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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:37 am


I for one do. I expect people who are publishing misinformation and who have been disproven to republish them.

Now what about older books and authors? If they were disproven in the time that they were alive, they are held to the same standard. It is crap in my opinion to perpetuate bullshit and lies because of something being "old." Yes it's good to understand why someone thought a certain way and to look into the past to show how far we've come, this is not what I'm arguing against. What I am arguing against is the willful unchanging need to perpetuate the same crap because it's oh so hard to republish a corrected book or to get it peer reviewed before it goes out on book shelves. Can I get an amen?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:48 am


AMEN!

Fair enough a book was published the first time, it was then disproved so it's been put in the archives and is chalked up to history.
But to republish it when it's misinformed should practically be a crime!
It's annoying to people with knowledge and experience because it means newcomers come to them with half baked ideas that need to be got rid of.

Frustrating to say the least.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:41 am


I feel the price of freedom is that we grant those freedoms to those we disagree with.

I would rather have to work to educate people about misinformation than to give the authority to silence them.

I think one of the good examples is that Hutton's opinion on the origin of Wicca has been disputed by Huson's research. Since Hutton has said he did not fully investigate the situation out of respect to some of it's early founders- I feel that all the information available should be presented and a person should develop a well rounded understanding.

I also feel there is a historical value to reproducing earlier works. I own copies of Murray's books, not because I believe they are historical facts, but because they greatly influenced the modern pagan movement.

I understand the concern some of us feel about people being mislead, or taken advantage of. I also feel that there may be an over reaction to the disagreements. If someone claims to be something, how much harm is truly being done? Where do we draw the line between having a civil dispute with a discussion and putting ourselves in a position to try and police and regulate other people's thoughts?

In situations where someone's wellbeing is at stake, I feel there is cause to step in. I think short of that we need to be able to respect someone's ability to form their own opinions.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:17 pm


I think it depends on the book and the author. Disagreeing with the information is one thing but pure misinformation is another. Either way it can be a learning experience and it is nice to see how people evolve and learn.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:09 am


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I think it depends on the book and the author. Disagreeing with the information is one thing but pure misinformation is another. Either way it can be a learning experience and it is nice to see how people evolve and learn.

I do not feel we could establish a method for preventing what you or I might consider "pure misinformation" without impinging on the rights of those who merely disagree.

In the end, I feel this is about a level of control that should not be inflicted on others. While there are limits to our private and public speech, to allow either personal bullying or bureaucratic abuses to silence people who are not harming others is to deny their personal development and assert our will over their own.

Censorship is the weapon of a tyrant- be it by banning others from participation or bullying them into silence.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:52 am



I do not EXPECT it of them, however, I do feel that it is something they SHOULD do. When a newspaper prints an article that is later proven false (or maybe just bias) they print a retraction. When an author of a reference text information that is latter proven wrong then she should 1.) publish a formal apology, and 2.) republish a new book with the appropriate corrections and accurate information.

However, I can name at least three authors that do not do this and I'm sure there are many many more that I have not read. And so I do not "expect" it of them.

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