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 Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:01 pm
To the one that I serve What do you define as traditional witchcraft? I will give my all
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:17 pm
Folk magic. Solitary practise or family practise. Neither ceremonial, nor inspired by modern witchcrafts such as 1792 (or whatever), Feri, Dianic or Wicca. Primarily, of course, passed down in actual traditions within families or extremely trusted others, as in the strega craft, but otherwise hearkening to those traditions and practises.
Drawing primarily from actual historical witchcraft but also with personal touches. Non-ritualised, largely non-religious (although individuals might create religions within that spirituality, it itself is not a religion or a religious practice).
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Sanguina Cruenta Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:53 pm
I agree with San-chan.
My practice mainly involved the non-ritualised, non-religious bit but I was under the impression that traditional craft had to be passed down and taught. Hence, the lack of book learning you can do on it.
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:55 pm
Yeah, that would be sort of the proper inference with the word "traditional"... but I can see how it could also refer to "historical witchcraft", as in "traditionally, witches did this". You know?
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Sanguina Cruenta Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:06 pm
Yea I know just what you mean. I'd love to study it but I can't practically do it now
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:25 am
To the one that I serve What do you consider folk magic to be? Sanguina Cruenta Solitary practise or family practise. Family as in hereditary? Sanguina Cruenta Neither ceremonial, nor inspired by modern witchcrafts such as 1792 (or whatever), Feri, Dianic or Wicca. Primarily, of course, passed down in actual traditions within families or extremely trusted others, as in the strega craft, but otherwise hearkening to those traditions and practises. So what would you describe as non ENP witchcraft traditions? Sanguina Cruenta Drawing primarily from actual historical witchcraft but also with personal touches. Non-ritualised, largely non-religious (although individuals might create religions within that spirituality, it itself is not a religion or a religious practice). Do you think a specific culture is involved? I will give my all
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:34 am
To the one that I serve I define traditional witchcraft as witchcraft that deals with folklore and folk traditions. I do not believe it needs to be entirely pre-wiccan. I believe that there are paths that can be called traditional witchcraft that do not represent pre-wiccan witchcraft. I will give my all
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:54 am
In terms of the definitions here it sounds like I practice traditional craft haha! Though I never thought of it like that before.
I also think traditional craft can come from a couple of cultures. Mainly Britain and (perhaps) Africa?
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Sanguina Cruenta Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:12 am
Loona Wynd What do you consider folk magic to be? Magic of the folk. As in, totally non-ceremonial (ceremonialism is upper-class, literate and learned). Unstructured. Low magic, magic of the land. Of folk traditions, or inspired by such. Could be. Family as in family. Passed down. Depends on who one thinks of as "family".... but let's face it, it's usually a blood relative thing. Quote: So what would you describe as non ENP witchcraft traditions? Traditions, by definition, are not eclectic. I'm.... sort of confused as to the relevance? Quote: Do you think a specific culture is involved? Several. Trad craft is tied to one's own culture (here's that "folk" thing again), provided, of course, one's own culture is Western European or descended thereof. Depending on how one is defining "witchcraft", of course.
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:51 pm
doistu I agree with San-chan. My practice mainly involved the non-ritualised, non-religious bit but I was under the impression that traditional craft had to be passed down and taught. Hence, the lack of book learning you can do on it. To the one that I serve I dunno. I think there are books on it out there. I will give my all
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:55 pm
doistu In terms of the definitions here it sounds like I practice traditional craft haha! Though I never thought of it like that before. I also think traditional craft can come from a couple of cultures. Mainly Britain and (perhaps) Africa? To the one that I serve Why Africa? I will give my all
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:59 pm
To the one that I serve Sanguina Cruenta Magic of the folk. As in, totally non-ceremonial (ceremonialism is upper-class, literate and learned). Unstructured. Low magic, magic of the land. Of folk traditions, or inspired by such. I'd say folk magic is also learned. Sanguina Cruenta Could be. Family as in family. Passed down. Depends on who one thinks of as "family".... but let's face it, it's usually a blood relative thing. I think adoption and fostering could also play a role. Sanguina Cruenta Traditions, by definition, are not eclectic. I'm.... sort of confused as to the relevance? Ok. What I mean was witchcraft traditions that don't fit the generic witchcraft mold you see in most books. Sanguina Cruenta Several. Trad craft is tied to one's own culture (here's that "folk" thing again), provided, of course, one's own culture is Western European or descended thereof. Depending on how one is defining "witchcraft", of course. I'd say Anglo-saxon inspired witchcraft would be traditional. I will give my all
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Cunning Witch Angus Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:03 pm
I define traditional witchcraft as a practice that pulls from folkloric and historical references to witchcraft. As a friend of mine says: Most traditionalist I know don't read "how to" books but dive into folklore and historical books like The Golden Bough or The White Goddess for inspiration.
Divination, finding things, curses, healings, spirit travel, speaking with beasts. These kinds of things go into what is called traditional witchcraft, I feel. It also seems that many traditional witches find these things in common in their practices.
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:07 pm
To the one that I serve I think reading grimories that have been made public can also play a part in traditional witchcraft. I will give my all
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Cunning Witch Angus Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:14 pm
I think that depends on the grimoire, really. If it is something like The Key of Solomon then you have a more Renaissance/Ceremonial approach rather than a witchcraft approach.
If it is something along the lines of The Long Lost Friend then yes, I would consider that more witchcraft.
Mostly, though when I think "grimoire" I think high magic.
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