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FireFoxNinetails
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Friendly Phantom

PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:48 pm


FireFoxNinetails
Here is stuff that all of the shops agree on
*The event will not be in competition form - we will do badge collecting instead


Random stuff vaguely agreed on?
*Modeling badges after HG/SS logos with different colors
-TRHQ - red
-Extrasensory - Purple?

*Shop owners/staff will be able to participate in auctions/raffles of other shops (Need Hotaru and Savvy's opinion on this?)

Stuff we are trying to sort out
*Collecting badges as a set
Idea 1: People collect as many badges from all 4 shops as possible. Badges will only count in sets of all 4 types. There will be prizes for the top collectors (Top 5 or something maybe?) and a raffle where every badge you earn = one ticket (for the rest of the prizepool). Event may need to be longer with more events so that enough badges for everyone can be distributed
Additional idea: Make a website to make badge trading easier

Idea 2: Some badges can have an odd mark/glow and will not count as an official badge until they are traded which will make the mark/glow go away and then the badge counts as a normal badge

Idea 3: There is a daily dice roll thing everyone can try for. You could get pseudobadges which, if you get a set by trading, can equal to an official badge that counts for badge collecting.

*A themed sale/raffle/auction
Ideas: Togetherness?
Random ideas from me that weren't too serious because I typed them early in the morning

Other stuff I wanted to discuss:
*How many badges should be given away total? Just a vague number maybe?
*Possible events?


Umm, right. So early planning biggrin
Below this point is a BLOCK OF TEXT that you will probably not remember. So I suggest whipping out a notepad and writing your comments down as you go along

1. Preferred week for the event? And would anyone be adverse to it being a week long? Maybe a week and a half. Idk, most of the more successful events I run last about that long

2. Schedule of events
We have to decide what events are going to be on what day and such and which shop is doing what mini event(s). I figure the event should have several mini events held by different shops on different days with some longer general events (auction/raffle/mini art contest/advertising?)
You can toss up ideas on what you'd like to do for events (get like...a list of 5ish mini events?), we don't need exact dates until around late may or june
Also I'm not sure if we need the advertising. There are already going to be 3 shops and that's plenty of regulars to keep it busy. Maybe we could have some fun bonus (ie: Extrasensory has like 4+ branches of random minipet things) for whoever sticks a "Team _________" banner in their sig for the duration of the event.

3. Thread speed: This is what actually concerns me the most. Threads go at different speeds and people are comfortable with the normal speed of their thread. I really hope the thread speed doesn't scare off anyone or leave anyone behind. Any ideas/comments/opinions about this?

4. Emblems: So, how many emblems should each shop give away in the span of the event? Maybe 50-60? So there are plenty to get but it may be troublesome handing out that many so idk. Oh, every shop owner should make a nifty emblem thing representative of their shop. We should probably impose some sort of size standard to make them semi-uniform. 100x100?

5. The Event System: So I finally worked on fermenting my plan for this event more.
Basically it's a fun competition between our 3 shops to see who is the very best like no one ever was and hopefully it will bring great fun to all of our regulars xd
The first thing everyone will do is declare which shop-team they will pledge allegiance to in a thread I'll stick in this guild or something (Alternate option: every shop can make a thread and keep track of their own minions and I can check those threads periodically to compile a master list to make sure no one is double-crossing sides) No matter what shop you pledge your loyalty to, you will still have the ability to win all the prizes in the event.
The winner of this competition will be determined by the final emblem count (70%), Auction/Raffle scores (10%), and Mixer score (20%)
So first emblems. Through mini events, shops will distribute "emblems" through events like flaffles, trivia, dice rolling, choose your own adventure, idk there are 80+ different ways to do it. Be creative! Just make sure that it's equal opportunity. If it is trivia, it can only be generic trivia that is pokemon themed without any shop-specific info. Also events should be loosely pokemon related. Everyone can earn any shop's emblem.You must give away a set number of emblems by the end of the event. The goal, obviously, is to get your shop-minions to collect the most emblems for your shop.

Then the second determining factor is auction/raffle score. Okay, so here's where calculations get /slightly/ complicated. All in total there will be (x) amount of emblems. 70% of the emblems (marked team emblems) are given out through the mini events. 10% of the total is given out by the auction + raffle and these emblems are called AR (auction/raffle) emblems and I'll make some spiffy image for them. Basically the shop who snags the highest price for an auction will win 1.5 (rounded up!)% of the AR emblems (1.5% (rounded down) goes to the bid-maker and his/her team). 2nd place wins 1% (1% goes to the bid maker), 3rd place wins .5 (rounded up)% (.5% rounded down goes to the bid maker).
Same goes for the number of tickets in a raffle.
These auctions/raffles will run simultaneously throughout the whole event (I may create a separate thread so bids/orders don't get lost) and each shop is responsible for their own auction bids/raffle tickets. Also only 1 auction pokemon and 1 raffle pokemon per shop. It can be whatever you dare to put up there.

