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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:26 pm
I've heard this arguement in the Sports Forum ... and I want to know what you guys think ... muay thai or tae kwon do ... who wins ...
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:39 pm
Depends on the fighter in all honesty. Both techniques work both in sports and real like. Taekwon Do tends to center around using very heavy hits whereas Muay Thai uses quick savagery. It boils down to the person using the style rather than the style itself.
But for my 2 cents. If the person trained in Teakwon Do does so much as land one powerful hit on his opponent, then it's over. Muay Thai tends to use faster small hits.
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:25 pm
Going with muay thai ... because of that clinch ... if you are ever in a thai clinch with a good muay thai fighter ... that thing is death ...
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:23 pm
I agree that it really boils down to who you are and how good of a fighter you are regardless of what style you study. But in my experience, I have to say I think Muai Tai kick boxers are probably the most dangerous martial artists I've seen. So I would have to give them the edge.
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 7:34 pm
I would have to say Muay Thai I have studied a bit of Tae Kwon Do and I doubt it could stand up to the sheer savage attacks of Muay Thai. While they do indeed have heavy attacks it also depends upon the fighter.
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 7:52 pm
Idk i have seen traditional tkd black belt take out muay thai fighters ..but there missing elements in both style..but if was a weapon of choice i would do muay thai tho.
although tony ja knows tkd and muay thai boran with kun tao ..with jacky chan stun skills so..
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 1:54 pm
Depends on the figher, jep.
I have very long legs - if i would spar with an MMA fighter - i only have to bring up my leg and kick him in the stomach to push him away and repeat that over and over again. he cant catch my leg because its too fast. then he can do NOTHING, because mma fighters arent as good with kicks as taekwondokas.
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 1:58 pm
TheAngelOnAcid Depends on the figher, jep. I have very long legs - if i would spar with an MMA fighter - i only have to bring up my leg and kick him in the stomach to push him away and repeat that over and over again. he cant catch my leg because its too fast. then he can do NOTHING, because mma fighters arent as good with kicks as taekwondokas. Well that's a bold statement ...
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 2:01 pm
TheAngelOnAcid Depends on the figher, jep. I have very long legs - if i would spar with an MMA fighter - i only have to bring up my leg and kick him in the stomach to push him away and repeat that over and over again. he cant catch my leg because its too fast. then he can do NOTHING, because mma fighters arent as good with kicks as taekwondokas. A push kick only goes so far ... and the question didn't ask about an MMA fighter ... the question is a fight between a tae kwon do fighter and a muay thai fighter ...
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 2:36 pm
theotherbakasurvivor TheAngelOnAcid Depends on the figher, jep. I have very long legs - if i would spar with an MMA fighter - i only have to bring up my leg and kick him in the stomach to push him away and repeat that over and over again. he cant catch my leg because its too fast. then he can do NOTHING, because mma fighters arent as good with kicks as taekwondokas. Well that's a bold statement ... That is indeed a bold statement ...
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 2:47 pm
Bold, but relevant. A TKD fighter typically does possess a reach advantage in terms of kicks over a Thai boxer due to the way that they extend. However, this strongly compromises their balance and the speed doesn't always compensate. Situation dependent, I'd give the long fight to the TKD fighter but in close it's a toss-up. Thought I could win in a clinch with a TKD guy once. Found out just how damn flexible those legs of theirs can be when he punted me in the back of the head from in front of me. Likewise, I once had my face rather effectively rearranged by a Thai boxer with a clinch knee. And the ground game for both arts is nearly identical (lots of painful stories to learn that one) so one really can't judge.
Distance striking, TKD all the way. Close in, I'll call it Muay Thai because of the clinch-exclusive techniques.
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 3:53 pm
As every one has said it all depends on the fighter, but, you have all missed one point, TKD is not only power but alot of speed and fast reaction time. and now adays TKD students are being taught things like jiu jitsu and kempo (or is it kendo) so all in all in comes down to the fighter...No martial art is "better" than the other, it all depends on the fighter. though I have to give the advantage to TKD because of range and power. And in a good amount of tkd cases, speed. muay thai is a close ranged martial art while tkd students are taught how to dodge and move quickly in order to keep the range advantage.
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:02 pm
I'm going with muay thai ...because of the clinch work and the hardening ... a lot of muay thai fighter I've seen have negated distance quite easily and once they got in that clinch ... well let's just say it wasn't pretty ... and even if a TKD fighter could keep it at range ... the muay thai fighter could probably absord a lot of the damages he recieves ... and of course give some back ...
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 8:17 am
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 11:37 am
For those obsessed with the hardening issue, you should check that clip out, as neither fighter really appeared to have an issue with it. As I said, the Achilles heel of TKD is the balance problem (though that guy was a poor ITF fighter at best, bouncing around like that!) and that Thai boxer exploited it beautifully. It doesn't change my opinion, however. It has to be remembered (and I think I've reiterated this elsewhere to little effect) that proper TKD is based on a distillation of Karate, Kenpo, and Northern Shaolin techniques and thus a real ITF TKD player will:
A) Not be bouncing around, real TKD fighters have a solid, low stance that utilizes their strong legs. This gives them a distinct advantage is low center of gravity. The drawback is a loss of mobility, see B)
B) Do undergo hardening training comparable to that of the Shaolin. Striking at the shins, forearms, sides, etc. of a real ITF TKD fighter is rather like attacking a steel beam (I think this is where the muay thai fighter can relate!)
C) Are trained to fire most of their kicks for the head and face, as this is the fastest way to terminate a fight. In the video, the TKD practitioner clearly does not aim for the head, perhaps this is an agreed-upon caveat for the fight.
Simply put, fighting a true ITF TKD fighter is akin to fighting a tree, which in retrospect is also what it is like fighting a proper Thai boxer who:
A) Has a higher stance, but is more mobile and (this being one of my favorite parts of that clip) has clearly trained to block and catch round kicks.
B) Also hardens in a time-honored and effective way. If a Thai boxer and a true ITF TKD fighter were to accidentally kick each other in the shin, it would be like two aluminum baseball bats impacting.
C) Target different areas with their strikes which wear down the opponent. As we saw in the video, the end of the fight had nothing to do with a KO or TKO, but rather the TKD fighter there was worn out and sore, unable to continue while the Thai boxer was fresh as a daisy.
My opinion is unchanged from before, long game and precision to the TKD fighter, clinch and close game to the Thai boxer.
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