hurts someone, and is intended to hurt someone. Might be healthy for the individual casting, but then again, might not.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:46 pm


To the one that I serve

It seems to me that even if a hex or curse is done in the heat of the moment (and some are) they are still done to harm people.

As for the being healthy I can see it as being a healthy way to deal with difficult emotions. Though I dont think it should be used in that way.
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