Okay so 20% of the emblems are friendship emblems (yes lame name I know hush) rofl
This is centered off Extrasensory's mixer events which help promote bonding/mixing between newbies and oldbies. It's gotten a pretty positive reception. Basically, if you have had a great minimum of 5 post conversation with another person, you can post in a thread and "vouch" for them by saying something like "HEY I HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH ________!" This vouching will give that person who is vouched for a "ticket." You cannot vouch for the same person twice but you can vouch for an unlimited amount of people. The person who gets the most tickets gets 10% of the Friendship emblems. 2nd most gets 5%. 3rd most gets 3%. 2% will be given to whoever the random generator generates. I may throw in a pokemon or two for this because this is one of the main things the event is centered around: meeting other pogey shop peeps and chilling out in a friendly environment
It's great fun. But...I would totally like help managing the tickets, for the sake of my mental sanity (not that I have much left). We could do shifts or something? depending on the day? I'm not sure how active/popular this will be >>;

Friendship/AR emblems are totaled at the very end of the event. So anyways at the end of the event, the winner can walk away with...some kind of trophy? I can make a nifty trophy sprite or something that the winner can put on the front page of his/her shop and have bragging rights or something.

Okay I think that's the end of my idea dump. I probably am missing stuff and things probably need clarification so post away!

Also once you join the guild I'll promote you to mod position so you can invite related staff to the guild :3
PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:54 pm


Oh, and the most important question of all: COOL EVENT NAME?

FireFoxNinetails
Captain

Friendly Phantom


FireFoxNinetails
Captain

Friendly Phantom

PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:09 pm


OH WAIT THE PRIZE POOL YEAH
So I'm asking that each shop toss in a minimum of 2 pokemon to it. They can be of any rarity or whatever. I think Extrasensory may toss in about 4-6 ish pokemon. However many pokemon are in here determines how many winners there will be for having the most emblems. Most emblems = first choice + etc.

Also this is strictly only for the shop emblems (not the AR or friendship ones) since AR + friendship have their own prizes. Winners of the AR/friendship ones can still be a winner for the prize pool though as long as they earned a lot of shop emblems.

The events will be completed in this order: AR -> Shop Emblems -> Friendship emblems
You can't win a pokemon from the friendship mixer event like thing if you've already won a pokemon from an A/R AND you got a pick in the prizepool from the shop emblems. So you can only win a max of 2 pokemon from the event. Also, if for some reason the prize pool winner is left to choose a pokeboy when his/her badges are full and there are no other choices left, I can toss in an extra pokemon or something although I don't think that'll happen.

You cannot give emblems away because I'm too lazy to do some sort of exchange thread. And I don't want any begging for other people's emblems.

Phew lots of typing. I hope this isn't too complicated. I think it just sounds slightly harder than it is because I tend to ramble @__@

This kinda seems daunting but with the right planning and stuff I think this event can go very well :3
PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:06 pm


Oh rite
If you guys want faster communication, I have all sorts of messengers
Yahoo: Explodingchinesedonuts
MSN...I don't go on much unless it is your only messenger xD;;
Aim: xlunachanx
G-talk: urfaceisametagross

I go on yahoo the most on invisible while my e-mail is up, if you poke me around 4-5 PM or 8 PM-2 AM EST there is an 80% chance I am online but it may take me a few minutes-hours to notice if I am busy with something
AIM...I log onto sporadically, most often when I need to poke someone or someone pokes me
MSN...I almost forget my password sometimes xD;;
I can get any other messenger that is convenient for you if you want.

And I'm not sure if Pokemon Haven is joining or not. We'll see >w>;;

FireFoxNinetails
Captain

Friendly Phantom


Dante-Sayre
Crew

Seeker

PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:50 am


I hope it's okay to reply in here. If not feel free to remove this. XD

Gonna touch on some of your numbered points.

1. I honestly have no preference on the exact dates of the event. I know you mentioned July as a possible month. July would work perfectly for me. My only current commitments are the TRHQ birthday event in late April/early May and a convention in early September.

2. TRHQ can contribute whatever types of events you guys would like. I'd be happy to run something along the lines of the Jirachi's Wish game that ran during TRHQ's last event. I'll have a similar game going at the upcoming birthday event. It's basically a game of chance where I post randomly in the thread multiple times during the course of the event with a Pokemon NPC and give people a chance at winning multiple prizes. On the topic of mini pet prizes for advertising, I can also offer up TRHQ Pokewalkers.

