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 Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:00 pm
Virginity has much significance to Christian people, signifies purity. I know of them for sure. Idk if its otherwise for any other religion out there. Since it's the largest world-wide I used it as an example.
I know this is rather personal, but since the civilization everyday turns more liberal I'll ask directly. Are you a virgin? If not, when did you stop being one? If you feel like expressing yourself, tell us how! =D Oh, and what do you consider "virgin" to be? I've heard some people state virginity can only be lost through male/female penetration.
What is your point of view on the subject? 
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:12 pm
First I want to say that I think it's stupid to say that you only loose your virginity if you have p***s-into-v****a-sex. Like it's better than any other kind of sex. I see it like this: If you have sex, you're not a virgin anymore
but I do find the term and idea virginity problematic.
Second
I'm a virgin.
I don't use the word often. I say I've never had sex, and doesn't plan on having it either.
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:48 am
As Miku said, I don't view virginity as being defined only by heterosexual sex. I've never even heard anyone claim that before.
I also agree with Miku's assessment that the term is problematic. For the most part, it's a fictional concept that we invented in terms of its significance. Most people probably wouldn't be able to guess who is a virgin and who isn't accurately.
At any rate, yes, I am a virgin. You'll likely find a higher percentage of virgins among asexuals, but not all asexuals are virgins. What I mean to say is that asexuality and virginity aren't inherently connected. In fact, it more often seems to be those who are sexual who find virginity to be of importance, which I suppose makes some sense since you'd have to find sex meaningful in order to think of a lack of sex as also being significant.
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:38 am
Ditto to what Miku and Centauri said. Now most point that virginity as the word, is not only referred to the sexual matters, also have to do with thoughts,behaviors and customs of each person. The term of physical virginity as important matter is just still alive on medieval societies with high or extreme belief on religion which mostly are kept by men and cultures originated from the Arabians where the modesty is a nature. And if you look on a dictionary, you will read that is something very straight to the women condition, which has been use as a controlling taboo between genders in my own opinion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VirginityStill virgin and have not plans to lose it, though is not that important.
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:10 pm
Ah, that's a good point about how it's often been applied unequally between the genders, Nanieru. Throughout history, many cultures seem to have more harshly restricted females based on virginity and "purity". By contrast, males have often received lesser repercussions for sexual behaviour, and sometimes none at all. In fact, there is still sort of a perspective in North America that boys win points for engaging in sex while girls lose status for "giving it up" or "giving in".
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:53 pm
Like in those cultures that cut of parts of the v****a then stitches it together with just a tiny hole to pee and bleed through
and then on your wedding night your husband is to tear up those stitches
x___x
Terrible!
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:23 am
FGM aside, I believe any kind of physical contact that is sexually stimulating can be considered as "having sex" b/c to some extent it does make a sexually oriented contact.
I don't have an opinion on masturbation other than I find it distasteful in general but the participation in the activity does not conclusively extradite them from virginity.
But I would not consider the masturbater to be a complete virgin, seeing how they have come into contact with a sexual act.
Theoretically, any kind of penetration, whether it be self-inflicted, hetero, homo, or any other kind of orifice penetration (either desired or undesired) exposes you to a sexual act and therefore the experience can not allow an individual to claim complete innocence of physical sexual experience.
Historically, "Virginity" is a maintenance of a state of being as a "blank slate" which can apply to either food or people. It used to refer to a woman who had never had sexual intercourse (Latin roots), contemporarally, it is an individual who tempers sexual activities--Chasity.
But yes, as an asexual I do not wish nor feel inclined to participate in any activity of sexual gratification and thus am a virgin as well--and rather proud of it mrgreen
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:12 pm
Virginity is a wide, debatable, relative concept.
MikusagiMikusagi I want to say that I think it's stupid to say that you only loose your virginity if you have p***s-into-v****a-sex.
The term "virginity" can be problematic when used in casual conversation. Everyone has adopted a partial definition for the word, which can lead to ambiguity in the communication.
GuardianCentauriVirginity
–noun
1.a person who has never had sexual intercourse.
Sexual intercourse
–noun
genital contact, esp. the insertion of the p***s into the v****a followed by orgasm; coitus; copulation.
If we go by "fictional concept in terms of significance", then everything is a fictional concept in terms of significance. For everything is given significance by someone or something in someplace. And, of course, a large number of things are "invented", first imagined. GuardianCentauri "those who are sexual who find virginity to be of importance"
nanieru
Not only in Medieval societies; but in some sectors of our community, where religion is absolute, Virginity is of utmost importance and is also used for controlling masses.
Some dictionaries have relatively wide definitions for the term, though it still focuses on the female. nanieru "...which has been use as a controlling taboo between genders in my own opinion." chiaroscuro13 Theoretically, any kind of penetration, whether it be self-inflicted, hetero, homo, or any other kind of orifice penetration (either desired or undesired) exposes you to a sexual act and therefore the experience can not allow an individual to claim complete innocence of physical sexual experience.
Historically, "Virginity" is a maintenance of a state of being as a "blank slate" which can apply to either food or people. It used to refer to a woman who had never had sexual intercourse (Latin roots), contemporarally, it is an individual who tempers sexual activities--Chasity.
But yes, as an asexual I do not wish nor feel inclined to participate in any activity of sexual gratification and thus am a virgin as well--and rather proud of it mrgreen
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:42 am
Yeah sorry if it's a harsh word, my knowledge in English is a bit limited.
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:16 pm
Tifey_Lewis Virginity
–noun
1.a person who has never had sexual intercourse.
Sexual intercourse
–noun
genital contact, esp. the insertion of the p***s into the v****a followed by orgasm; coitus; copulation.
If we go by "fictional concept in terms of significance", then everything is a fictional concept in terms of significance. For everything is given significance by someone or something in someplace. And, of course, a large number of things are "invented", first imagined.GuardianCentauri "those who are sexual who find virginity to be of importance"
True, but some terms are more vague, fictional, and/or involving more shades of grey while others have pretty much undeniable significance. For instance, you can't really deny the existence of gravity, but where virginity ends and whether it actually has any physical or spiritual meaning is debatable.
Besides, just because a concept is nearly universal or partially universal doesn't mean it holds any real significance beyond the imagination of the human mind. People used to believe the earth was flat, but that belief didn't make it true.
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