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 Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:03 am
What are your thoughts on this?
Is it condoned in the Bible?
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:07 pm
Good question. Actually, just recently in my church, we just had to face this same issue, I won't go into details though sweatdrop But nevertheless, I think that it is only God who can take a life; if it is your time to go then it is your time. To back up some of my points, here are a few Scriptures:
1.) Genesis 9:6 - "Whoever sheds man’s blood, by man his blood shall be shed; for in the image of God He made man."
2.) 1 Corinthians 6:19, 20 - "Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s." I think this is my key passage for this argument. While yes this passage is used in the purity argument, I think that one can apply this to the idea that we are no longer our are own, but rather we are God's. Thus it is God that decides whether we live or die, the rest is up to God.
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:33 pm
All I can say is "Thou shalt not kill"
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:34 pm
Friar Thomas All I can say is "Thou shalt not kill" While yes I agree with what you are trying to say, that we shall not kill. Is it killing when one kills themselves? But again to reiterate, I agree with you, all killing is wrong. Again, I think the two verses I posted cover the question I just posed.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:53 pm
something___5324 Is it killing when one kills themselves? suicide is still taking a life without the consent of God so, yes, it is killing and it is wrong.
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:44 am
What if one had no chance to survive? That one would die no matter what, but if not for the mercy killing, would die in extreme agony?
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:25 am
you never know if someone is going to survive or not. it may seem completely impossible for someone to survive, but God is all about the impossible. what if God had planned to preform a miracle in response to your faith, but then you just gave up and killed the person?
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:36 pm
@ Something and Brownie: I agree that Suicide is killing but there is something else that I have to address...something that was put to me this year and something that I've struggled accepting but it was conviction by God..
If a Christian suffers from Depression, an overwhelming depression that they cannot control and they trust in God and they give to God everything but still this depression continues and they feel hopeless and finally in one act of desperation one moment of weakness they kill themselves... does that mean that they won't arrive in heaven?
The answer is no. God forgives his followers, and he forgives those who struggle with sin. As I've said time and time again, Living ones life accepting a sin is so much different that struggling with sin. God forgives our struggles and we will all get our day in God's court and I believe even after our deaths we will be forgiven if we have followed God all our lives.
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:54 am
Thanks guys for your inputs and thoughts about this...
May I ask a harmless what if question?
What if the patient is in deep comatose, brain-dead, only breathing on a tube, and is predicted to live like a vegetable for the rest of the his/her life? The hospital bills are going up, and the family is suffering, emotionally and financially. What could a person do in a situation like this? What can a person say to comfort the family?
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:50 am
friar thomas: i agree with you. suicide is a sin, but i never said that God wouldn't forgive that sin. sorry if there was a miscommunication.
krazed_kon: there is really nothing anyone can do in that situation but to trust God and pray that he would help everyone. it is wrong to take that person's life, but humans can't bring them back. God is a God of miracles, and could choose to bring that person back, or he could take them to release the family's financial burden, or he could provide finances to pay the bills. you never know what he has planned, you just have to be open to his will and intercede on the behalf or those involved.
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:56 pm
krazed_kon Thanks guys for your inputs and thoughts about this...
May I ask a harmless what if question?
What if the patient is in deep comatose, brain-dead, only breathing on a tube, and is predicted to live like a vegetable for the rest of the his/her life? The hospital bills are going up, and the family is suffering, emotionally and financially. What could a person do in a situation like this? What can a person say to comfort the family? At that point they are literally dead and are only being kept "alive" by the machines. I say its up to the family or up to the person whose been assigned to make those decisions
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:11 am
Lolz, this has taken an interesting turn. But nevertheless, to confess :krazed_kon: I was actually in that situation a year ago almost to this day (actually I am still riding off that huge wave though) but nevertheless, here are some things I have learned from these experiences on the topic of suicide:
1.) Yes it is a sin, but there is still God's grace.
2.) Through your actions however, you may cause people to stray away which is no good at all.
Nevertheless, God's grace is still there.
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:33 pm
Ok God commands us to not kill. It's in the Ten Commandments (can't argue with that). Anyway killing is killing in any shape or form. If you commit abortion that is killing since the baby in womb dies. When you kill someone or yourself your, in my opinion, taking God's place. Only God has the right to take a life and when He does that person goes to a better place. God has a plan for everyone if someone dies of a natural cause it's probably part of God's plan for them cause if it wasn't and they had a bigger purpose then He most likely wouldn't let the person die.
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:09 pm
God is the only one with the right to give and take life so I would have to say that mercy killing at the hand of a human is wrong.....but i also feel that sustaining a body that is failing to live is wrong as we'll.....so if a person has a chance to live without suffering for a period of time to willingly let that person die is murder but if like my grandfather their body is deteriorating in front of your eyes and fluids are leaking from their flesh and they can no longer functioning......in that instance life support systems should be removed so they may pass on.
My grandfather had 11 children and they couldn't agree on the decision and he suffered for far to long.... cry
R.I.P. Grandpa
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:12 pm
what do you guys think of killing of murders and rapists?
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