5. To make sure I'm clear on this, the goal is for people to collect emblems from other shops for their shop, right? If this is the case we'll have to be very very careful about explaining the idea well. I guarantee there's going to be confusion and people assuming they're supposed to be gathering their own shop's emblems.

Overall the event sounds interesting. =3 My best advice is that we just try to keep it as easy to understand as we can. There's some mildly complicated ideas coming up here and I guarantee a lot of Gaians are going to be too lazy to figure out the rules.

Also, if we plan on any themed sales/raffles/whatever and it would help to have TRHQ offering a certain Pokemon that hasn't been made yet I can make it with advanced enough notice. Oh, and if it's possible for me to include some special Rocket IDs in the event instead of just Pokemon that'd be snazzy. I've been playing with the idea of offering some special cosplays at events. ^^
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:57 am


In addition to my thoughts above I'd also like to toss out some alternative ideas I've been mulling over.

I have to admit that, while I'm very excited at the prospect of a joint event like this, I'm a little bit hesitant at turning it into a competitive event between shops. I know you've been putting a lot of work into planning this as a competition and I don't want to step on any toes, so please don't take this as a complaint. It's just a nagging concern of mine.

I can't help but feel a little uncertain about pitting our customers against each other and focusing on shop favoritism instead of cooperation. I'm worried about the direction a competition like this could turn with groups siding with a particular shop over other shops. Ideally it'd be nice to reward people for branching out and mingling with other shops rather than encouraging them to focus on "their" shop. I'd kind of hate to see an "up with X shop, down with X shop" mentality germinate from this. At the end of the day I'm not sure proclaiming the "best" shop serves to do much more than make the other shop owners (and members) feel bad. ^^;;

So yeah. Those are my worries with the competitive plan. They may be unfounded but I felt like I should bring it up. I still really love the idea of gathering unique emblems from each shop. I'm wondering if maybe the emblems could be used as points to win things in general rather than as points for a particular shop? Like.. whether you have an emblem from this shop or that shop, it counts as a point. Maybe people compete in various games and events during the course of the event to earn emblems from all the shops, then at the end of the event the people with the most total emblems get to pick special Pokemon from a pot with Pokemon from all shops? And people with the most emblems from a particular shop get a prize from that shop. This would be in addition to auctions and raffles and sales and such, of course. It wouldn't be the only way of obtaining event Pokemon. It also might be cool to call them badges rather than emblems. Like gym badges. =3

IN COMPLETELY UNRELATED NEWS I have an idea that this event could be the interesting start of. Do you (and the other shops involved) have any interest in starting some sort of Pokemon B/C Shop alliance? The kind of alliance airlines make, just with pet drawings instead of frequent flier miles. XD I thought it might be cool if we start an alliance of active Pokemon shops that meet certain guidelines. Shops invited to the alliance would have to meet certain criteria in terms of pet quality, shop activity, shop age, etc. There's a lot of very impressive Pokemon B/C shops that only last a couple months, for example.. so a shop would have to demonstrate that it's around to stay. Members of the alliance would get a special badge or banner to display on their shop and all members would link to other members. We could then organize reoccurring joint events like this with alliance members. =3

Dante-Sayre
Crew

Seeker


FireFoxNinetails
Captain

Friendly Phantom

PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:12 pm


Alliance seems fun xDD

Yeah I've been slightly iffy about the competition but from what I observed in Soq's pokemon event, everyone got split into Rocket/Magma/Aqua/Galactic without any unfriendly team bashing. My high school also has a "prep rally" every quarter where people are divided between different class colors and that turned out slightly more problematic (trying to paint other students with their class colors, accusing the senior class of hacking the system because they have won 90% of the prep rallys, etc) but it was still cool to see people dress in their class colors and everyone got a good lol out of seeing me go to school in a white wig. But the prep rally definitely does not promote school unity as my school claims.
It could be more of a problem because a whole B/C shop can be slightly more personal to a person. Perhaps in the mixer event more points can be awarded to those who talk to people outside of their shop team?

I think I failed to make this clear from my gigantic post and I apologize, I really shouldn't type stuff while writing papers at around 12 AM in the morning. The system is pretty much what you have said. Every emblem counts as a point, you can earn emblems from any shop and they are all worth the same, and the prizepool is one giant prizepool from all of the shops. The team you are in really doesn't matter much except for displaying team spirit and such. I didn't want anyone to have to chose sides because they like one shop's prize more than another shop's.
When the thread is made we should probably make sure it is clear by asking some uninvolved parties to read it to see if they understand well. I'll also probably be on a lot in July on days that I am not going to be volunteering at the hospital and I'll make sure I'm on the first day so if there is possible confusion it will be sorted out.

Lol okay let's just call them badges then...-too lazy to edit stuff though- rofl

1. Okay, I'll wait for other opinions of the date. It is really early to plan but I want to know if there are possibly some preferred dates I can schedule my hospital volunteering days around

5. Um, I explained above. The goal is to collect any and all emblems. So yeah. I am going to have to make sure this is explained very clearly in bold font xD;;

Ahaha lazy gaians. Well, I tend to have a lot of faith in B/Cers and others explaining.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:45 pm


I definitely agree that competitiveness can add a lot of enthusiasm to an event, and that worked well in the Soq event. The difference is just that that was all contained in one shop. I doubt anybody would really get too worked up over someone preferring Team Magma over Team Rocket. Asking people entering an event to pick sides in a group of shops, essentially announcing they like one shop more than the others, seems like it might be a recipe for a different kind of competitiveness and has potential for hurt feelings.

That's just my concern, though. I'm definitely not the only person involved in this. Everybody should weigh in. =3 If it's what everyone prefers then I'm still game. Whatever the final design, I'm seriously stoked about this event.

Dante-Sayre
Crew

Seeker


Tinnunculus

Spacey Spark

PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:11 pm


I'm going to weigh in here - the more I think about it, the more I feel uncomfortable with the idea of inter-shop competition. Intra-shop competition is a different thing; you're pledging allegiance to temporary groups that didn't exist before. But with inter-shop competition you're pledging to a shop - a group that was there before and will be after.

I know there are people who are regulars at multiple shops - it'd put them in a tricky position to have to choose Team Extrasensory, Team TRHQ, or Team Pokeboys. And even though consciously they may say 'I know it's just an event' subconsciously, it'll probably have subtle effects even if massive drama fails to erupt.

I dunno. Just thinking about it, as a participant, I wouldn't be too thrilled about it. neutral

I'd much prefer to see events promoting interaction between shops. Say, going over to visit Pokeboys if you usually hang out at Extra, etc. I think that'd be a much more constructive approach and promote a more positive feeling.

I'm totally up for the alliance thing. This could be its first event!
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:31 pm


Oh, so checking my schedule, I realized we shouldn't have the event around the week of July 17-19th since I will be dragged down by potential jet lag and birthday celebrations >w>;;

I tend to think positively and hope that most pokemon B/C goers are pretty relaxed about things but yeah there is train wreck potential there.

I actually wouldn't mind getting rid of the competition thing and changing it to "gather badges to become a pkmn mastah for cool prizes"
If that's the case, the auction/raffle badges should be scrapped but having normal auction/raffles are still cool (btw, should there be a rule like you can only hold the HB for one auction?). The mixer event should still be kept and it can also award badges, but since there doesn't need to be a real total we can award like 1 badge per every 10 people talked with or something?

FireFoxNinetails
Captain

Friendly Phantom


FireFoxNinetails
Captain

Friendly Phantom

PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:39 pm


Oh, actually, there should probably be a complimentary Auction/Raffle badge, just one though so it doesn't really make too much of a difference but it'll be rare xD
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:02 pm


I'm definitely 100% on board with badge collecting. I've already told you, but I love that idea. XD

One question just popped into my mind. Would participating shop owners/staff be able to bid in auctions for other shops or enter any raffles not involving their own shop's pets? Normally I frown upon shop colorists participating in events in their own shop.. when they could just make pets for themselves.. but that doesn't really apply in a case like this where pets being offered are from other shops as well. But at the same time I could see people getting irked about it..

I'm honestly not sure how I feel about it. On the one hand I can see Fire winning a Pokeboys auction, or me winning an Extrasensory raffle in an event we helped organize being seen as unfair.. but on the other hand.. it could be considered unfair that we not be allowed to try for pets from other shops we're not normally involved with.

Dante-Sayre
Crew

Seeker


Tinnunculus

Spacey Spark

PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:04 pm


Just chiming in with a quick design suggestion - how about modeling the badges after those in the games and/or the HG/SS logos? Stylistically - so they look more like real badges.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:17 pm


I think it's fine if it's an auction/raffle from another shop as I am staff and I participate in Extrasensory flatsales from time to time (if it's a flaffle type). I think staff should be able to participate on completely luck-based events or auctions/raffles of a different shop

@Tinn: I don't have enough skillz for that rofl
Actually I have no clue what Extrasensory's badge is going to look like at all

FireFoxNinetails
Captain

Friendly Phantom


Tinnunculus

Spacey Spark

PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:22 pm


How about modeling it after the animation for the Extrasensory attack? I could see about whipping a mock-up up if you like.
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